The Swamp

Clowns screaming 'Marco'....'Polo' back and forth at each other were likely told to engage in that activity to ward off any predators. Of course, just simply talking with one another is enough to alert predators to your whereabouts.

Considering the great outdoors is supposed to be appreciated, and you're supposed to leave only footprints wherever you go, it stands to reason they were likely a colostomy bag of noise pollution.

So yeah, fuck those guys. (o;

Having both a Boston accent and a lisp is a pretty cruel fate.

It took me 37.5 years, but I finally did it - I ate a salad as the main course of a meal.

So sorry

Obligatory...

I did a google search and came up empty --- anyone know if Yacht Rock radio is returning to XM/Sirius for the summer again for 2018?

I'm certainly not one to condone violence, but whoever it was that threw a drink on Tomi Lahren is a god-damned American hero. Because FUCK that Ann Coulter wanna-be.

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 9:45 am I'm certainly not one to condone violence, but whoever it was that threw a drink on Tomi Lahren is a god-damned American hero. Because FUCK that Ann Coulter wanna-be.

so are you condoning violence or not

is that violence?

Was the ice bucket challenge self-harm?

P.D.X. wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 11:06 am is that violence?

if it wasn't I'm not sure why it had to be stated that violence shouldn't be condoned

(I can't call it violence, but at the same time, this is the shit that fuels the conservative echo chamber, so I can't endorse it)

P.D.X. wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 11:06 am is that violence?

I think if someone threw a drink at me I'd feel like it was an aggression.

Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 11:24 amif it wasn't I'm not sure why it had to be stated that violence shouldn't be condoned

(I can't call it violence, but at the same time, this is the shit that fuels the conservative echo chamber, so I can't endorse it)

Nothing fuels them more than being called racist but I don't think that should stop either.

A_B wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 11:24 am

P.D.X. wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 11:06 am is that violence?

I think if someone threw a drink at me I'd feel like it was an aggression.

If someone threw a drink at me, I'd probably try to figure out what I did to provoke it. But I'm not a bleach-blonde Fox News rage monster.

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 11:35 am

A_B wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 11:24 am

P.D.X. wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 11:06 am is that violence?

I think if someone threw a drink at me I'd feel like it was an aggression.

If someone threw a drink at me, I'd probably try to figure out what I did to provoke it. But I'm not a bleach-blonde Fox News rage monster.

maybe because you said the person who threw a drink at tammy was an american hero

mister d wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 11:43 am

ignoring her like she doesn't matter is far better than throwing a drink at her

That only works if you can get everyone else to ignore her. You can't, which means the next best thing you can do is make her public life as shitty as possible.

mister d wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 1:37 pm That only works if you can get everyone else to ignore her. You can't, which means the next best thing you can do is make her public life as shitty as possible.

the quality of her public life is not in any way less shitty now. I'd argue it's better going forward now that she can be seen as a sympathetic figure by her echo chamber. people like that thrive on attention, and this generates more attention.

Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 1:44 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 1:37 pm That only works if you can get everyone else to ignore her. You can't, which means the next best thing you can do is make her public life as shitty as possible.

the quality of her public life is not in any way less shitty now. I'd argue it's better going forward now that she can be seen as a sympathetic figure by her echo chamber. people like that thrive on attention, and this generates more attention.

And yet I feel like if she got a drink thrown in her face every time she goes out in public she'll either quit going out in public or quit being a fascist cunt. Either would be a win.

P.D.X. wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 11:06 am is that violence?

Yes. It's assault.

Isn't "makes her sympathetic" part of the same justification for condemning the comedian who called SHS a soulless liar?

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 1:47 pm

P.D.X. wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 11:06 am is that violence?

Yes. It's assault.

And is only effective on pretzels.

I'll let myself out

mister d wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 1:48 pm Isn't "makes her sympathetic" part of the same justification for condemning the comedian who called SHS a soulless liar?

you've now twice used verbal instances in comparison to a physical act, so I'm really not sure where your goal posts are actually located

So when you said "just ignore her", you only meant physical acts and screaming in her face wasn't covered?

mister d wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 1:57 pm So when you said "just ignore her", you only meant physical acts and screaming in her face wasn't covered?

Ignoring her is the best solution, saying she's a racist within reason is something I can't condemn and throwing a drink is stupid and started this whole thing in the first place

None of this shit matters, guys. Seriously. Worrying about the echo chamber having more ammunition is absolutely pointless. If it's not this, it's an evergreen piece Fox has teed up on immahgrunts, baby-killers, coming to take mah guns, Obama/Hillary, whatever.

I'm not saying throw drinks on people. But worrying about providing fuel to the conservative loonie squad is truly an exercise in futility.

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 2:10 pm None of this shit matters, guys. Seriously. Worrying about the echo chamber having more ammunition is absolutely pointless. If it's not this, it's an evergreen piece Fox has teed up on immahgrunts, baby-killers, coming to take mah guns, Obama/Hillary, whatever.

I'm not saying throw drinks on people. But worrying about providing fuel to the conservative loonie squad is truly an exercise in futility.

Yeah, this. Throw drinks, don't throw drinks, whatever. But don't ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever consider appeasing these assholes. It hasn't worked and it isn't ever going to work. They can't be shamed and they don't care what you think.

It's a tough call, but I feel that if you are a demagogue whose stock in trade is sowing discord, than the occasional drink in your face is the price you should be expected to pay.

She's not out there preaching tolerance and peace. As you sow, so shall you reap. Just hope it was real cheap booze - like Popov vodka or something.

brian wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 2:20 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 2:10 pm None of this shit matters, guys. Seriously. Worrying about the echo chamber having more ammunition is absolutely pointless. If it's not this, it's an evergreen piece Fox has teed up on immahgrunts, baby-killers, coming to take mah guns, Obama/Hillary, whatever.

I'm not saying throw drinks on people. But worrying about providing fuel to the conservative loonie squad is truly an exercise in futility.

Yeah, this. Throw drinks, don't throw drinks, whatever. But don't ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever consider appeasing these assholes. It hasn't worked and it isn't ever going to work. They can't be shamed and they don't care what you think.

ignoring/not being an asshole is not appeasement

The point is that everyone on the planet could fall over backwards trying to be nice to poor Tammy and she's just going to find something to justify her victim complex, as will everyone else in her social circle of professional victims. If she and the rest of the looney right are going to have a victim complex, then might as well give them something to really feel victimized by. In the end, it doesn't affect how they're going to respond/react.

Does that make sense?

brian wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 4:36 pm The point is that everyone on the planet could fall over backwards trying to be nice to poor Tammy and she's just going to find something to justify her victim complex, as will everyone else in her social circle of professional victims. If she and the rest of the looney right are going to have a victim complex, then might as well give them something to really feel victimized by. In the end, it doesn't affect how they're going to respond/react.

Does that make sense?

I thought her name was Toni.

A_B wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 4:45 pm

brian wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 4:36 pm The point is that everyone on the planet could fall over backwards trying to be nice to poor Tammy and she's just going to find something to justify her victim complex, as will everyone else in her social circle of professional victims. If she and the rest of the looney right are going to have a victim complex, then might as well give them something to really feel victimized by. In the end, it doesn't affect how they're going to respond/react.

Does that make sense?

I thought her name was Toni.

Supposedly it drives her nuts if people misspell her name, so just in case she ever falls down a weird internet rabbit hole into the Swamp here. But if you're ever discussing her on Twitter -- which you should try not to of course -- make sure not to get her name correct.

Someone needs to photoshop her head on a Tony Toni Tone album cover. Please.

Is there a good photo of the drink incident? To maybe pair with Feels Good?

brian wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 4:50 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 4:45 pm

brian wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 4:36 pm The point is that everyone on the planet could fall over backwards trying to be nice to poor Tammy and she's just going to find something to justify her victim complex, as will everyone else in her social circle of professional victims. If she and the rest of the looney right are going to have a victim complex, then might as well give them something to really feel victimized by. In the end, it doesn't affect how they're going to respond/react.

Does that make sense?

I thought her name was Toni.

Supposedly it drives her nuts if people misspell her name, so just in case she ever falls down a weird internet rabbit hole into the Swamp here. But if you're ever discussing her on Twitter -- which you should try not to of course -- make sure not to get her name correct.

Tawny. Got it.

Ever since I went to Japan, I have been a Sumo wrestling fan. I watch more sumo than baseball.

The current tournament ends Sunday and it is shaping up for an epic final few days.

Tochinoshin is the bomb!



Happy to explain any of the intricacies of the sport. Highlights available 7:00 am Eastern Time.

It's kind of jarring to me when they aren't ethnic Japanese.

wiki wrote:Tochinoshin Tsuyoshi (born 13 October 1987 as Levan Gorgadze, Georgian: ლევან გორგაძე) is a professional sumo wrestler from Mtskheta, Georgia.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:58 pm It's kind of jarring to me when they aren't ethnic Japanese.

wiki wrote:Tochinoshin Tsuyoshi (born 13 October 1987 as Levan Gorgadze, Georgian: ლევან გორგაძე) is a professional sumo wrestler from Mtskheta, Georgia.

Of the 3 Yokozuna (highest ranked fighters) two are Mongolian. Including Hakuho - the Gretzky/Jordan/Ali of the sport. The only Japanese one won his only two tournaments in 2017 and has been injured and unable to fight for the last 7 tournaments. (Tournaments are held every 2 months).

If he wasn't Japanese, they'd have found a way to either push him out or force him to take a demotion.

Tochinoshin is really liked because he has struggled and improved slowly and steadily. And he fights in a very honourable aggressive style. (And he's not Mongolian)

Call me crazy - I love the sumo.

So that guy is big but not 500 pound big. What’s a sumo weigh these days?