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I'm not saying "just a joke" and those laws are anywhere close to the same level of harm, but I would say they're more interconnected than you think. Look at the fight for gay rights in the 80s and 90s and stand up like Eddie Murphy's if you want a parallel.Johnnie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:32 pmTrans rights are seriously fucking important. But I'm going to get riled up over an anti trans bathroom law more than Dave Chappelle's jokes about them. If he's going to make jokes they better be done with precision and understanding. And if he fails miserably, call him out. He wrote a bad joke and should've done better. He didn't write the bill that became law and codified the actual discrimination.
Giff wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:43 pmThis group has supported TT in so many different ways that this is very disappointing when he knows this. Not to mention the suicide rates among that group. There's not a more marginalized group. No one commits suicide because they're a woman or because they're black. State governments aren't trying to effectively illegalize their existence. The comparison is idiotic. Sad, man.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:15 amAnd, yet, a group you routinely ask to watch your standup and provide feedback.
You've got a number of dads on here with children that live the hardship of being "other" every day. Might be a decent approach to chill the fuck out, given that context.
Fine to have a strong opinion, obviously. But getting personal like that was pretty uncalled for.
Oh shit, someone blow Max's mind this morning.
You don't have to agree. But this isn't a standup show. There are great people on this board who have kids who are transgender and they don't deserve to read that shit when they come here. They have enough to worry about. Personally, I think criminalizing a person's actual being and the suicide rate is a tad bit worse than Dave Chappelle taking heat for saying he's anti-trans just because it's his "art" . Him saying he's "Team Terf" is hateful bigotry, not a joke. It's not different than a white comedian saying he's team KKK.TT2.0 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:06 pmGiff wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:43 pmThis group has supported TT in so many different ways that this is very disappointing when he knows this. Not to mention the suicide rates among that group. There's not a more marginalized group. No one commits suicide because they're a woman or because they're black. State governments aren't trying to effectively illegalize their existence. The comparison is idiotic. Sad, man.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:15 amAnd, yet, a group you routinely ask to watch your standup and provide feedback.
You've got a number of dads on here with children that live the hardship of being "other" every day. Might be a decent approach to chill the fuck out, given that context.
Fine to have a strong opinion, obviously. But getting personal like that was pretty uncalled for.
This group has supported me a lot, and thats kind of my conflict. At what point do I have to just say nothing and pretend like I agree with everyone else in here? Am I not allowed to have an opinion because this place has been exceedingly kind? Was that sentence out of line? Probably a little. Am I angry at the art form which I attempt to do for a living being attacked? Absolutely. I think the opinion that you cant make any kind of joke is exactly whats wrong with society today. It doesn't seem like its enough for someone not to like a joke anymore, now you have to go on the internet and try to make other people feel bad for what they are laughing at.
No I want people to be able to speak. Im not on the side thats trying to get people pulled off of netflix. Saying hes "Team Terf" in the middle of a standup comedy set WAS a joke, and you can tell that because the people in the audience laughed. People joke about touchy subjects, especially comics. Are there trans jokes being done right now that you like and have your approval? What makes them different? Calling something bigotry doesnt make it so. If you didn't like the Chappelle special fine, dont watch it, but stop trying to take it away from those of us who enjoyed it.Giff wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:20 amYou don't have to agree. But this isn't a standup show. There are great people on this board who have kids who are transgender and they don't deserve to read that shit when they come here. They have enough to worry about. Personally, I think criminalizing a person's actual being and the suicide rate is a tad bit worse than Dave Chappelle taking heat for saying he's anti-trans just because it's his "art" . Him saying he's "Team Terf" is hateful bigotry, not a joke. It's not different than a white comedian saying he's team KKK.TT2.0 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:06 pmGiff wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:43 pmThis group has supported TT in so many different ways that this is very disappointing when he knows this. Not to mention the suicide rates among that group. There's not a more marginalized group. No one commits suicide because they're a woman or because they're black. State governments aren't trying to effectively illegalize their existence. The comparison is idiotic. Sad, man.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:15 amAnd, yet, a group you routinely ask to watch your standup and provide feedback.
You've got a number of dads on here with children that live the hardship of being "other" every day. Might be a decent approach to chill the fuck out, given that context.
Fine to have a strong opinion, obviously. But getting personal like that was pretty uncalled for.
This group has supported me a lot, and thats kind of my conflict. At what point do I have to just say nothing and pretend like I agree with everyone else in here? Am I not allowed to have an opinion because this place has been exceedingly kind? Was that sentence out of line? Probably a little. Am I angry at the art form which I attempt to do for a living being attacked? Absolutely. I think the opinion that you cant make any kind of joke is exactly whats wrong with society today. It doesn't seem like its enough for someone not to like a joke anymore, now you have to go on the internet and try to make other people feel bad for what they are laughing at.
You basically want people to shut up. You picked this profession dude, no one made you. If people say stupid and hateful shit, they get called out on it. This is not new. If you can't handle it, maybe find something else to do?
I appreciate that man. The Caparulo show went well, and im traveling on with him to Lubbock on Sunday to open again.wlu_lax6 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:47 am Okay so I am taking this thread in a slightly different way than it has been for a few days but whatever..
I think T.T. has a pretty huge event coming up so giving him some congrats. Saw on FB that he is going to be throwing jokes ahead of a main act that has national recognition. Still not sure if John Caparulo is really funny or just gets me to giggle because he is kinda funny with a very funny voice...but whatever. That is a pretty big deal/opportunity.
OK, OK.MaxWebster wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:27 am Downsview?
(y i think that was it)
((still haven't ever seen Dave Chappelle but i'll just continue to peer through the window from the bushes at you all...))
Quit beating a dead horse.rass wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:04 amOK, OK.MaxWebster wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:27 am Downsview?
(y i think that was it)
((still haven't ever seen Dave Chappelle but i'll just continue to peer through the window from the bushes at you all...))
So former Swamper Downsview is the same person as former Swamper Pruitt, who is the same person as current Swamper pruitt2!
Heh. Speaking of old Swampers who have recently suffered heart attacks, hdo is in the hospital. Send good thoughts his way.duff wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:59 amQuit beating a dead horse.rass wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:04 amOK, OK.MaxWebster wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:27 am Downsview?
(y i think that was it)
((still haven't ever seen Dave Chappelle but i'll just continue to peer through the window from the bushes at you all...))
So former Swamper Downsview is the same person as former Swamper Pruitt, who is the same person as current Swamper pruitt2!
I think this one is a scheduled stop at least. Had a heart attack a month or so back and I think he's got surgery now to correct some things.
When I flew out of Lubbock, I saw Jesus on the plane.TT2.0 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:43 pmI appreciate that man. The Caparulo show went well, and im traveling on with him to Lubbock on Sunday to open again.wlu_lax6 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:47 am Okay so I am taking this thread in a slightly different way than it has been for a few days but whatever..
I think T.T. has a pretty huge event coming up so giving him some congrats. Saw on FB that he is going to be throwing jokes ahead of a main act that has national recognition. Still not sure if John Caparulo is really funny or just gets me to giggle because he is kinda funny with a very funny voice...but whatever. That is a pretty big deal/opportunity.
Maybe it was Elvis.EnochRoot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:25 pmWhen I flew out of Lubbock, I saw Jesus on the plane.TT2.0 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:43 pmI appreciate that man. The Caparulo show went well, and im traveling on with him to Lubbock on Sunday to open again.wlu_lax6 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:47 am Okay so I am taking this thread in a slightly different way than it has been for a few days but whatever..
I think T.T. has a pretty huge event coming up so giving him some congrats. Saw on FB that he is going to be throwing jokes ahead of a main act that has national recognition. Still not sure if John Caparulo is really funny or just gets me to giggle because he is kinda funny with a very funny voice...but whatever. That is a pretty big deal/opportunity.
Jim Breuer was always a lunatic, but his close friend was hospitalized early during the COVID pandemic. He is convinced his friend deteriorated and died because they wouldn't allow any visitors due to COVID policies. I don't remember the details, but he snapped and was convinced of some crazy conspiracies after that.
He's had a couple of decent sets, but once you've seen him act like a lizard/dinosaur/whatever he does with his arms and mouth and eyes... You very quickly realize he's just not that sharp.
The Brian Simmons set was really strong. I think he needs to restructure the routine, but some really funny stuff. Marc Normand was pretty good, but Naomi Epkergin was lame and Melissa Villasenor's set was unwatchable. She seemed unrehearsed - not really a routine, and she seemed uncomfortable. We switched it off after 10 minutes.
I've only seen Simpson and Normand so far. I love Mark Normand, I'll listen to any podcast when he is the guest [oddly, I've never listened to his podcast(s)]. Normand's set was classic Normand, amazingly sharp one-liners in a dry sarcastic style. Clearly Norm MacDonald was his biggest influence, but he has his own style. Simpson was pretty good. I love his bit about Google saving his life. Touching, dark, hilarious and I wasn't expecting a twist, but the last line was great. I've seen clips of Melissa Villasenor interviews, and she seems not quite right. She can't hold a conversation without slipping into various impersonations. I don't think it's just her act, I don't think she is comfortable holding a conversation for 5 minutes and it's a crutch. She does some amazing impersonations, but unless she has a script written for her, she can be painfully unfunny.pruitt2 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:59 pmThe Brian Simmons set was really strong. I think he needs to restructure the routine, but some really funny stuff. Marc Normand was pretty good, but Naomi Epkergin was lame and Melissa Villasenor's set was unwatchable. She seemed unrehearsed - not really a routine, and she seemed uncomfortable. We switched it off after 10 minutes.