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Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:14 pm

Nice, objective* breakdown of the differences between the two parties.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... n-parties/

* - It's an opinion piece, but it's really just breaking down a somewhat recently published poli-sci book.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:16 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:09 pm Keeping the Senate was key for the simple reason that Democratic-appointed Federal judges, not merely SC Justices, are going to be continued to be approved for the next two years every time there's an opening. Think white-collar prosecutors. Think civil-rights attorneys. Think environmentally friendly judges. Think antitrust warriors. Those are going to continue to be put on benches.

And many many people who aren't white dudes.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:24 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:14 pm Nice, objective* breakdown of the differences between the two parties.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... n-parties/

* - It's an opinion piece, but it's really just breaking down a somewhat recently published poli-sci book.

Read that this morning....and checked out after he compared Gaetz to AOC.

AOC may not be your cup of tea, but she didn't support overthrowing the government.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:32 pm

Let me guess, its a "these two are polar to their parties" nonsense. Its like comparing the best QB to the worst QB just because everyone else is closer to the center.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:55 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:32 pm Let me guess, its a "these two are polar to their parties" nonsense. Its like comparing the best QB to the worst QB just because everyone else is closer to the center.

Plus AOC isn't polar to her party. She's obviously more liberal and outspoken about it, but last year when Biden was pushing to get a few things through Congress, it was the moderates of the party who were giving him trouble. Not the Squad.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:02 pm

What McCarthy has offered his opponents and what is under discussion

I think some of this is a bit worrisome. Focus on “border security”? Committee to investigate “weaponization of federal government”? Holman rule?

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:05 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:02 pmCommittee to investigate “weaponization of federal government”?

They're going to investigate weaponization of the federal government, and also subpoena everyone who knows Hunter Biden.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:48 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:05 pm
sancarlos wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:02 pmCommittee to investigate “weaponization of federal government”?
They're going to investigate weaponization of the federal government, and also subpoena everyone who knows Hunter Biden.

They will do nothing to help the American people, and their base will eat it up. I just hope moderates and independents will see through their bullshit, but I don't have much hope. The media will either both sides it and legitimize the BS and make it seem the same as the Trump impeachments and 1/6 committee, or they will tepidly question the efforts and the RW media will jump all over the the Liberal MSM for hiding the REAL investigations. I fucking hate our politics so much.

Speaking of weaponizing the government, the RW false narrative about Biden weaponizing the IRS is disgusting and infuriating. Trump decimated the IRS to protect himself and other rich tax cheats like him. The numbers of the "new" IRS agents hired by Biden includes existing agents and doesn't factor in that most new hires are replacing those positions eliminated by Trump. They also make a huge deal that ALL the new agents will carry firearms, we'll have an army of 80,000 armed IRS agents and their target is YOU!?!?!?! Right now, the IRS doesn't even attempt to investigate the worst tax cheats, because the investigations will be complicated and they are way undermanned, so they are only going after small-time cheats who can't afford to pay for a major defense. The GOP want to keep it this way, as wealthy tax fraudsters tend to vote and donate Republican. I've heard poor to lower middle class people freak out that the IRS is going to come after them now. The percentage of people audited overwhelming skews towards the middle class, and the new hires were aimed at going after the super-wealthy.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:25 pm

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:26 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:02 pm What McCarthy has offered his opponents and what is under discussion

I think some of this is a bit worrisome. Focus on “border security”? Committee to investigate “weaponization of federal government”? Holman rule?

Where is the part where the House Freedom Caucus members get to kick him square in the nuts every time they pass him in the hallways?

What's the point of being the "Speaker" when you've signed away the powers that are supposed to come with it? You get to put that on your business card and bang the gavel on occasion?

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:06 pm

In other political news:

Five Democratic politicians' homes or offices have been shot at in Albuquerque

Pruitt IV · Post by **Pruitt IV** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:32 pm

From the Post...

Colorado Republican Lauren Boebert voted “present” in the 14th round. Her move would help lower the vote threshold California Republican Kevin McCarthy needs to become speaker.

The longtime holdout received a standing ovation from her colleagues.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:40 pm

lol Boebert caved. Gaetz skipped his turn so he could go last

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:00 pm

And he just went present.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:02 pm

Man, either these mother fuckers need to be mic'd up next time or Jomboy needs to get hired by CSPAN.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:05 pm

This full court press around Gaetz and Bobo is interesting.

As was this:

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:24 pm

Pruitt IV wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:32 pm From the Post...

Colorado Republican Lauren Boebert voted “present” in the 14th round. Her move would help lower the vote threshold California Republican Kevin McCarthy needs to become speaker.

The longtime holdout received a standing ovation from her colleagues.

I thought present didn't change votes needed. Just meant you were there but the majority required would still be the same.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:35 pm

Gaetz will be the hero.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:36 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:35 pm Gaetz will be the hero.

Would be great if he was served a warrant right now.

You know, like he should've been a long time ago.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:38 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:35 pm Gaetz will be the hero.

Valedictorian of Clown College maybe.

Reaper · Post by **Reaper** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:41 pm

All the Republicans are changing their votes to adjourn to nays, so I guess they must have a deal in place to let McCarthy finally take it in the 15th. And now they're chanting "one more time" as I write this.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:09 am

Once McCarthy flipped, The Democrats should have voted to adjorn.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:10 am

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:35 am

sancarlos wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:10 am

Following that dude now since he's in Tucson. I like this tweet:

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:47 am

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:55 am

That's a lot of kids awake dressed in their Sunday best for 1 am on Friday in DC. Lol.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:56 am

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:11 am

Hakeem Jeffries going full filibuster to get the GOP mad before he hands it over to Kevin.

Kinda funny.

And he has this long part about everything we are as America:

And I'm like, "He's just talking about Santos, isn't he?"

Edit:

This is great too:

Pruitt IV · Post by **Pruitt IV** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:15 am

Johnnie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:11 am Hakeem Jeffries going full filibuster to get the GOP mad before he hands it over to Kevin.

Kinda funny.

And he has this long part about everything we are as America:

And I'm like, "He's just talking about Santos, isn't he?"

The GOP members wouldn't even applaud the boilerplate lines about America's strength.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:43 am

They need to bring canes back into the chamber.

Baloney · Post by **Baloney** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:07 am

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:11 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:32 pm Let me guess, its a "these two are polar to their parties" nonsense. Its like comparing the best QB to the worst QB just because everyone else is closer to the center.

You guys need to give ppl around here a little more credit. The short answer, because the linked article burns about 1100 words on it, is that it's about the fact that the GOP is now almost entirely driven by ideology and the House mess is showing the limitations of that organizing/driving principle. The Dems are driven by common interests (and associated groups) and have proven that under an almost identically challenging "majority" they were able to pass a bunch of important and controversial bills the last 2 years.

Pretty much sums this boards take that the GOP don't really care about governing anymore. How much longer their constituents put up with that is kind of up to how long Fox puts up with associating and pumping up Trumpists. Especially given that the Trumpists have decided that Big Business is becoming "too liberal" and are somehow their enemies... That's definitely not going to go over well with the Murdochs.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:21 pm

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:05 pm

I predict she intentionally uses more Dr. Dre songs because she is an immature shit-stirring troll.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:10 pm

Is it irony if a white-trash, black-hating racist like her uses hip-hop as walk-up music?

Pruitt IV · Post by **Pruitt IV** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:45 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:10 pm Is it irony if a white-trash, black-hating racist like her uses hip-hop as walk-up music?

I always felt something similar whenever I'd hear "Macho Man" in clips from Trump rallies.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:51 pm

WTF?

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:56 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:51 pm WTF?

Yeah this has been going for a while now.

Greg Rollie was on stage with Neal Schon at Woodstock in Santana's backing band. Fuck Jonathan Cain.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:58 pm

It was 80s Day at our school today too

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:23 pm

She and her ex used to run the big evangelical church in town where all the Tampa native MLB guys used to go to church. Without Walls, it was near Ray Jay and the nice mall.