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So is this what we've been waiting 5 years for?

If so, I am going to enjoy the hell out of it.
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Damn, I follow this shit closely enough, I thought.

Who the shit is Scott Perry?
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Rep congressman just north of me - York, PA area. One of the diehards in Trump world.
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tennbengal wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:07 pm Rep congressman just north of me - York, PA area. One of the diehards in Trump world.
And, one of the pols who requested Trump give them a preemptive pardon.
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Please oh please let this involve kompromat Trump had over the GOP please oh please oh please
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EnochRoot wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:17 pm Please oh please let this involve kompromat Trump had over the GOP please oh please oh please
Wow, I hadn't even thought of that! I'm wishing for videos of Lindsey Graham with underage boys. Oooh, and a bonus shot of his ladybugs!

*For those who don't remember or didn't hear the story, a couple years ago a gay prostitute claimed he fucked Miss Lindsey (as Jon Stewart used to call him). Here is the quote, and I apologize for posting a Barstool link, but this was the best thing that popped up:


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tennbengal wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:42 am
Jerloma wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:37 pm Delaware, you need me to do your job here or something?
who said this is the end of him?

Oh, I wasn't referring to anyone's credulity. Just one of my favorite inside swamp jokes.

This is objectively bad for him. Whether it's just about hiding documents or those documents are incriminating towards 1/6/21, for the first time, I think they're actually coming for him but I really, really hope it's the latter.
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tennbengal wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:00 pm
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Could it be the famous pee tape/video/photos?
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no.

but the "fbi planted something" stuff coming from several trump attys tells me that they found something of note.
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sancarlos wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:27 pm Could it be the famous pee tape/video/photos?
No, it’s gotta be about the documents he stole from the WH and refused to return to the Archives when they requested them. Could he be that stupid to keep the documents at MAL when everyone knows he had them at MAL?
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Didn’t we have this razor discussion last week?
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I really doubt the Archives is interested in old razors.
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The Sybian wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:13 pm
sancarlos wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:27 pm Could it be the famous pee tape/video/photos?
No, it’s gotta be about the documents he stole from the WH and refused to return to the Archives when they requested them. Could he be that stupid to keep the documents at MAL when everyone knows he had them at MAL?
Just a reminder that Trump, in addition to this new tactic of saying the FBI planted evidence, was making the claim earlier this week that the president has the to authority to declassify any documents he so chooses. This is actually a legally sound argument IF HE HAD DONE SO AS THE PRESIDENT. He can't do it retroactively, because former presidents don't have any such authority.

The fact that they aren't going back to this argument further cements the notion that he knows he has classified shit at that dump of a resort and he's fucked.

Also, there is no pee tape. And even if there was... so what.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:53 am
The Sybian wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:13 pm
sancarlos wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:27 pm Could it be the famous pee tape/video/photos?
No, it’s gotta be about the documents he stole from the WH and refused to return to the Archives when they requested them. Could he be that stupid to keep the documents at MAL when everyone knows he had them at MAL?
Just a reminder that Trump, in addition to this new tactic of saying the FBI planted evidence, was making the claim earlier this week that the president has the to authority to declassify any documents he so chooses. This is actually a legally sound argument IF HE HAD DONE SO AS THE PRESIDENT. He can't do it retroactively, because former presidents don't have any such authority.

The fact that they aren't going back to this argument further cements the notion that he knows he has classified shit at that dump of a resort and he's fucked.

Also, there is no pee tape. And even if there was... so what.
I get the feeling that the whole pee tape thing was a rumour that people liked because it was - 1) Salacious and embarrassing and 2) A whole lot easier to wrap their heads around than the fact that a President was indebted to the Russian leader
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I mean, yeah. And the fact is, the Steele dossier was an UNFINISHED info dump over a limited amount of time from unnamed sources. A lot of it turned out to be (probably) untrue, a lot of it turned out to be correct (specifically the many times Trump campaign ops made contact with Russian intel folks.)

I put the pee tape in the same category as the Tom Arnold tape where he (allegedly) had outtakes of Trump from The Apprentice using racial slurs.

I mean, yeah, not at all something out of the realm of possibility. But just like with the pee tape... I find it almost impossible to believe that if they existed, there wouldn't have been leaks.*

* - I don't feel like finding another way to say this. I didn't say trickled out, because I'm too classy for that.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:53 am Also, there is no pee tape. And even if there was... so what.
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Giff wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:20 am
Nonlinear FC wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:53 am Also, there is no pee tape. And even if there was... so what.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:15 am I mean, yeah. And the fact is, the Steele dossier was an UNFINISHED info dump over a limited amount of time from unnamed sources. A lot of it turned out to be (probably) untrue, a lot of it turned out to be correct (specifically the many times Trump campaign ops made contact with Russian intel folks.)

I put the pee tape in the same category as the Tom Arnold tape where he (allegedly) had outtakes of Trump from The Apprentice using racial slurs.

I mean, yeah, not at all something out of the realm of possibility. But just like with the pee tape... I find it almost impossible to believe that if they existed, there wouldn't have been leaks.*

* - I don't feel like finding another way to say this. I didn't say trickled out, because I'm too classy for that.
I'm still waiting for the Whitey Tape.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:53 am
The Sybian wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:13 pm
sancarlos wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:27 pm Could it be the famous pee tape/video/photos?
No, it’s gotta be about the documents he stole from the WH and refused to return to the Archives when they requested them. Could he be that stupid to keep the documents at MAL when everyone knows he had them at MAL?
Just a reminder that Trump, in addition to this new tactic of saying the FBI planted evidence, was making the claim earlier this week that the president has the to authority to declassify any documents he so chooses. This is actually a legally sound argument IF HE HAD DONE SO AS THE PRESIDENT. He can't do it retroactively, because former presidents don't have any such authority.

The fact that they aren't going back to this argument further cements the notion that he knows he has classified shit at that dump of a resort and he's fucked.

Also, there is no pee tape. And even if there was... so what.
And to further cut the "declassification" angle off at the pass: Even if he can produce some evidence of going through the process of declassification (someone's notes, a memo, witnesses). HE STILL CAN'T KEEP THEM. All that stuff is supposed to go to the National Archives. Full stop.
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I see Trump can count to 5.
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tennbengal wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:15 am I see Trump can count to 5.
He knows the 5th Amendment, but not the 8th Commandment. (Thou shalt not steal.)
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"What a bunch of pedantic pricks." - sybian
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sancarlos wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:18 am
tennbengal wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:15 am I see Trump can count to 5.
He knows the 5th Amendment, but not the 8th Commandment. (Thou shalt not steal.)
What Commandment hasn't he broken?
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sancarlos wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:13 pm
I was making this point to a friend yesterday, Trump and his supporters actually believe Biden weaponized the DOJ, because Trump would have and tried to. One of his biggest frustrations was the DOJ not bending to his whim, and he could never understand that being President doesn't make you all powerful and the DOJ is very strictly not the President's law firm. It's no secret and Eric didn't confess anything, Trump constantly publicly berated Jeff Sessions for not making decisions to politically weaponize the DOJ. Trump frequently threatened to fire Sessions, often live in front of news cameras, because he wouldn't act politically to benefit Trump. Trump campaigned on promises of using DOJ to arrest his political and personal enemies and get revenge by harassing Hillary and many others. And the crowds cheered.

Of all the things that infuriated me with Trump, his attempted abuse of DOJ was close to the worst. DOJ is a sacred institution in my eyes. I was designated a Special Assistant US Attorney and worked closely with DOJ attorneys often. They are the absolute best of the best, and it's absolutely vital to our democracy that they remain removed from politics and control by the White House. Sure, the President appoints the Attorney General and generally knows that person's goals in the role, but beyond that, the President should never have any authority over what the DOJ does on a case by case basis. The President can set agenda targets, like "I want you to focus on preventing human trafficking," but beyond stating goals, that's it. I'd be shocked if Biden knew about this raid before hand, because Biden doesn't want to control DOJ, and both DOJ and Biden would want to prevent the appearance of impropriety.
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The Sybian wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:19 pm ...I was designated a Special Assistant US Attorney...
Or, was it Special Assistant to the US Attorney?

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sancarlos wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:05 pm
The Sybian wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:19 pm ...I was designated a Special Assistant US Attorney...
Or, was it Special Assistant to the US Attorney?

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Very funny, but the more I think about, special assistant to the US Attorney would probably be a more prestigious role.
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The Sybian wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:19 pmDOJ is a sacred institution in my eyes. I was designated a Special Assistant US Attorney and worked closely with DOJ attorneys often. They are the absolute best of the best, and it's absolutely vital to our democracy that they remain removed from politics and control by the White House.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:53 am Just a reminder that Trump, in addition to this new tactic of saying the FBI planted evidence, was making the claim earlier this week that the president has the to authority to declassify any documents he so chooses.
It shows the desperation now they are saying the FBI planted evidence, or that somehow the FBI is full or radical leftists. The FBI has always been a bastion of conservatives! They recruit heavily from BYU for a reason!
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Judge who signed FBI Mar-a-Lago warrant tells DoJ to respond to request to unseal it

I'm dumb on matters like this. What does Trump releasing the warrant himself prove or disprove? I figure it's a big deal because he won't release the warrant, but I don't get why. Can someone help me out?
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Here's something I don't understand, or maybe just illustrates how fucking stupid Trump is. I'm assuming that the twelve boxes worth of documents that he took down to MAL were really damaging to him. He rejected a subpoena to return them before the raid. If he is rejecting a subpoena to return documents, wouldn't he already be pot-committed to the crime of taking documents out of the White House? At that point, why not just destroy them? Does he not have a single paper shredder on the property, or failing that, a fireplace? The documents are paper. They burn. He's already in legal jeopardy if he didn't return them, he might as well go all the way, right? In for a dime, in for a dollar.
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This is where I can never default to "they're all just too fucking stupid to scan and shred" and assume if there's 15 boxes recovered that means there were 17 boxes taken and those 15 are intended to make this seem like a non-issue.
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