2014 NFL Week 1

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:01 pm

Swamp discussion: what is YOUR in-stadium cereal?

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:39 pm

I don't recall an ounce of cynicism from the media reporting Robert Mathis's story that he was just trying to get his wife pregnant, not masking drugs. Guy coming off of the best season of his career on the wrong side of 30, but hey he was just trying to knock up his wife.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:42 pm

EdRomero wrote:I don't recall an ounce of cynicism from the media reporting Robert Mathis's story that he was just trying to get his wife pregnant, not masking drugs. Guy coming off of the best season of his career on the wrong side of 30, but hey he was just trying to knock up his wife.

I didn't see Pats game. Was Brady bad or did they have protection problems? He doesn't miss with time so I'm guessing he was under some pressure.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:48 pm

Jerloma wrote:
EdRomero wrote:I don't recall an ounce of cynicism from the media reporting Robert Mathis's story that he was just trying to get his wife pregnant, not masking drugs. Guy coming off of the best season of his career on the wrong side of 30, but hey he was just trying to knock up his wife.
I didn't see Pats game. Was Brady bad or did they have protection problems? He doesn't miss with time so I'm guessing he was under some pressure.

Pats got killed on the lines and Brady was pressured a lot. However, Brady missed receivers really badly on a few plays when he wasn't pressured, especially one to Edelman in the 3rd. He had a shitty game.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:53 pm

I read Brady was crying really hard after the game but then he put on eye black so he could wipe it off and say he wasn't crying he was just wiping eye black off.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:00 pm

EdRomero wrote:
Jerloma wrote:
EdRomero wrote:I don't recall an ounce of cynicism from the media reporting Robert Mathis's story that he was just trying to get his wife pregnant, not masking drugs. Guy coming off of the best season of his career on the wrong side of 30, but hey he was just trying to knock up his wife.
I didn't see Pats game. Was Brady bad or did they have protection problems? He doesn't miss with time so I'm guessing he was under some pressure.
Pats got killed on the lines and Brady was pressured a lot. However, Brady missed receivers really badly on a few plays when he wasn't pressured, especially one to Edelman in the 3rd. He had a shitty game.

Are you at all concerned? They can't lose this division, right?

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:13 pm

If Brady stays healthy they'll win the division. I think (maybe hope) today was more about a bad day in a place they often struggle rather than being something more significant.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:41 pm

That's true. Never an easy game for them there.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:39 am

Jerloma wrote:That's true. Never an easy game for them there.

'Twas a tale of two halves as well. Both lines played better in the first half. I think that the lack of quality depth on the DL, the heat, and the short "drives" by the offense let Miami get the running game going, kept the Pats D on the field and just wore them out. I know they've been practicing in the heat, but 90 in Miami and you're getting worn out.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:10 am

EdRomero wrote:I don't recall an ounce of cynicism from the media reporting Robert Mathis's story that he was just trying to get his wife pregnant, not masking drugs. Guy coming off of the best season of his career on the wrong side of 30, but hey he was just trying to knock up his wife.

Hasn't he already fertilized her garden in the past?

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:24 am

Same thing from Luck - crippling early interceptions because of dumb decisions, and then a late comeback attempt while announcers drool over his moxy. I wonder when those selling Luck as the next bestest thing might focus on what he does to put that team in the hole leading to needing massive comebacks...

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:31 am

tennbengal wrote:Same thing from Luck - crippling early interceptions because of dumb decisions, and then a late comeback attempt while announcers drool over his moxy. I wonder when those selling Luck as the next bestest thing might focus on what he does to put that team in the hole leading to needing massive comebacks...

Agreed. Luck is obviously a promising talent going forward, but I don't think he's nearly as good as his reputation. For example, I think Russell Wilson is significantly better, if we're comparing guys in the same draft class. I'm not sure Luck is a top-10 QB in the league at this point, but he gets treated like a superstar already.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:38 am

EdRomero wrote:I don't recall an ounce of cynicism from the media reporting Robert Mathis's story that he was just trying to get his wife pregnant, not masking drugs. Guy coming off of the best season of his career on the wrong side of 30, but hey he was just trying to knock up his wife.

Media has no idea how steroids work. They still report adderall claims like they are 100% confirmed.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:39 am

tennbengal wrote:Same thing from Luck - crippling early interceptions because of dumb decisions, and then a late comeback attempt while announcers drool over his moxy. I wonder when those selling Luck as the next bestest thing might focus on what he does to put that team in the hole leading to needing massive comebacks...

I have never seen a QB have as many potential interceptions dropped as Luck.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:55 am

Gunpowder wrote:
EdRomero wrote:I don't recall an ounce of cynicism from the media reporting Robert Mathis's story that he was just trying to get his wife pregnant, not masking drugs. Guy coming off of the best season of his career on the wrong side of 30, but hey he was just trying to knock up his wife.

Most Media has no idea how steroids work. They still report adderall claims like they are 100% confirmed.

Ahem

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howard · Post by **howard** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:37 am

At least the Jets aren't the only team to not have their home county. (Alameda, California.)

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:49 am

tennbengal wrote:Same thing from Luck - crippling early interceptions because of dumb decisions, and then a late comeback attempt while announcers drool over his moxy. I wonder when those selling Luck as the next bestest thing might focus on what he does to put that team in the hole leading to needing massive comebacks...

I'll get killed for being a homer and an apologist. I know that not every throw Luck makes is perfect and he has his flaws, but he had little to do with falling in an early hole. You can blame that on Pep Hamilton's absolutely inept offensive scheme and a general unwillingness to play any sort of risk/reward game until the writing is so blatantly on the wall you can't help it. Why are you lining up to kick a 55 yard FG at any stage of the game other than 4th and >5? It's fucking Manning. How many times do you have to say "don't give the ball back to Manning/Brady/Rodgers/Brees"? He's going to beat you for 7 most of the time, especially when his offense is cooking like it was in the first half. Then to top that shit sundae of an idea off, a DoG takes you back to just inside midfield and you punt it for a new of 30 yards, which Manning promptly picks back up in 2 plays. Who the fuck cares? The coaching is just brutal. Running the ball on 2nd and 13 inside your own 20 when you're down 3 scores? How does anyone on that staff justify that? It's infuriating.

I know Luck has to shoulder some of the blame, I just feel bad for him. Behind a completely porous Oline and in a terrible scheme, no wonder Kaep and Wilson look better.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:56 am

Luck had all year to throw for much of that game though. I know their line is awful but they were holding Denver off in the second half.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:18 am

Gunpowder wrote:Luck had all year to throw for much of that game though. I know their line is awful but they were holding Denver off in the second half.

I'm with you there. Lots more time in the second half, but that's also when Luck looked better. Better blocking coupled with Denver playing a "we are up 21" defense. That said, Denver's coverage must have been great because even with the protection, Luck had nothing downfield to go to.

You also saw what Luck could do in the second half. A few drops and a few throws by Luck that were off a hair. I'm sticking to my guns on the playcalling being the number one issue.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:05 am

rass wrote:Antonio Brown has had enough of these uppity punters.

That was actually a pretty silly play. Good thing Pitt scored anyway.

Not sure why he wasn't ejected.

Post by **brian** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:15 am

Giff wrote:
rass wrote:Antonio Brown has had enough of these uppity punters.

That was actually a pretty silly play. Good thing Pitt scored anyway.
Not sure why he wasn't ejected.

I don't think there was specific intent. Otherwise you'd be right.

Post by **brian** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:16 am

(Put another way it seemed pretty obvious even the first time I saw it it was a failed attempt to leap the guy that went sideways.)

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:24 am

It wasn't intentional. I mean it was intentional but once the punter held up and AB realized he hurdled too early, he was going to come down crotch first on the punter and probably get injured. He didn't want to drop-kick a punter...he was protecting himself. His leg was going to come down on the punter either way. Better the bottom of his foot than underneath his leg.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:25 am

brian wrote:(Put another way it seemed pretty obvious even the first time I saw it it was a failed attempt to leap the guy that went sideways.)

But the refs obviously felt differently. If there was no intent, why would there be an unnecessary roughness call?

Post by **brian** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:31 am

Giff wrote:
brian wrote:(Put another way it seemed pretty obvious even the first time I saw it it was a failed attempt to leap the guy that went sideways.)
But the refs obviously felt differently. If there was no intent, why would there be an unnecessary roughness call?

He did kick the guy. I thought the roughness call was correct but I don't think you can eject him for mis-timing a leap. The NFL pretty much only ejects for specific intent to injure.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:34 am

Since when do NFL refs have to assess intent when throwing flags?

Post by **brian** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:45 am

Jerloma wrote:Since when do NFL refs have to assess intent when throwing flags?

They have to access intent when determining if someone should be ejected. Not with penalties though.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:47 am

Giff wrote:
brian wrote:(Put another way it seemed pretty obvious even the first time I saw it it was a failed attempt to leap the guy that went sideways.)
But the refs obviously felt differently. If there was no intent, why would there be an unnecessary roughness call?

Do you think every helmet to helmet hit is intentional?

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:20 pm

Gunpowder wrote:
Giff wrote:
brian wrote:(Put another way it seemed pretty obvious even the first time I saw it it was a failed attempt to leap the guy that went sideways.)
But the refs obviously felt differently. If there was no intent, why would there be an unnecessary roughness call?

Do you think every helmet to helmet hit is intentional?

Are they going to start calling unneccesary roughness everytime a player's foot hits another player?

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:28 pm

Giff wrote:
Gunpowder wrote:
Giff wrote:
brian wrote:(Put another way it seemed pretty obvious even the first time I saw it it was a failed attempt to leap the guy that went sideways.)
But the refs obviously felt differently. If there was no intent, why would there be an unnecessary roughness call?

Do you think every helmet to helmet hit is intentional?
Are they going to start calling unneccesary roughness everytime a player's foot hits another player?

No, presumably they'll work in shades of gray just like everything else in life.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:32 pm

Gunpowder wrote:
Giff wrote:
Gunpowder wrote:
Giff wrote:
brian wrote:(Put another way it seemed pretty obvious even the first time I saw it it was a failed attempt to leap the guy that went sideways.)
But the refs obviously felt differently. If there was no intent, why would there be an unnecessary roughness call?

Do you think every helmet to helmet hit is intentional?
Are they going to start calling unneccesary roughness everytime a player's foot hits another player?

No, presumably they'll work in shades of gray just like everything else in life.

That's why I no longer steal charolais heifers.

(/deepcut!)

rass · Post by **rass** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:46 pm

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:20 pm

If that pass coverage happened on Madden it would be reported as a bug.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:29 pm

Did the Giants not go over the need to cover people? With their defensive backs?

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:33 pm

I'm kind of into the idea of rooting for a terrible team right now. NFL has about 3-4 years left, may as well have some laughs on the way out.

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:33 pm

Cut bait on DET fg kicker.

rass · Post by **rass** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:56 pm

Aw shucks, hell of catch by Levy.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:00 pm

Lions can't put teams away. Red zone turnover gets only 3 points.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:42 pm

a 3-3 game narrated by Berman.. kill me now.