Swamp Out of the Park Baseball 2017 - Offseason

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bfj wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:we have three guys OPSing over 1.000 and only have a five game lead in the standings?!


Maybe if you didn't injure yourself every other week that would be different.


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So it's stress bacne?
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Ryan wrote:So it's stress bacne?


gotta stop the juice
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Johnny Carwash wrote:I'm disappointed, I thought there was going to be a page of you guys arguing over your fake selves' fake salary demands.


I will say that there's no way that Duff is worth that kind of money. His numbers just don't compare to mine.

If we start negotiations soon, I could be open to maybe thinking about discussing a hometown discount.
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I'm playing through next week's games right now and Bronto just got suspended for charging the mound, so possible signs of roid rage?
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Pruitt wrote:
Johnny Carwash wrote:I'm disappointed, I thought there was going to be a page of you guys arguing over your fake selves' fake salary demands.


I will say that there's no way that Duff is worth that kind of money. His numbers just don't compare to mine.

If we start negotiations soon, I could be open to maybe thinking about discussing a hometown discount.


Listen up, you old fat fuck. My pinky toe is more valuable then your precious numbers. Must be nice to be surrounded by all that protection in this lineup. And play a real position. 3B...please. Play someplace where you need to move a bit. Might help with the waistline.
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Okay Pete Incaviglia Jr.

That's pretty rich coming from a rightfielder.
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At least I can run fast enough to go through the outfield wall.
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Johnny Carwash wrote:
I'm honestly not sure how to handle this. If we end up doing this again next year, we have a few options. I could just re-sign everyone (if the team has the money), spin off a second Swamp-run team, or just let people go and see where the game takes them on its own. I'm open to suggestions, so let me know what you think...


I vote that if you keep going, you play it straight. Sign who makes sense, trade others, etc. Starting over seems like too much of the same. Trying to re-sign everyone for the sake of it would basically tie one hand behind the team's back (if not both).
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wlu_lax6 wrote:
Johnny Carwash wrote:
I'm honestly not sure how to handle this. If we end up doing this again next year, we have a few options. I could just re-sign everyone (if the team has the money), spin off a second Swamp-run team, or just let people go and see where the game takes them on its own. I'm open to suggestions, so let me know what you think...


I vote that if you keep going, you play it straight. Sign who makes sense, trade others, etc. Starting over seems like too much of the same. Trying to re-sign everyone for the sake of it would basically tie one hand behind the team's back (if not both).


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How many more years am I under contract? I was making a pretty good push until my last start.

Er, I mean, "go team."
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I have an idea for resolving the contracts using a poll. Will see about posting it beginning of next week.
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Johnny Carwash wrote:I'm playing through next week's games right now and Bronto just got suspended for charging the mound, so possible signs of roid rage?


I need some clenbuterol, stat
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Johnny Carwash wrote:I have an idea for resolving the contracts using a poll. Will see about posting it beginning of next week.


i disagree..the swamp will vote me off the team because "wins" is a worthless stat for a pitcher according to them. make the unpopular move..keep TT as the 4th starter!!
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OK, the poll is up. Here's how it will work:

- Our projected payroll budget for 2018 is $130M.
- We have $83M in salaries for 2018 accounted for so far. This leaves $47M available in annual salaries to re-sign free agents.
- Vote for any combination of players whose annual salaries does not exceed $47M.
- Once the poll is done, I will rank the players by number of votes and re-sign in that order until we hit the $47M limit.

e: Was going to add that you should be carefully making your votes in the context of roster composition and player performance rather than out of spite for anyone. Right?
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TT's a pretty easy decision to re-sign since he's not asking for much money. That's a decent salary to pay a 4th or 5th starter.
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Don't forget to look at the age. Locking me up for a bargain of 20 up to my 35th year on Earth is a great deal. I am right in my prime. Unlike Pruitt who is pushing his limit as an everyday player. Or wasting money on 30 something pitchers who will most likely blow their elbow out. Can you really trust Brian with that large of contract in Vegas? You would just be throwing your money away.
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Not really enjoying the throwing your teammates under the bus thing in the middle of the season.
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Giff wrote:Not really enjoying the throwing your teammates under the bus thing in the middle of the season.


Leave it to the backup backstop to complain about the real players.

Are you still on the ML roster?
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duff wrote:
Giff wrote:Not really enjoying the throwing your teammates under the bus thing in the middle of the season.


Leave it to the backup backstop to complain about the real players.

Are you still on the ML roster?


The clubhouse was a mess before I got here.
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duff wrote:Don't forget to look at the age. Locking me up for a bargain of 20 up to my 35th year on Earth is a great deal. I am right in my prime. Unlike Pruitt who is pushing his limit as an everyday player. Or wasting money on 30 something pitchers who will most likely blow their elbow out. Can you really trust Brian with that large of contract in Vegas? You would just be throwing your money away.


I'll have you know I keep myself in pristine physical condition now that I've switched my drug regiment from alcohol to weed. No psychedelics on gameday though. I'm no Dock Ellis.
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To help with the decision-making, here is a chart breaking down the player personalities.

The emoji faces indicate the player's mood about various factors:
    Txn: Recent team transactions
    Tm: Team performance
    Perf: Player's own performance
    Role: Player's current role on the team
    Chm: Team chemistry
    Mor: Overall player morale
The different colors of the players' names themselves indicate current fatigue/injury/etc. and aren't relevant here.

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Love how my greed is low, but I am asking for 20 million for 7 years.
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"FanFav."

Case rested.
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Pruitt wrote:"FanFav."

Case rested.


So was Pablo Sandoval.
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duff wrote:
Pruitt wrote:"FanFav."

Case rested.


So was Pablo Sandoval.


Hey Luzinski - your low leadership value is showing.
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Pruitt wrote:"FanFav."

Case rested.


Trying to avoid bias here, but should point out that fans do get pissed off if a popular player leaves, and this can have an effect on attendance and the resulting revenue.
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I'm outspoken and not intelligent so why don't we just go with what I voted for?
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Johnny Carwash wrote:
Pruitt wrote:"FanFav."

Case rested.


Trying to avoid bias here, but should point out that fans do get pissed off if a popular player leaves, and this can have an effect on attendance and the resulting revenue.


My bobbleheads do sell quite well. Just sayin'...
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brian wrote:TT's a pretty easy decision to re-sign since he's not asking for much money. That's a decent salary to pay a 4th or 5th starter.


in the same vein, 16mil per year for brian and his 4+ WAR is a bit of a no brainer. hes a quality pitcher. also keeping the guy with 44 homers seems like a smart move
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TT2.0 wrote:
brian wrote:TT's a pretty easy decision to re-sign since he's not asking for much money. That's a decent salary to pay a 4th or 5th starter.


in the same vein, 4mil per year for brian and his 4+ WAR is a bit of a no brainer.


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rass wrote:
TT2.0 wrote:
brian wrote:TT's a pretty easy decision to re-sign since he's not asking for much money. That's a decent salary to pay a 4th or 5th starter.


in the same vein, 4mil per year for brian and his 4+ WAR is a bit of a no brainer.


Don't let TT be your agent.

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Just to make clear: The salary demands in the poll are per year, followed by the number of years.

So - Duff's $20M/year, 7 years is $20 million annually, for 7 years, for a total $140 million contract.

You can change your votes if you had misunderstood.
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When anonymous front office sources start leaking that TT lacks attention to detail and can be defensive when suggestions are made for improvement, remember these posts.
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This feels personal.
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Sources say mister d always makes it about himself, and one pointedly told me that someone needs to remind mister d that there is no "I" in team. Though according to one unsubstantiated but lasting rumor, there was a mister d in the team owner's daughter during a Spring training incident.
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To the chart above, here's some more background on why various guys are beefing:

- rass doesn't get to play full-time due to the logjam at catcher with AB and Giff.
- bfj is similarly limited at 1B behind bronto.
- P.D.X. is considered a top prospect, but rarely gets the chance to play behind Pruitt at 3B.
- mister d has started about 2/3 of the games this season, but is still angry about not starting every day. Also he is really dumb.
- Gunpowder is emerging as a possible star hitter, but still has to share time at the corner OF spots with Duff/mister d/bapo.
- blundercrush is a September call-up who got it into his head that he should instantly be in the starting rotation.

A few other guys are unhappy with their own performance this year (sancarlos, bapo, BSF, L-Jam, Shirley), but otherwise aren't too upset about the team dynamics.

Looking a ways ahead, but one idea I had is to take all the guys we don't re-sign and consolidate them on one other team, to establish a rivalry going forward.
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So I'm dumb, but still smart enough to see I shouldn't be in a timeshare with Bapo, who is unhappy with himself but asking for just $1MM less per year. You guys are idiots.
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Hard to understand why the 34 year-old weak-hitting, unmotivated, poor-work ethic shortstop isn't getting more votes!

He is a great fielding shortstop, ya know!
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im overwhelmed by the team support
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