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Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:17 pm
by Pruitt3
DSafetyGuy wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 3:45 pm Were the spouses of the other 399 LEOs on site also victims?
Don't ask - it doesn't fit the revised narrative.

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:23 pm
by tennbengal

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:49 pm
by Johnnie

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:02 pm
by Pruitt3
But there was this one cop...

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:13 pm
by brian
Bookstore by the GFs house had a great window display with social justice books that said that said:

Always
Carry
A
Book

and I wanted to take a pic but couldn’t because we’re with the parents and her dad is a retired Chicago cop (though he’s a great guy it should be said)

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:47 am
by DSafetyGuy
Make a list of the problems illustrated by this article and tell me how exactly where you even begin to reform.

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:45 am
by rass
JFC
Deputies also revealed that Savannah Graziano, the 15-year-old girl at the center of Monday's Amber Alert was also fatally shot during Tuesday's shootout, where she was allegedly wearing tactical gear. They reported that she charged at the deputies in the middle of the firefight and that she was possibly firing at them with her father.
Turns out she wasn't armed, but she was wearing "tactical gear".
After a pursuit and shooting, the California Highway Patrol canceled the Amber Alert for 15-year-old Savannah Graziano, the suspect's daughter.

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:40 am
by rass

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:53 pm
by sancarlos

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:16 pm
by Pruitt IV
When Incompetence Becomes Obscene

Ridiculous coverup in Mississippi.

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:12 pm
by Shirley
Pruitt IV wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:16 pm When Incompetence Becomes Obscene

Ridiculous coverup in Mississippi.
It's unbelievable. Actually, I wish it were unbelievable, but still it's amazing.

Have to wonder what the cops were trying to cover up. Was the cop who hit him drunk?. Did they maybe not give him medical help and it took him a while to die?

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:39 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Good guys with guns down in Matt Gaetz country ...


Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:47 pm
by The Sybian
Steve of phpBB wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:39 pm Good guys with guns down in Matt Gaetz country ...

If this is how highly trained professionals act, what would an untrained civilian do? Can't imagine the shot that guy is going to take when he comes back from suspension.

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:09 pm
by DSafetyGuy
The Sybian wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:47 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:39 pm Good guys with guns down in Matt Gaetz country ...

If this is how highly trained professionals act, what would an untrained civilian do? Can't imagine the shot that guy is going to take when he comes back from suspension.
That reaction is a result of their training. They are instructed to treat everyone and everything as a threat, then respond with essentially "shoot first and ask questions later".

After all, what punishment do they really get for fucking up?

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:21 pm
by The Sybian
DSafetyGuy wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:09 pm
The Sybian wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:47 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:39 pm Good guys with guns down in Matt Gaetz country ...

If this is how highly trained professionals act, what would an untrained civilian do? Can't imagine the shot that guy is going to take when he comes back from suspension.
That reaction is a result of their training. They are instructed to treat everyone and everything as a threat, then respond with essentially "shoot first and ask questions later".

After all, what punishment do they really get for fucking up?
Not exactly. They are trained to use deadly force as a last resort, but if you have to use a gun, always shoot to kill. Or more accurately, shoot to stop, but that often means dead.

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:32 pm
by HaulCitgo
Think I read that two separate cops EMPTIED THEIR CLIPS. Totally aside from a bad judgment. Honestly happens. Doesnt make it right but with tons of police encounters some are gonna get it wrong. Just a matter of minimizing. But why did these guys keep shooting? Miserable fucks.

"At the same time, I felt an impact on my right side, like upper torso area," he said in an interview on Nov. 15, 2023, according to the report.

You didnt get shot dude.

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:51 pm
by Shirley
I don't really blame the second cop. The first guy screams both "shots fired!" and "I'm hit!" And then he's flopping all over the ground, unloading his clip and hiding behind a car. Who wouldn't assume there was some real danger?

Apparently that dude quit the force after. Thankfully both cops had no idea what they were shooting at and didn't hit the poor guy in the car.

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:56 pm
by mister d
Disclaimer that I'm not a cop but ... what was the 2nd cop shooting at? Like is protocol really to just start blasting away in a residential neighborhood in the same direction your friend is?

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:00 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Okaloosa County is really backwards. My mother-in-law lives there. They’re not hiring the best candidates.

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:08 pm
by Shirley
mister d wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:56 pm Disclaimer that I'm not a cop but ... what was the 2nd cop shooting at? Like is protocol really to just start blasting away in a residential neighborhood in the same direction your friend is?
She saw the first cop shooting at the car. And I think he also said it was the car. Of course, if you see her camera, she's shooting wildly also in the direction of the first cop. Not exactly the nation's best there.

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:22 am
by DSafetyGuy
The Sybian wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:21 pm
DSafetyGuy wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:09 pm
The Sybian wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:47 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:39 pm Good guys with guns down in Matt Gaetz country ...

If this is how highly trained professionals act, what would an untrained civilian do? Can't imagine the shot that guy is going to take when he comes back from suspension.
That reaction is a result of their training. They are instructed to treat everyone and everything as a threat, then respond with essentially "shoot first and ask questions later".

After all, what punishment do they really get for fucking up?
Not exactly. They are trained to use deadly force as a last resort, but if you have to use a gun, always shoot to kill. Or more accurately, shoot to stop, but that often means dead.
Stop Training Police Like They’re Joining the Military

First sentence:
When I entered the Washington, D.C., police academy in 2016 as a recruit officer in the district’s volunteer police reserve corps, I quickly discovered that I was joining a paramilitary organization.
Later on:
Police departments obtaining used Army filing cabinets at cost isn’t cause for concern, but there’s no earthly reason for small-town cops to wear military fatigues, ride around in mine-resistant Humvees, or carry bayonets. Studies suggest that police departments that receive such equipment see no measurable improvement in officer safety or crime rates, but greater quantities do seem to correlate with higher rates of officer-involved shootings and reduced public trust.
Minneapolis Banned Warrior-Style Police Training. Its Police Union Kept Offering It Anyway
While an investigation is underway over the use of the chokehold in Floyd’s death, it’s worth taking a look at the “warrior-style” police training that for years had been popular with the city’s top police union. For the unfamiliar, the training, as we reported in 2017, generally espouses a “killology” vision of law enforcement that’s frequently likened to “fear porn.” Experts say the training, which has been linked to high profile police-related killings around the country, including Philando Castille’s 2016 shooting death, also in Minnesota, often runs the risk of the use of unnecessary, and sometimes, fatal force:

This approach to policing is outdated and ineffective, says Stoughton, and, “some of it is dangerously wrong.” Samuel Walker, a criminal-justice professor and expert on police accountability, says the “Bulletproof Warrior” approach is “okay for Green Berets but unacceptable for domestic policing. The best police chiefs in the country don’t want anything to do with this.”

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:51 am
by DaveInSeattle
A Rookie cop arrests a woman after an argument, handcuffs and puts her in the back seat, starts texting his wife about how he just made his first arrest, misses a turn, and drives into a river, killing them both.

Body of missing Tennessee deputy who disappeared after making arrest recovered: Officials
The body of a Tennessee deputy who disappeared after making an arrest has been recovered, hours after his patrol vehicle was pulled from a river, officials said Thursday night.

The body of a woman handcuffed in the backseat was also recovered in the vehicle, which was found submerged in the Tennessee River, officials said.
Here's the poor woman...

Tabitha Smith, woman killed in Meigs County crash, remembered by friends
According to the Meigs County Sheriff’s Office, Smith was arrested after Leonard responded to a disturbance call. Officials said Leonard accidentally took the wrong turn and drove into the river. As the cruiser hit the water, she was handcuffed in the back seat and unable to free herself.

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:47 pm
by Johnnie
Re: Cops being trained like military

The funny thing is prior to my Iraq deployment and later on my Qatar/Afghanistan deployment I went through training that had me in a simulated patrol of a village.

Everyone had guns and they were allowed to because we were in their country. So if a group of dudes were casually displaying AK47s you aren't just allowed to shoot them.

And then let's say they started getting a bit hostile with their hands on the grip acting out, but not pointing them at us...you still couldn't do shit.

We had to follow the Escalation of Force rules. Shout, show, shove, shoot.

Hell even if you're being shot with small arms at during a convoy you just drive, drive, drive...

So yea. Cops are not being taught anything near what the military is. They're basically vigilantes with tiny, tiny dicks and no discipline.

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 8:21 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Okaloosa County Sheriff’s Department strikes again.


Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 9:00 pm
by Johnnie
I just bumped the military thread a moment ago about this story. It's fucking awful. I hate it so much.

Fucking pigs.

Re: Why Do Local Cops Need Camoflauge?

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 4:39 am
by tennbengal
“In a distressing incident”???????????????????????


YATHINK?