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Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:22 pm
by brian
If he was worth a damn as a referee he'd still be working.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:46 am
by wlu_lax6
Something seems wrong if a pro golfer does not have an emergency identical bag that can be given to a courier and delivered anywhere with 24 hours notice.
https://sports.yahoo.com/graeme-mcdowel ... 12729.html
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:54 am
by Sabo
I think you underestimate how much pro golfers tinker with their equipment. It isn't uncommon for pros to alter the lofts of their clubs each week based on specific shots they think they'll hit during a round. For example, they might increase the loft on their pitching wedge if they expect they'll need to hit a lot of lofted shots to the green. And while pros are so good they should be able to play fairly well with any set of clubs, not having your own clubs is a definite disadvantage.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:27 am
by wlu_lax6
Sabo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:54 am
I think you underestimate how much pro golfers tinker with their equipment. It isn't uncommon for pros to alter the lofts of their clubs each week based on specific shots they think they'll hit during a round. For example, they might increase the loft on their pitching wedge if they expect they'll need to hit a lot of lofted shots to the green. And while pros are so good they should be able to play fairly well with any set of clubs, not having your own clubs is a definite disadvantage.
But that is my point. I just imagine that each golfer has a garage full of clubs, bags, gloves, etc. I bet that each club is organized by loft, material, grip type, shaft, head material, etc. The only thing that should differ is wear and tear. Just guessing that each golfer should have 2 of each. I know at tournaments the manufactures are there to assist, fix, provide clubs as needed so building to spec should not be too hard.
The comparable is the ability for a pro cycling team to have an identical bike for each rider on site in the middle of nowhere France within 12 hours of a problem (i.e all your bikes get stolen from the hotel).
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:47 am
by wlu_lax6
Tiger and Figjam for $10M in Vegas....but they were going to play in Vegas in July?
https://www.si.com/golf/2018/07/06/tige ... 10-million
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:25 pm
by brian
You might be surprised to learn that people play golf here in the summer. Also soccer, baseball...all kinds of stuff.
I presume the course they have in mind is either TPC-Summerlin, about 800 feet higher up than the Strip or Red Rock Country Club, about 1,200 feet higher than the Strip (about 5 degrees cooler) and which is shaded earlier by sunset because of the nearby mountains. If they setup lights on the last four or so holes, they could do a 4:30 p.m. PT start and play in prime time and it would be relatively comfortable.
(Of course, it's moot, but...
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:54 pm
by wlu_lax6
brian wrote: ↑Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:25 pm
You might be surprised to learn that people play golf here in the summer. Also soccer, baseball...all kinds of stuff.
I presume the course they have in mind is either TPC-Summerlin, about 800 feet higher up than the Strip or Red Rock Country Club, about 1,200 feet higher than the Strip (about 5 degrees cooler) and which is shaded earlier by sunset because of the nearby mountains. If they setup lights on the last four or so holes, they could do a 4:30 p.m. PT start and play in prime time and it would be relatively comfortable.
(Of course, it's moot, but...
Oh I know you can....it is just HOT. and Tiger has played under the lights before (the Monday Night Golf series...Battle of Bighorn).
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:49 am
by A_B
So I was in a scramble a month ago and won tickets to the opposite field event next week. First time PGA has been this close. ANyway I figured it was just four-day general admission tickets, because that's what the voucher said. Nope. VIP parking (most are being shuttled in from Keeneland, 5-6 miles away) and admission to a sponsor chalet all four days. Free food and open bar.
All because I could hit a marshmallow further than anyone else. Noice.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:50 am
by govmentchedda
Noice indeed.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:29 pm
by Pruitt
Is there any other sport in the world where the 70th ranked athlete gets any mentions at all?
So bloody annoying.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:36 pm
by Johnny Carwash
Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:29 pm
Is there any other sport in the world where the 70th ranked athlete gets any mentions at all?
Derek Jeter
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:40 pm
by sancarlos
Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:29 pm
Is there any other sport in the world where the 70th ranked athlete gets any mentions at all?
So bloody annoying.
It's pretty understandable, though, right? He was the best player of his generation. The first African-American to hit the highest echelon of his sport. A tabloid-frenzied, high-speed fall from grace, but still a guy with popularity that transcends his sport.
If you want to get annoyed by the media attention paid to a sports guy who doesn't deserve it, I'd focus on Tim Tebow.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:14 pm
by A_B
I can’t even.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:26 pm
by Rex
you must have been excited that people were talking about the Barbasol!
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:28 pm
by A_B
I had a work conflict today so I gave my elite tix to a friend. He said it was awesome. I’m going the next three days. Taking my daughter and lincicome plays in afternoon. I know she’s missing cut but I just want her to see the lady playing.
But yeah. That was my point, sure.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:11 am
by wlu_lax6
Good day to be Tommy Fleetwood...but the other Tommy Fleetwood
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/09/tommy-f ... -acco.html
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:59 am
by wlu_lax6
Congressional is getting the PGA Championship and the Ryder Cup....in 2031 and 2036. I will be old.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:21 am
by brian
I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:27 pm
by brian
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:46 pm
by wlu_lax6
Not sure this is an improvement. Especially the part about credit for winning the tournament even if you did not actually win the tournament.
http://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/247 ... off-format
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:02 pm
by Pruitt
Weird.
The guys at the Royal and Ancient must be blowing gaskets.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:50 pm
by HaulCitgo
Gimmiky but ok just 10 strokes is about 3x too much.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:53 pm
by brian
HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:50 pm
Gimmiky but ok just 10 strokes is about 3x too much.
Not for what amounts to a season-long performance and a shot at $15M prize. Should be some kind of a reward for dominating to the point where you're the points leader going into the final event. And it's 10 strokes over only the guys from 21 to 30. The second place guy starts at 8-under. 16th to 20th starts at 2-under, etc.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:44 pm
by wlu_lax6
Gary Nicklaus (son of Jack) making is Champions Tour Debut....if that does not make Jack feel old
https://www.pgatour.com/champions/news/ ... debut.html
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:13 pm
by wlu_lax6
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:59 pm
by wlu_lax6
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:17 pm
by Pruitt
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:30 pm
by brian
If it was a protest against MBS as opposed to typical Sergio petulance, he'd be a hero forever.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:51 am
by mister d
Matt Kuchar said Wednesday that he doesn't regret paying caddie David Giral Ortiz $5,000 from the $1.296 million he received for winning the Mayakoba Classic in November.
The amount has been criticized by some as being too small; caddie deals on the PGA Tour vary greatly, but there is often an extra amount thrown in for top-10 finishes and typically a 10 percent bonus for a win.
Golf guys, is this as dickhead as it seems?
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:54 am
by A_B
It well and truly is-ish.
I imagine that this caddy probably agreed to a flat fee because he was just a one-off, which is kind of normal. That said, once Kuchar won he should have kicked him some extra, even if it wasn't the full caddy share.
ETA: A local fill-in caddy has fairly limited value to a touring pro. The really good ones will be able to help read the greens and give yardages, but he isn't gonna have a feel for the clubs Kuch is gonna use, or how he likes to work the ball, how much he spins it or how to calm him down, etc. So expecting a full share might be a bit much, however the guy did seem to just be looking for 50 grand, and Kuch likely should have just paid him that.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:06 am
by mister d
Kuchar is a Christian.[22] Politically, he is a Republican.[23]
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:09 am
by Sabo
mister d wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:06 am
Kuchar is a Christian.[22] Politically, he is a Republican.[23]
Correlation is not causation.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:49 am
by brian
A_B wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:54 am
It well and truly is-ish.
I imagine that this caddy probably agreed to a flat fee because he was just a one-off, which is kind of normal. That said, once Kuchar won he should have kicked him some extra, even if it wasn't the full caddy share.
ETA: A local fill-in caddy has fairly limited value to a touring pro. The really good ones will be able to help read the greens and give yardages, but he isn't gonna have a feel for the clubs Kuch is gonna use, or how he likes to work the ball, how much he spins it or how to calm him down, etc. So expecting a full share might be a bit much, however the guy did seem to just be looking for 50 grand, and Kuch likely should have just paid him that.
I think even like an extra $20K at the time of the win and no one would have ever known about this. From what I understood of this story, this guy doesn't even speak much English so I'm guessing he was basically just lugging his clubs as opposed to a lot of the stuff a caddy would typically do (like AB said), but that said only paying $5K after a win is ridiculous.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:52 am
by BSF21
brian wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:49 am
A_B wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:54 am
It well and truly is-ish.
I imagine that this caddy probably agreed to a flat fee because he was just a one-off, which is kind of normal. That said, once Kuchar won he should have kicked him some extra, even if it wasn't the full caddy share.
ETA: A local fill-in caddy has fairly limited value to a touring pro. The really good ones will be able to help read the greens and give yardages, but he isn't gonna have a feel for the clubs Kuch is gonna use, or how he likes to work the ball, how much he spins it or how to calm him down, etc. So expecting a full share might be a bit much, however the guy did seem to just be looking for 50 grand, and Kuch likely should have just paid him that.
I think even like an extra $20K at the time of the win and no one would have ever known about this. From what I understood of this story, this guy doesn't even speak much English so I'm guessing he was basically just lugging his clubs as opposed to a lot of the stuff a caddy would typically do (like AB said), but that said only paying $5K after a win is ridiculous.
Seems pretty par for the course (nice). Find yourself in a bad spot, use minority to help you through that bad spot, find unexpected windfall, blame minority for not being in position where he could have had that windfall, shun minority. Did I get it right?
Bet that fucker has tipped 5% on a bill because the waitress wasn't hot enough.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:18 pm
by Nonlinear FC
A wrinkle to this is that Kuchar's people offered him an additional $15k and he said "keep it" and went to Golf magazine.
So, I'm a little torn on it. Kuchar absolutely was being an asshole not to give him $10 or 15k up front, but then not just taking the overall $20k has the caddy being a dickhead.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:20 pm
by Nonlinear FC
But to AB and brian's point, no way is he entitled to the "customary" 10 percent that goes to stand-in tour caddies. Local knowledge is fine, but guys at Kuchar's level get what they need on that front after a few practice rounds/walking the course. Very limited value for a guy that's a club caddie with limited English.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:29 pm
by mister d
I'm completely fine with the caddy airing him out. The number one protection for assholes is silence.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:28 pm
by DSafetyGuy
mister d wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:29 pm
I'm completely fine with the caddy airing him out. The number one protection for assholes is silence.
Yeah, it's almost literally pennies for Kuchar and life-changing money for the caddy. Wonder if it would have been worth $50K to not have the embarrassment at having this aired out... and the story of him doing this for the caddy would have ended up getting out, too, which probably would have gotten him some additional sponsorship/public speaking gigs to more than recoup the 50K.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:26 pm
by Nonlinear FC
DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:28 pm
mister d wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:29 pm
I'm completely fine with the caddy airing him out. The number one protection for assholes is silence.
Yeah, it's almost literally pennies for Kuchar and life-changing money for the caddy. Wonder if it would have been worth $50K to not have the embarrassment at having this aired out... and the story of him doing this for the caddy would have ended up getting out, too, which probably would have gotten him some additional sponsorship/public speaking gigs to more than recoup the 50K.
Put another way (as a comms/marketing guy) Kuchar should be pissed at his agent (or whatever similarly positioned suit made the decision), because $50k would've been worth the amount of free media he would've garnered by PUSHING THE STORY OUT. Pretty dumb, actually.
Re: A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014/2015/2016/2017/2018/2019
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:30 pm
by govmentchedda
Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:26 pm
DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:28 pm
mister d wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:29 pm
I'm completely fine with the caddy airing him out. The number one protection for assholes is silence.
Yeah, it's almost literally pennies for Kuchar and life-changing money for the caddy. Wonder if it would have been worth $50K to not have the embarrassment at having this aired out... and the story of him doing this for the caddy would have ended up getting out, too, which probably would have gotten him some additional sponsorship/public speaking gigs to more than recoup the 50K.
Put another way (as a comms/marketing guy) Kuchar should be pissed at his agent (or whatever similarly positioned suit made the decision), because $50k would've been worth the amount of free media he would've garnered by PUSHING THE STORY OUT. Pretty dumb, actually.
Kevin Van Valkenburg tweeted something similar, as Kuchar's "appeal" is his golly gee, oh shucks, likeable persona.