To the extent it comes up: Trump crap post-WH years

Reaper · Post by **Reaper** » Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:50 pm

Dammit, you beat me by a minute.

Pruitt3 · Post by **Pruitt3** » Thu Jul 14, 2022 4:09 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:48 pm

One of the more famous cuckolds.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:23 am

I get the sense that a lot of you guys are tuning out the ongoing investigation of Trump and probably Bannon, as well.

If you haven't heard the tape released by Mother Jones... Holy shit.

Totally lays out how Trump was knew that mail in ballots were going to lag in-person, that Trump was just going to declare victory and let the chaos (somehow) lead to him staying in office.

Incredibly damning stuff. Good luck in court on Monday, Steve, you fucking moron.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:14 am

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:23 am I get the sense that a lot of you guys are tuning out the ongoing investigation of Trump and probably Bannon, as well.

If you haven't heard the tape released by Mother Jones... Holy shit.

Totally lays out how Trump was knew that mail in ballots were going to lag in-person, that Trump was just going to declare victory and let the chaos (somehow) lead to him staying in office.

Incredibly damning stuff. Good luck in court on Monday, Steve, you fucking moron.

I'm still watching and following, but didn't see the most recent day. When I heard Bannon was testifying, my immediate thought was he was just planning on wasting their time and fucking with the committee. Since it's under oath, he is risking perjury, but since nobody else is facing any consequences, maybe he is counting on that. Steve Bannon is about the least trustworthy source imaginable, I can't see any good coming out of speaking to him. I'm slightly less cynical after learning the levels of desperation his attorney showed, saying it's impossible to go to court when all your defense strategies are gone after the court threw out all of their defenses. Maybe he is trying to mitigate a contempt sentence by showing a willingness to testify, but it's too late. With Bannon, you can only assume the worst.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:25 am

I think your reasoning as to why he said he would testify now is spot on. And you are also correct that it's too little, too late. It's like robbing a bank and then coming back to the branch and trying to return the money. Nope.

And now that this particular gambit failed, I think it's highly unlikely he follows through.

The bottom line is the guy is on tape, laying out exactly what Trump was going to do BEFORE the election (claiming victory before the absentee ballots were counted). He's then on tape talking about January 6 and the chaos it would bring.

He's a fucking moron and he's going to jail and his tapes are going to give DoJ another arrow.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:44 am

What is troubling about the Bannon trial is that they aren't throwing the book at him, just charging a misdemeanor for ignoring the subpeaona.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:15 pm

I just skimmed through his Wikipedia page. Has Steve Bannon really done anything substantial of note, or is he just a replacement-level sycophant? Because I have difficulty understanding why people view this grossly unkempt whiner as some political Svengali.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:47 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:15 pm I just skimmed through his Wikipedia page. Has Steve Bannon really done anything substantial of note, or is he just a replacement-level sycophant? Because I have difficulty understanding why people view this grossly unkempt whiner as some political Svengali.

Didn't he make his political name running Breitbart? I think he was instrumental in getting Trump elected.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:18 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:47 pm
L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:15 pm I just skimmed through his Wikipedia page. Has Steve Bannon really done anything substantial of note, or is he just a replacement-level sycophant? Because I have difficulty understanding why people view this grossly unkempt whiner as some political Svengali.
Didn't he make his political name running Breitbart? I think he was instrumental in getting Trump elected.

What, just let Trump be his dumb, racist self, and let the dumb racists in red states, in an electoral map that favors the GOP anyway, do their thing? That's what I mean by replacement-level.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:09 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:18 pm
The Sybian wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:47 pm
L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:15 pm I just skimmed through his Wikipedia page. Has Steve Bannon really done anything substantial of note, or is he just a replacement-level sycophant? Because I have difficulty understanding why people view this grossly unkempt whiner as some political Svengali.
Didn't he make his political name running Breitbart? I think he was instrumental in getting Trump elected.
What, just let Trump be his dumb, racist self, and let the dumb racists in red states, in an electoral map that favors the GOP anyway, do their thing? That's what I mean by replacement-level.

I think what separates Bannon is his extreme lack of morals and willing to go the extra mile in his dirty schemes. Just read his Wiki, looks like he was married 3 times. His longest marriage was 3 years. His first marriage ended in divorce in the the same calendar year as the wedding. That's some track record.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:38 pm

He wears a collared shirt for each ex-wife.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:45 pm

Why do you all keep glossing over his management of Biosphere 2?

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:19 pm

I'm sure this is just a really unfortunate coincidence...

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:27 pm

Okay, so dumb tech question. Wouldn't the phone provider have at very least the to/from on texts from a number, if not the entirety of what was sent? And if that's the case, couldn't that be discoverable by a search warrant the same way a search warrant can get the call records from a phone number?

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 5:04 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:27 pm Okay, so dumb tech question. Wouldn't the phone provider have at very least the to/from on texts from a number, if not the entirety of what was sent? And if that's the case, couldn't that be discoverable by a search warrant the same way a search warrant can get the call records from a phone number?

I would think so. The problem is, that all takes time. I think you still need to pursue it, and look into criminal charges for whoever erased the texts. My fear is this process took so long, Trump will declare his candidacy for 2024, and Garland has indicated he won't indict a candidate to avoid meddling in politics. IMO, doing nothing and allowing a criminal to run for President without fear of indictment is meddling in politics. What happened to nobody being above the law?

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 5:07 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:27 pm Okay, so dumb tech question. Wouldn't the phone provider have at very least the to/from on texts from a number, if not the entirety of what was sent? And if that's the case, couldn't that be discoverable by a search warrant the same way a search warrant can get the call records from a phone number?

Depends whether or not the USG has their own infrastructure (cell towers, servers, etc) for cell coverage.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:30 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:27 pm Okay, so dumb tech question. Wouldn't the phone provider have at very least the to/from on texts from a number, if not the entirety of what was sent? And if that's the case, couldn't that be discoverable by a search warrant the same way a search warrant can get the call records from a phone number?

I read somewhere that the SS uses 'end-to-end' encryption, and that when the phones are reset, the messages are gone.

Could be just internet nonsense though...

Pruitt3 · Post by **Pruitt3** » Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:32 pm

I refuse to read this article in the Post as it might make dinner come back up.

But isn't this a headline that makes you want to take a shovel to the head of someone?

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Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:51 pm

He seemed to be dropping to his knees for Trump relentlessly after January 6th despite facing a crazy mob that wanted to hang him.

So this is more shocking than anything.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:51 pm

I can’t imagine Pence is so delusional that he thinks he has much support for a run for president.

The maga people hate him now, and everyone else already hated him.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:03 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:51 pm I can’t imagine Pence is so delusional that he thinks he has much support for a run for president.

The maga people hate him now, and everyone else already hated him.

Pence never struck me as being grounded in reality.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:52 pm

That should end Hawley’s national chances, right?

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:55 pm

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:56 pm

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:18 pm

What a little fucking bitch.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:48 am

The Sybian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 5:04 pm
L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:27 pm Okay, so dumb tech question. Wouldn't the phone provider have at very least the to/from on texts from a number, if not the entirety of what was sent? And if that's the case, couldn't that be discoverable by a search warrant the same way a search warrant can get the call records from a phone number?
I would think so. The problem is, that all takes time. I think you still need to pursue it, and look into criminal charges for whoever erased the texts. My fear is this process took so long, Trump will declare his candidacy for 2024, and Garland has indicated he won't indict a candidate to avoid meddling in politics. IMO, doing nothing and allowing a criminal to run for President without fear of indictment is meddling in politics. What happened to nobody being above the law?

There have been statements this week from DoJ (a deputy to Garland) saying that Trump running for president in no way shields him from investigation and prosecution.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3565 ... deputy-ag/

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:52 am

"I mean, we're totally not going to pursue charges or anything like that, but technically him running for president wouldn't affect it if we were."

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:58 am

BTW, beyond the shocking footage and hearing Pence's SS team was calling or asking others to call their families... That was wild.

But beyond that, one of the bigger pieces of info that came out (and isn't really getting as much attention as it should) is that Trump's SS folks are (private) lawyering up.

Much more direct and damning news about Trump's state of mind on the 6th are going to come out. (As if we needed anymore proof.)

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:10 am

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:58 am Trump's SS folks are (private) lawyering up.

Also his Secret Service people.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:26 am

Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:10 am
Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:58 am Trump's SS folks are (private) lawyering up.
Also his Secret Service people.

Ha!

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:57 am

Interesting clip of protestors harassing Officer Fanone after he testified. Check out the "violent assault" at the end. For Stern fans, I really thought it was Benji Bronk for a minute. There was another 6 minute video of the guy saying he is pressing charges. As he bitches to an officer about how long it takes for an ambulance to arrive, "it's a good thing I'm not really hurt..."

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:44 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:58 am BTW, beyond the shocking footage and hearing Pence's SS team was calling or asking others to call their families... That was wild.

But beyond that, one of the bigger pieces of info that came out (and isn't really getting as much attention as it should) is that Trump's SS folks are (private) lawyering up.

Much more direct and damning news about Trump's state of mind on the 6th are going to come out. (As if we needed anymore proof.)

They deleted messages knowing it was a federal crime, knowing they’d face the wrath of the OIG and other investigative bodies. What for?

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:54 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:56 pm

Good. Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving piece of shit. I’m loving how #HawlinAss is trending on Twitter.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:41 pm

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:46 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:57 am Interesting clip of protestors harassing Officer Fanone after he testified. Check out the "violent assault" at the end. For Stern fans, I really thought it was Benji Bronk for a minute. There was another 6 minute video of the guy saying he is pressing charges. As he bitches to an officer about how long it takes for an ambulance to arrive, "it's a good thing I'm not really hurt..."

Dude's a Lebron fan, for sure.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 2:11 pm

Charge

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 2:25 pm

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:18 pm

Finally? Please?

Post by **brian** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:48 pm

Sometimes you just have to laugh.