The National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum MMXV

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:26 pm

Blank ballots (without serious justification) and nonsense like "Kent only" should just get your ballot pulled. I don't care about throwing your 10th vote to Torii Hunter or whatever, but fucking with the denominator is for shitheads.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:33 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:26 pm Blank ballots (without serious justification) and nonsense like "Kent only" should just get your ballot pulled. I don't care about throwing your 10th vote to Torii Hunter or whatever, but fucking with the denominator is for shitheads.

What about the fuckknuckle who turned in a blank one HIS FIRST YEAR AS A VOTER?!?!?

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:39 pm

Jeff Kent's monster truck sales and repair rep.

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:41 pm

So is no one guessing because it's obvious who it is?

Post by **brian** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:48 pm

Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:41 pm So is no one guessing because it's obvious who it is?

I saw it on Twitter, so that was cheating.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:27 pm

I found this tweet amusing, but I put in the spoiler to not ruin things for anyone who wants to guess.

[+] spoiler

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:29 pm

Did he explain this last year? Like, to pick one comp, does he think Rolen is dirty or that Kent was better than Rolen?

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:34 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:29 pm Did he explain this last year? Like, to pick one comp, does he think Rolen is dirty or that Kent was better than Rolen?

You think he did that much research? Another writer probably told him Kent bought a round of drinks once.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:32 pm

Working off this pent up energy with some Sabo Murder fanfic.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:57 pm

HOt take: Papi and Rolen.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:59 pm

The Dichotomous Duo.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:14 pm

Together, they'd make a first ballot hall of famer. Also separate.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:17 pm

Just Papi?

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:36 pm

How anyone can vote for David Ortiz and not Barry Bonds or Roger Clemens is just ridiculous.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:45 pm

You know, if David Ortiz took the time between now and the induction ceremony to share his steroids story to help educate the younger generation about the dangers of PEDs, it might bode well for the others caught on the wrong side of history here (ARod, Bonds, Clemens).

But as it stands, Cooperstown has been reduced to a joke. Ortiz can perhaps fix that.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:53 pm

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:45 pm You know, if David Ortiz took the time between now and the induction ceremony to share his steroids story to help educate the younger generation about the dangers of PEDs, it might bode well for the others caught on the wrong side of history here (ARod, Bonds, Clemens).

But as it stands, Cooperstown has been reduced to a joke. Ortiz can perhaps fix that.

Why would he do that. He and others got fucked over by the leaking of the Mitchell Report, which was supposed to be an anonymous test, with a vague "he's on the report," with no other information. Why's it up to him and not Selig, the owners, and the press who decided to look the other way during this era?

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:58 pm

EdRomero wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:53 pm
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:45 pm You know, if David Ortiz took the time between now and the induction ceremony to share his steroids story to help educate the younger generation about the dangers of PEDs, it might bode well for the others caught on the wrong side of history here (ARod, Bonds, Clemens).

But as it stands, Cooperstown has been reduced to a joke. Ortiz can perhaps fix that.
Why would he do that. He and others got fucked over by the leaking of the Mitchell Report, which was supposed to be an anonymous test, with a vague "he's on the report," with no other information. Why's it up to him and not Selig, the owners, and the press who decided to look the other way during this era?

Because nobody gives a crap about Selig or any owner (he'd do it to help get his contemporaries into the Hall of Fame).

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:22 pm

Jim Rice is no longer the lowest fWAR modern era Red Sox HoFer!

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:30 pm

Bob Costas wrote:“Pete Rose is banned from baseball and cannot appear on the HOF ballot. And now ladies and gentlemen, a word from out sponsor, DraftKings.”

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:47 pm

I'd put in Barry Bonds' drug dealer in before Pete Rose. Fuck him

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:09 am

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:36 pm How anyone can vote for David Ortiz and not Barry Bonds or Roger Clemens is just ridiculous.

This right here. I’d love to hear the arguments from even just one of the 47 guys who did this.

MaxWebster · Post by **MaxWebster** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:54 am

never forget: Harold Baines was a better player than Barry Bonds.

only one is in the HOF.

QED

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:58 am

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:09 amThis right here. I’d love to hear the arguments from even just one of the 47 guys who did this.

What if they said "Clemens was fucking a kid when he was in his late 20s"? Because I'm ok with that reasoning.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:54 am

I'll assume this makes sense to the Simpsons fans.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:17 am

Timely as well! Rest in peace Bob

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:20 pm

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:59 pm

Crime Dog!

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:04 pm

I’m agnostic on McGriff getting in but there’s only one guy of the other seven you can say he’s clearly more worthy than. And three where it’s not even close. And a few more in that bucket who aren’t in and weren’t on this ballot.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:06 pm

Still one of the dumbest trades in MLB history for the Yankees trade him along with MIke Morgan, Dave Collins and Cash to the Blue Jays for Tom Dodd and Dale Murray.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:19 pm

Results, not process.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Dec 28, 2022 2:19 pm

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A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:49 am

Don't even care. Fuck it all.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:52 pm

This is either going to be Helton only (a guy whose numbers are very arguably a Coors Field mirage) or no one, huh?

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:29 pm

Or as they say in the Cooperstown lodging business, "Same diff"

Reaper · Post by **Reaper** » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:14 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:52 pm This is either going to be Helton only (a guy whose numbers are very arguably a Coors Field mirage) or no one, huh?

According to the HOF tracker, Rolen is actually leading Helton with 50.8% of the ballots known. It looks like Rolen has 80% to Helton's 78%. Billy Wagner has been hovering around 71% so he needs over 78% of the unknown vote.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:28 pm

He is, but the type of voter who doesn't submit to the tracker is the type who has the more regressive view of what a HoFer is. That'll favor Helton.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:02 pm

NP with Rolen’s election to the HOF. Elite glove at 3B and a well above average bat with 300+ HR. That’s worthy.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:35 pm

Andruw next.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:31 pm

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:39 am

I'll just say Adrian beltre is glad about yesterday's proceedings.