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Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:05 am
by brian
MMA followed Trump's tweets and Fox News for three months.

Results are pretty much what you would think, but finally puts to death any notion that Trump is using his tweets to distract or that he's somehow playing 3D chess with the media.

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:19 am
by EnochRoot
I mean, I think the sport is boorishly derivative of a time we've long since evolved from as a species, but I guess I'll give it another look?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:47 am
by P.D.X.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, I think the sport is boorishly derivative of a time we've long since evolved from as a species, but I guess I'll give it another look?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Pairs well with avatar.

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:45 pm
by brian
https://twitter.com/pixelatedboat/statu ... 7350710272

1) This is hilarious.

2) So many people actually believed it, there was blowback.

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:47 pm
by mister d
Reproving the whole "there's nothing so ridiculous you'd rule it out with total certainty".

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:55 pm
by Rex
Let me tell you, it took me a while this morning to realize that wasn't real.

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:04 pm
by Rush2112
The only thing that leads one to think it's a joke is the broadcast tower bit. That's just preposterous, the rest? Fully believable.

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:52 pm
by Pruitt
2 years of having to take this idiot seriously, and it still gets worse and worse and worse.

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:26 pm
by blundercrush

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:02 pm
by P.D.X.
Magary's take is goooood.

All of Wolff’s excerpts from Fire & Fury so far (the book was rushed into stores today) read like jayvee fan fiction. They read like a pilot that Steve Bannon himself wrote, pitched to Hollywood, and had rejected 17 times over. They read, in short, like bullshit. And yet…Wolff has audio. He’s got hours upon hours of audio. Not only that, but the book has already caused legitimate upheaval in the administration, opened a permanent rift between President Trump and Bannon, AND it confirms what we have all always known to be true: that the president severely lacks the cognitive ability to do this job, and that he is surrounded at all times by a cadre of enablers, dunces, and outright thieves. As much as I wanna discredit Wolff, he got receipts and, more important, he used them. Wolff got it all. Wolff nailed them.

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:14 pm
by DSafetyGuy
Charlie Pierce says "President Trump has attempted to obstruct justice, among other things."

Link to the NYT article he references within.

Fun sentence from Pierce:

A White House lawyer determined that it was his duty to mislead the president* so that the president* would not commit a blatant act of obstruction of justice that would imperil his presidency.

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:28 pm
by Pruitt
What's Trump doing up this late?

And here's foreign policy the way 14 year olds see it:

https://twitter.com/randpaul/status/949001475174354945

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 4003412992

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:40 pm
by Johnnie

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:59 pm
by Pruitt
Amazon.ca says it will ship in "1-2 months!"

Chapters/Indigo (bricks and mortar chain and a big online seller of books up here) sold out in all stores - shipments in 2 weeks.

Fantastic!

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:16 am
by Johnnie
Got a Kindle or Nook? The digital versions should be ready instantaneously. (The digital version is definitely available on torrent sites.)

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:22 am
by Rush2112
Johnnie wrote:Got a Kindle or Nook? The digital versions should be ready instantaneously. (The digital version is definitely available on torrent sites.)


Kindle is available in US (just downloaded it. will read next.)

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:37 am
by Pruitt
This guy just doesn't know when to turn the other cheek, or when it might be better to just ignore your enemies...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 9463615489

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 5877765120

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 0631256064

"We have nothing to fear, but fear itself." - FDR

"Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, on this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal." - Lincoln

"Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart." - Donald J. Trump

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:20 am
by The Sybian
Pruitt wrote:This guy just doesn't know when to turn the other cheek, or when it might be better to just ignore your enemies...




Yeah, someone might want to tell Trump Reagan had Alzheimer's when he was in office, and the accusations of mental issues were confirmed. Someone also might want to remind him he ran for President in 2000 on the Reform Party ticket. Or not, facts don't matter anymore, so fuck it.

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:55 am
by mister d
[20,000 people rush to twitter to change their name to @VeryStableGenius]

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:59 am
by brian
Trump goes full Fredo.

Never go full Fredo.

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:11 pm
by DaveInSeattle

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:43 pm
by DSafetyGuy
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 0631256064

I think it should just be pointed out to him that Obama actually won the presidency on his first try, just to see the reaction.

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:25 pm
by Avram
DSafetyGuy wrote:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/949619270631256064

I think it should just be pointed out to him that Obama actually won the presidency on his first try, just to see the reaction.

so did George W Bush and Herbert Hoover (neither would be considered geniuses)

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:46 pm
by Pruitt
Avram wrote:
DSafetyGuy wrote:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/949619270631256064

I think it should just be pointed out to him that Obama actually won the presidency on his first try, just to see the reaction.

so did George W Bush and Herbert Hoover (neither would be considered geniuses)


Love to have someone tell him that Bill Clinton did as well!

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:53 pm
by sancarlos
Avram wrote:
DSafetyGuy wrote:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/949619270631256064

I think it should just be pointed out to him that Obama actually won the presidency on his first try, just to see the reaction.

so did George W Bush and Herbert Hoover (neither would be considered geniuses)

Hoover's policies as president were failures during the depression, but I don't know why you imply that he wasn't intelligent. Compared to Trump he was Albert fucking Einstein.
Wiki wrote:...his mother died in 1884, leaving Hoover (age nine), his older brother, and his younger sister as orphans... he went to Newberg, Oregon, to live with his uncle Dr. John Minthorn, a physician and businessman whose own son had died the year before. The Minthorn household was considered cultured and educational, and imparted a strong work ethic... Hoover attended Friends Pacific Academy (now George Fox University), but dropped out at the age of thirteen to become an office assistant for his uncle's real estate office in Salem, Oregon. Though he did not attend high school, Hoover attended night school and learned bookkeeping, typing, and mathematics. Hoover entered Stanford University in 1891...He became a successful mining engineer around the globe and retired in 1912. In the First World War, Hoover built an international reputation as a humanitarian by leading relief efforts in Belgium during the war, and in Eastern Europe afterwards. He headed the U.S. Food Administration during World War I. His reputation as a progressive businessman fighting for efficiency and elimination of waste was built by his service as the Secretary of Commerce (1921–1928).

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:00 pm
by Nonlinear FC
P.D.X. wrote:Magary's take is goooood.

All of Wolff’s excerpts from Fire & Fury so far (the book was rushed into stores today) read like jayvee fan fiction. They read like a pilot that Steve Bannon himself wrote, pitched to Hollywood, and had rejected 17 times over. They read, in short, like bullshit. And yet…Wolff has audio. He’s got hours upon hours of audio. Not only that, but the book has already caused legitimate upheaval in the administration, opened a permanent rift between President Trump and Bannon, AND it confirms what we have all always known to be true: that the president severely lacks the cognitive ability to do this job, and that he is surrounded at all times by a cadre of enablers, dunces, and outright thieves. As much as I wanna discredit Wolff, he got receipts and, more important, he used them. Wolff got it all. Wolff nailed them.



I haven't trotted it out in awhile, but since Mr. D has pulled out his greatest hit recently...


Fucking morons.

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:44 pm
by Avram
sancarlos wrote:
Avram wrote:
DSafetyGuy wrote:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/949619270631256064

I think it should just be pointed out to him that Obama actually won the presidency on his first try, just to see the reaction.

so did George W Bush and Herbert Hoover (neither would be considered geniuses)

Hoover's policies as president were failures during the depression, but I don't know why you imply that he wasn't intelligent. Compared to Trump he was Albert fucking Einstein.
Wiki wrote:...his mother died in 1884, leaving Hoover (age nine), his older brother, and his younger sister as orphans... he went to Newberg, Oregon, to live with his uncle Dr. John Minthorn, a physician and businessman whose own son had died the year before. The Minthorn household was considered cultured and educational, and imparted a strong work ethic... Hoover attended Friends Pacific Academy (now George Fox University), but dropped out at the age of thirteen to become an office assistant for his uncle's real estate office in Salem, Oregon. Though he did not attend high school, Hoover attended night school and learned bookkeeping, typing, and mathematics. Hoover entered Stanford University in 1891...He became a successful mining engineer around the globe and retired in 1912. In the First World War, Hoover built an international reputation as a humanitarian by leading relief efforts in Belgium during the war, and in Eastern Europe afterwards. He headed the U.S. Food Administration during World War I. His reputation as a progressive businessman fighting for efficiency and elimination of waste was built by his service as the Secretary of Commerce (1921–1928).


I don't think that either Bush or Hoover are/were stupid. I think both are reasonably inyelligent. They weren't geniuses. Trump claims he is, and isn't even close. He is stupid.

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:27 pm
by Johnnie
....But, it wasn't his first time trying to run for president.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_ ... aign,_2000

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:40 pm
by L-Jam3
I’m not going to claim I was the first to make the Fredo comparison, but damn. That’s too apt.

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:21 am
by DSafetyGuy
DSafetyGuy wrote:I think it should just be pointed out to him that Obama actually won the presidency on his first try, just to see the reaction.


I was just going for the contempt for Obama/have to undo everything his administration did angle.

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:27 am
by The Sybian
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Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:57 am
by sancarlos

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:15 am
by Pruitt
Bannon's Mea Culpa

Trump Jr. good! Manafort bad!

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:07 am
by degenerasian
Pruitt wrote:Bannon's Mea Culpa

Trump Jr. good! Manafort bad!


All Republicans don't agree on much but they all love Bannon getting his ass kicked. He's just a despicable lapdog. Will Breitbert fire him and cut all his strings/access?

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:01 am
by Pruitt

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:14 am
by degenerasian
Pruitt wrote:Doesn't Bannon own Breitbart?



He doesn't. He's the Executive Chairman. The late Andrew Breitbart and Larry Solov co-founded Breitbart. Solov remains the CEO. Breitbart is owned today by Solov, founder Andrew Breitbart's widow, Susie Breitbart, and the Mercers. Breitbart's family owns the largest stake.

They have allowed Bannon to take the company in this extreme direction. It'll be interesting to see what happens now.

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:18 am
by Jerloma
degenerasian wrote:
Pruitt wrote:Bannon's Mea Culpa

Trump Jr. good! Manafort bad!


All Republicans don't agree on much but they all love Bannon getting his ass kicked. He's just a despicable lapdog. Will Breitbert fire him and cut all his strings/access?


As far as I know, Bannon isn't some extremist version of what Breitbart is supposed to be. Andrew was every bit as much of a lying, racist, sexist sack of shit that Bannon is.

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:39 am
by degenerasian
Jerloma wrote:
degenerasian wrote:
Pruitt wrote:Bannon's Mea Culpa

Trump Jr. good! Manafort bad!


All Republicans don't agree on much but they all love Bannon getting his ass kicked. He's just a despicable lapdog. Will Breitbert fire him and cut all his strings/access?


As far as I know, Bannon isn't some extremist version of what Breitbart is supposed to be. Andrew was every bit as much of a lying, racist, sexist sack of shit that Bannon is.


I don't think Andrew intended the company to be his own personal tool (aka a lapdog). Yes it was ultra-right wing bashing the left but I can't imagine Andrew would have been this involved in DC politics and latch onto, get hired by and outright campaign for Donald Trump or Roy Moore like Bannon did. That would be like Hillary Clinton hiring Ariana Huffington to campaign for her.

You could be right though if they still keep Bannon after all this.

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:56 am
by Pruitt
"Executive Time"

So Trump's work day seems to last anywhere between 5-7 hours, which includes lunch.

Only a very stable genius could oversee the problems of the USA and the free world in so few hours!

Re: The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:19 pm
by Steve of phpBB
degenerasian wrote:I don't think Andrew intended the company to be his own personal tool (aka a lapdog). Yes it was ultra-right wing bashing the left but I can't imagine Andrew would have been this involved in DC politics and latch onto, get hired by and outright campaign for Donald Trump or Roy Moore like Bannon did. That would be like Hillary Clinton hiring Ariana Huffington to campaign for her.

You could be right though if they still keep Bannon after all this.


As far as I can recall, Andrew Breitbart's thing was to do anything he could - truth or honor be damned - to fight liberalism. So latching on to a president who would let him to that? I think he'd do it in a heartbeat. (If he had any of those left.)