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The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Thu May 18, 2023 11:55 am

sancarlos wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 11:41 am This debt ceiling issue is really frustrating. They cut trillions of dollars of revenue with corporate tax breaks, and then want to shore it up by taking away all the benefits. Benefits provided to poor people. This Medicaid thing where they want to tie work requirements to it is a an example. The underlying premise is that people are poor because they are lazy. Such bullshit.

There is a reason all the Republicans running in 2022 called for massive spending cuts and refused to say specifically what they would cut, because most of the items are widely popular, even amongst Conservatives.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu May 18, 2023 12:04 pm

Its almost like they don't actually care about debt, they just use it when out of office to get the Dems to cave on more upward transfers.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu May 18, 2023 2:42 pm

Ah, so Nancy Pelosi is behind Feinstein not stepping down because Gavin Newsom would appoint a black woman (and progressive), Barbara Lee, to her seat and not Adam Schiff, Pelosi's favorite. (Also note that Katie Porter is running for that seat as well.)

Gotta love the old guard Democrats who would rather be diet Republicans than progressive at any at cost.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu May 18, 2023 2:44 pm

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Thu May 18, 2023 2:49 pm

Disheartening anecdote about Dems staying home. My son came home from school saying they were handing out voter registration cards at school and the overwhelming majority of kids were saying they won't vote if it's Biden v. Trump because they both suck.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Thu May 18, 2023 2:52 pm

Ask them which party is trying to make LGBT teenagers take their own lives and why they shouldn't vote against that.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu May 18, 2023 3:00 pm

Ask them what Biden and leadership is doing to actively assist those teenagers.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Thu May 18, 2023 3:06 pm

They're not trying to kill them off like the Republicans are for starters.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu May 18, 2023 3:10 pm

Yeah, Mister D, fuck right off. This isn't a hard choice.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu May 18, 2023 3:22 pm

Lets not do all this again ... everyone here knows I vote every party line every single election. Pretending that everyone who isn't a Trump devotee should be inspired to counter-vote is ignoring why so many don't in the first place.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu May 18, 2023 3:30 pm

I agree we shouldn't do this again! So don't fucking do it! Snark is fun, and snark is all well and good on this site but if it's already been legislated here and your bona fides are legit, why post that at all? Surely you can see that it isn't just Trump, but the GOP legislatures (many of which are not completely overrun with Trumpers.) It's not a presidential election touchpoint since they already struck down Roe so the fight is at the state level now.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu May 18, 2023 4:06 pm

Where’s JoeK when you need him?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu May 18, 2023 4:13 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 3:30 pm I agree we shouldn't do this again! So don't fucking do it! Snark is fun, and snark is all well and good on this site but if it's already been legislated here and your bona fides are legit, why post that at all? Surely you can see that it isn't just Trump, but the GOP legislatures (many of which are not completely overrun with Trumpers.) It's not a presidential election touchpoint since they already struck down Roe so the fight is at the state level now.

The response was directly about Pelosi choosing to play politics over doing the job the Dems are tasked with in a finite amount of time.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu May 18, 2023 6:31 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 4:06 pm Where’s JoeK when you need him?

That dude did just evaporate one day. Weird. Didn't realize it until now.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Thu May 18, 2023 7:51 pm

From a whole-Senate vote perspective, Feinstein clearly should have resigned a long time ago. FFS.

But if she resigned, would the Dems be able to automatically appoint a replacement on the Judiciary Committee? Or would they have to go through the same process as if they were replacing her while she remained in the Senate?

Ten judges have been confirmed by the Senate this month. Do we know if that would've been doable if Feinstein had resigned?

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu May 18, 2023 9:52 pm

From all I've read and listened to, unless she resigns or passes away, then Democrats can literally do nothing to temporarily replace her for anything unless the Republicans approve.

Edit:

I double checked. Looks like, according to a small blurb from this CNN story, "Even if Feinstein retired, the process would be the same to replace her on the Judiciary Committee."

So maybe it isn't cut and dry. Could've sworn it was.

So the judiciary committee just stays deadlocked until there are 60 votes to confirm a new appointee? That doesn't make sense to me.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu May 18, 2023 10:11 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 4:13 pm
A_B wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 3:30 pm I agree we shouldn't do this again! So don't fucking do it! Snark is fun, and snark is all well and good on this site but if it's already been legislated here and your bona fides are legit, why post that at all? Surely you can see that it isn't just Trump, but the GOP legislatures (many of which are not completely overrun with Trumpers.) It's not a presidential election touchpoint since they already struck down Roe so the fight is at the state level now.
The response was directly about Pelosi choosing to play politics over doing the job the Dems are tasked with in a finite amount of time.

I did conflate your comment with Ljams’s for whatever reason. So my bad there. I don’t regret what I said per se but I definitely misconnected some dots. I will rescind the fuck off as well since I got confused.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu May 18, 2023 10:17 pm

Given that I deserve far more fuck offs than I receive, I accept this result.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Fri May 19, 2023 8:39 am

Minnesota to join at least 4 other states in protecting transgender care this year

rass · Post by **rass** » Sun May 21, 2023 5:25 pm

Got caught up watching golf and missed the brief OT in the hockey game which I learned when I switched back to the local ABC channel and the beginning of the slightly delayed 6PM news was on and the first story they mentioned was “Travel Horror” because some dude from Minnesota booked a room at a Holiday Inn in Long Island City and arrived only to find the hotel has been taken over by “the government” to house asylum seekers.

“Man receives refund and has to book elsewhere” wasn’t how they presented the story.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sun May 21, 2023 5:56 pm

This happened in my hometown except it was veterans kicked out of the hotel for migrants but wow guess what it was all a lie and homeless people were paid to lie about it by a non-profit which focuses on “preemies and veterans”.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Sun May 21, 2023 7:04 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 5:56 pm This happened in my hometown except it was veterans kicked out of the hotel for migrants but wow guess what it was all a lie and homeless people were paid to lie about it by a non-profit which focuses on “preemies and veterans”.

Yeah but at least Laura Ingraham had to come back to report that the story was made up.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Tue May 23, 2023 12:43 pm

What in the actual fuck?

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Tue May 23, 2023 1:45 pm

What, can't handle that double-barrel shotgun blast of freedom? BANNED

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue May 23, 2023 1:49 pm

Yeah, he'd never make it as DaveinSarasota.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Tue May 23, 2023 3:41 pm

Once Sandy Hook was sold as a false flag, none of this should surprise you.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Tue May 23, 2023 5:41 pm

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 3:41 pm Once Sandy Hook was sold as a false flag, none of this should surprise you.

The complaint that got the poem banned...

To get something banned, shouldn't you be able to correctly identify the author?

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Tue May 23, 2023 5:52 pm

Well, the material have indirectly hate messages. Can't argue with that.

Pruitt IV · Post by **Pruitt IV** » Tue May 23, 2023 7:06 pm

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 5:41 pm
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 3:41 pm Once Sandy Hook was sold as a false flag, none of this should surprise you.
The complaint that got the poem banned...

To get something banned, shouldn't you be able to correctly identify the author?

Nazis banned anything written by Jews.

This kid is Black.

And even more disturbing is that this ban occurred in the city of Miami, not out in some hole in the panhandle.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed May 24, 2023 7:02 am

Miami's politics are pretty complicated.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed May 24, 2023 7:17 am

A_B wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 7:02 am Miami's politics are pretty complicated.

Yeah but, this is just rogue type shit emboldened by DeSantis. It literally takes one objection for a book to be banned.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed May 24, 2023 11:58 am

Hate massages? Sounds kinky.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Wed May 24, 2023 5:39 pm

Now that Pudding Fingers is officially in the race to kneel at Trump's throne next year, do we start a 2024 presidential election thread?

Pruitt IV · Post by **Pruitt IV** » Wed May 24, 2023 6:17 pm

Johnnie wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 5:39 pm Now that Pudding Fingers is officially in the race to kneel at Trump's throne next year, do we start a 2024 presidential election thread?

I'm afraid that we probably must.

Let the countdown begin...

538 days to go!

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Wed May 24, 2023 6:18 pm

Pruitt IV wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 6:17 pm
Johnnie wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 5:39 pm Now that Pudding Fingers is officially in the race to kneel at Trump's throne next year, do we start a 2024 presidential election thread?
I'm afraid that we probably must.

Let the countdown begin...

538 days to go!

Queue up Nate Silver.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Wed May 24, 2023 6:48 pm

Johnnie wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 5:39 pm Now that Pudding Fingers is officially in the race to kneel at Trump's throne next year, do we start a 2024 presidential election thread?

Done...

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed May 24, 2023 7:26 pm

This sounds ominous…

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Wed May 24, 2023 7:37 pm

He’s gunna need a bigger gavel.

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Wed May 24, 2023 8:20 pm

If no one files an objection to the bible then I'm going to lose all my faith in satanic organizations.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Fri May 26, 2023 12:41 pm

And in the least surprising news ever...

Florida mother behind ban on Amanda Gorman poem has Proud Boys links

The parent behind Amanda Gorman’s poem ban in a Florida school appears to have attended Proud Boys rallies and has previously posted antisemitic memes online.

The parent, first identified by the Miami Herald as Daily Salinas, made headlines this week after reports emerged of her effort to ban a series of books at the elementary Bob Graham education center in Miami Lakes where her two children attend.

Wait...there's more...

She also revealed that she only read snippets of the books that she sought to ban at the education center. The books include The ABCs of Black History, poetry by Langston Hughes and books on Cuba, all of which she has criticized for “indirect hate messages”, references to critical race theory and gender indoctrination.

“They have to read for me because I’m not an expert,” Salinas told JTA. “I’m not a reader. I’m not a book person. I’m a mom involved in my children’s education.”