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Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:51 pm
by HaulCitgo
That's how I found this place many many moons ago. A northwestern journalism summer camper said there was concacaf discussion to be had on this forum.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:56 am
by Pruitt

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:26 am
by govmentchedda
Teen Vogue has had some pretty well written stuff of late. Lauren Duca (I think)(too lazy/time strapped to check) has been pretty good.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:47 am
by degenerasian
Why does it have to be deleted? it's an opinion piece. People who don't agree with it should just write a counter piece.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:52 am
by brian
degenerasian wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:47 am Why does it have to be deleted? it's an opinion piece. People who don't agree with it should just write a counter piece.
It was an advertisement, not an opinion piece. But the issue isn't that because that's obviously fine (advertising), but it wasn't labelled as such which is the fault of both Facebook and (mostly) Teen Vogue.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:58 am
by mister d
Its not an opinion piece, its advertising (or propaganda) framed as an article.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:06 am
by degenerasian
makes sense now, thanks.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:57 am
by rass
The online home of our local daily newspaper is killing off comments as of tomorrow.

Comment sections are a cesspool but I wonder how this affects engagement or click-throughs or whatever they use to measure readership and charge for advertising?

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:37 am
by DSafetyGuy
rass wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:57 am The online home of our local daily newspaper is killing off comments as of tomorrow.

Comment sections are a cesspool but I wonder how this affects engagement or click-throughs or whatever they use to measure readership and charge for advertising?
Same thing up here. The article about closing comments mentioned their site gets over four million unique visitors a month and only about 3,500 different commenters, so I would guess the comments don't have much effect.

The article also has over 2,400 comments.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:39 am
by brian
DSafetyGuy wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:37 am
rass wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:57 am The online home of our local daily newspaper is killing off comments as of tomorrow.

Comment sections are a cesspool but I wonder how this affects engagement or click-throughs or whatever they use to measure readership and charge for advertising?
Same thing up here. The article about closing comments mentioned their site gets over four million unique visitors a month and only about 3,500 different commenters, so I would guess the comments don't have much effect.

The article also has over 2,400 comments.
syracuse.com and nj.com and their associated print pubs are owned by the same company (Advance Publications).

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:42 am
by DSafetyGuy
brian wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:39 am
DSafetyGuy wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:37 am
rass wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:57 am The online home of our local daily newspaper is killing off comments as of tomorrow.

Comment sections are a cesspool but I wonder how this affects engagement or click-throughs or whatever they use to measure readership and charge for advertising?
Same thing up here. The article about closing comments mentioned their site gets over four million unique visitors a month and only about 3,500 different commenters, so I would guess the comments don't have much effect.

The article also has over 2,400 comments.
syracuse.com and nj.com and their associated print pubs are owned by the same company (Advance Publications).
Yeah, the sites are clearly owned by the same parent company based on their appearance only.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:50 am
by brian
We don't have anything to do with the comments stuff, but they're one of my biggest customers. We've actually had good traction with Syracuse lately (nj.com -- not so much)

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:35 am
by DaveInSeattle

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:52 am
by brian
For what's it worth, I wouldn't bet $1 on that happening.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:20 am
by Joe K
brian wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:52 am For what's it worth, I wouldn't bet $1 on that happening.
What a shock that the WSJ Opinion page is ready to put him on Mt. Rushmore now that the Treasury is going to give trillions in bailout funds to large corporations.

I'm still very much worried he gets re-elected given Biden's weaknesses, but he's definitely not getting remembered as a "great president."

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:24 am
by brian
I mean look. If he had somehow managed to stifle his worst instincts and actually rose to the occasion from the start, ordering the federal government to produce tests and providing them to the states, offering and taking the advice of the scientists, nationalizing the production of masks and ventilators, etc. I would have given him all the credit in the world, here and elsewhere.

But he's not capable of it and he'll never be capable of it, so there's no "worry" about this being anything other than a huge goatfuck when he's all said and done, so if the WSJ wants to play "what if", I'll say that if Chrissy Teigen decides to leave John Legend for me next month then I'll be a hero forever to overweight, middle-aged guys everywhere, but the odds are roughly the same.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:10 am
by rass
brian wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:24 am I mean look. If he had somehow managed to stifle his worst instincts and actually rose to the occasion from the start, ordering the federal government to produce tests and providing them to the states, offering and taking the advice of the scientists, nationalizing the production of masks and ventilators, etc. I would have given him all the credit in the world, here and elsewhere.
Sad thing is, he would have been uniquely qualified to do just this. If he had been in lockstep with public health experts from the beginning, only outliers on the right and left would have complained.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:14 am
by brian
rass wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:10 am
brian wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:24 am I mean look. If he had somehow managed to stifle his worst instincts and actually rose to the occasion from the start, ordering the federal government to produce tests and providing them to the states, offering and taking the advice of the scientists, nationalizing the production of masks and ventilators, etc. I would have given him all the credit in the world, here and elsewhere.
Sad thing is, he would have been uniquely qualified to do just this. If he had been in lockstep with public health experts from the beginning, only outliers on the right and left would have complained.
Yeah, this was his chance to put all of the incompetence and divisiveness in the rearview window and have this be what voters think of when they vote in November. An even semi-competent response probably would have locked up his re-election.

Like Joe said I don't think you can take anything for granted or project any out further than the next week or so at this point, but if this goes as bad as it looks like it's gonna go, I really don't see how he gets re-elected.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:20 am
by mister d
I don't "get" Chrissy Teigen.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:35 am
by Pruitt
mister d wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:20 am I don't "get" Chrissy Teigen.
Nor do I.

I mean other than dissing Trump, what does she do?

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:38 am
by brian
Be hot and funny and a great cook.

What else do you guys want from a woman?

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:02 pm
by Pruitt
brian wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:38 am Be hot and funny and a great cook.

What else do you guys want from a woman?
I don;t find her that good looking.

But I was just wondering why she's famous.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:05 pm
by Ryan
She's a model and writes books and hosts TV shows and is in commercials and is married to someone famous and is extremely online?

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:06 pm
by brian
Ryan wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:05 pm She's a model and writes books and hosts TV shows and is in commercials and is married to someone famous and is extremely online?
But other than that, why?

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:25 pm
by Nonlinear FC
The other thing ppl have kind of forgotten about her is that she was one of the last SI swimsuit models that really made a pop culture impact. She's been at this for a minute.

Also, we aren't (for the most part) all that in tune with Instagram culture. She has a huge following there, which has reinvigorated her relevance.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:27 pm
by Johnny Carwash
Thirded on not getting her appeal at all.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:46 pm
by Nonlinear FC
Don't make me force the moderators to slap a NSFWFH tag on this bitch.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:50 pm
by A_B
We may need a mediator to settle this petty squabble.


Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:14 pm
by mister d
I understand who she is, I just don't get the mass appeal. Seems like the smartest (but not best looking) Kardashian or something.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:39 pm
by DSafetyGuy
brian wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:06 pm
Ryan wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:05 pm She's a model and writes books and hosts TV shows and is in commercials and is married to someone famous and is extremely online?
But other than that, why?
Represents very well in real life.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:32 pm
by Pruitt
mister d wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:14 pm I understand who she is, I just don't get the mass appeal. Seems like the smartest (but not best looking) Kardashian or something.
She looks like she's had some bad work done.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:31 pm
by Johnny Carwash
That Super Bowl commercial she did had me just sitting there thinking, "People actually like this person?"

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:46 pm
by brian
Guess I know who I don’t have to invite to our wedding.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:57 pm
by Shirley

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:42 pm
by P.D.X.
Guys get trapped in their home for a week+ and somehow get more picky.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:40 pm
by mister d
A younger, less refined me would have a response to those pics.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:42 pm
by brian
She hasn't lost all the baby weight from her last kid, but that's like throwing away a Wagyu steak just because it's a little overcooked.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:49 pm
by mister d
Nothing to do with weight.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:52 pm
by rass
I think she’s got a much higher range of variability from picture to picture than most super models. Maybe that’s to her credit, being more down to earth (or at least having a brand built around seeming as much) and willing to occasionally take a shitty photo. Dunno.

Re: (The End of) Journalism Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:53 pm
by Nonlinear FC
Shirley wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:57 pm See if any of these help.

https://www.google.com/search?q=chrissy ... S755&hl=en
That's exactly what my previous warning about NSTWFH post was about.

She's a hottie, especially if you like uncertain asian origin females.