Swamp Pet Peeves

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:19 am

1. When people publicly post that they are "in" in Swampcrash.

2. The rampant hipsterism in the "Spins" thread.

3. When people don't acknowledge and affirm my righteous indignation.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:22 am

Gosh darn it, Jerloma. I'd just like to take the opportunity here to acknowledge the righteousness of the indignation you just expressed.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:28 am

4. When SC patronizes me.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:30 am

Is 2 the actual approach or the disbelief that people could like bands you don't know while honestly disliking Billy Joel?

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:31 am

When turd used a new name in nuswamp 3.7 and made me look like an idiot.

I'm an idiot. I just like to prove it on my own terms.

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:34 am

1. Is it the method (just the word "in") or the action itself? At this point, there have been enough instances of answers not getting through to the game runner that the mention in thread seems warranted.

2. I think you (and especially SL) are way too sensitive on this subject. Way more positivity ("hey, you guys should check this out") than negativity around here, and I at least think the latter is more indicative of "hipsterism".

3. sorry?

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:36 am

I have read the original post.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:38 am

Ryan wrote:I have read the original post.

Wow. Getting dusty in here.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:38 am

mister d wrote:Is 2 the actual approach or the disbelief that people could like bands you don't know while honestly disliking Billy Joel?

It just seems odd that a no time is anybody ever feeling some Quiet Riot or something.

1. Is it the method (just the word "in") or the action itself? At this point, there have been enough instances of answers not getting through to the game runner that the mention in thread seems warranted.

I think it's the mistrust of technology whereas in other areas you wouldn't be remotely concerned. Like, if you email someone a PowerPoint deck at work, do you then run down to their office to make sure that they got it?

bapo! · Post by **bapo!** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:39 am

while honestly disliking Billy Joel

I honestly love Billy Joel, which should help you forgive at least part of my rampant hipsterism.

My biggest Swamp complaint is the simple lack of new (non-wlulax) threads. Everything gets buried in catch-all threads. I just started a thread about Jameis Winston. I know that folks have talked about him here in game-day threads among 20 other conversations, but he's big enough to stand on his own.

I've probably missed conversations that I wanted to take part in because they were in the Florida/Ohio thread, or whatever.

I feel like I'm becoming the new Hood, only popping in here to start my own threads and ignoring everything else.

howard · Post by **howard** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:39 am

Jerloma wrote:3. When people don't acknowledge and affirm my righteous indignation.

Dude, this is a given. Even when I am arguing against your indignation, affirmation should be evident. Maybe like most husbands telling their wife 'I love you', we could say it more often, but this is a hard and fast fact. Don't get indignant we don't overtly acknowledge your indignancity more often.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:41 am

mister d wrote:
Ryan wrote:I have read the original post.
Wow. Getting dusty in here.

This.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:42 am

Good points, Bapo. You've inspired me to occasionally start more new threads, so as to not clutter the catch-alls as much.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:46 am

Jerloma wrote:
mister d wrote:Is 2 the actual approach or the disbelief that people could like bands you don't know while honestly disliking Billy Joel?
It just seems odd that a no time is anybody ever feeling some Quiet Riot or something.

I think a lot of this stems from a seeming disbelief that certain people really do constantly listen to new music versus their old library. Maybe some day (once Missus D is back at work) we can both chart our music habits for one exciting, excitement filled week and we can analyze.

bapo! · Post by **bapo!** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:57 am

sancarlos wrote:You've inspired me

I've inspired you! (Whoa, and I see that you just started a 'Better Call Saul' thread. It's about damn time! I haven't seen the latest episode yet, but I'll check in eventually.)

Some big threads, like the beer or music threads, are fine as is. (Billy Joel would say, 'I love them just the way they are.') But I sometimes feel dirty whenever I post in the hockey thread. I feel like I'm hurting conversation by putting things in there. On the other hand, I know what it's like when your threads sink down the page after one or two responses. Which is why the Swamp has so far been spared from my Lena Dunham/Girls appreciation thread.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:59 am

bapo! wrote: I know what it's like when your threads sink down the page after one or two responses.

Only the good die young.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:02 am

Pet Peeve 2 is located within my Avatar.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:05 am

I never claimed to start it. I popularized it.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:06 am

Jerloma wrote:I never claimed to start it. I popularized it.

Read the avatar. It can't be refuted.

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:11 am

I imagine many of us have more complex musical tastes than is immediately apparent.

I am deeply embedded in the past. Deeply. Witness the Old Timey thread. Very little since 1975 has gotten past my troglodytic critical filter.

On the other hand, there are 20 or so CDs next to my desk that were produced in 2014 or 2015. I routinely request new stuff from the library, so I can see what's happening out there in the pop-rock genres. I listen to perhaps 1 in 20 more than once; I often end up tuning out or skipping to the end of tracks that clearly aren't happening for me.

Yesterday was a high hit-rate kind of day. I discovered the Madden Brothers. I had no idea they existed; must have missed the hipster alert posts on these guys. And there's some good stuff there. Definite pop-rock hits, with some nice arrangements and sounds that go beyond the usual cliches. I'll listen to whatever these guys have done previously, and in the future.

I'm not as sold on Foxygen (sp?), whatever that is. But yesterday I listened twice to a 2 CD album, and they grew on me when I paid more attention. I'm getting the prior album from the library.

Right now I'm listening to Chuck Berry in London from 1972. That's inspired by SanCarlos posting in the the Old Timey thread. Next up is Ben Howard (no idea), then the latest from my neighbor, jazz pianist Waleed Howrani. Followed by what might be Goat or Goat Commune (can't tell from the CD case), and Susan Boyle. Then the 2-disk complete version of Aretha Franklin's legendary 1972 gospel concerts.

I have low expectations about the new stuff. But as yesterday showed me, you never can tell (quoting Chuck here). Ironically, you can always tell about Chuck.

bapo! · Post by **bapo!** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:19 am

Ryan wrote:
bapo! wrote: I know what it's like when your threads sink down the page after one or two responses.
Only the good die young.

I've never been big on Swamp memes, but I do like the recent trend of Billy Joel lyrics popping up here and there. More of this, please.

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:21 am

DC47 wrote:I'm not as sold on Foxygen (sp?), whatever that is. But yesterday I listened twice to a 2 CD album, and they grew on me when I paid more attention. I'm getting the prior album from the library.

Ha.

In the context of this thread, at least.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:26 am

DC47 wrote:I discovered the Madden Brothers. I had no idea they existed; must have missed the hipster alert posts on these guys.

See, this response will annoy J-Lo ... my guess is both actual hipsters and the self-identifying hipsters would be in agreement that the Good Charlotte boys aren't hipster music.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:45 am

Oh god, THOSE Madden Brothers?

Hipster!

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:46 am

Hipster.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:47 am

I've been told that there's no such thing as a self-identifying hipster.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:52 am

Correct. There are people who are hipsters who would genuinely loathe the term and people who either call themselves hipsters or are called hipsters by their friends because they own a plaid shirt but are definitively not hipsters. Its a label you cannot consciously and intentionally wear because hipsters hate "hipsters".

(I should have used the sarcasm quotes in my initial post. I see the confusion now.)

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:55 am

rass wrote:
DC47 wrote:I'm not as sold on Foxygen (sp?), whatever that is. But yesterday I listened twice to a 2 CD album, and they grew on me when I paid more attention. I'm getting the prior album from the library.
Ha.

In the context of this thread, at least.

Are Foxygen big in the hipster world?

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:58 am

Jerloma wrote:I've been told that there's no such thing as a self-identifying hipster.

That's an extremely hipster thing to say.

mister d wrote:Correct. There are people who are hipsters who would genuinely loathe the term and people who either call themselves hipsters or are called hipsters by their friends because they own a plaid shirt but are definitively not hipsters. Its a label you cannot consciously and intentionally wear because hipsters hate "hipsters".

So, in other words, hipsters are hipsters about being hipsters.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:58 am

In the "hipster" world, sure. The real hipster world is small club stuff none of us know about.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:59 am

Is it a good parallel to compare modern "hipsters" to people who follow Buffet around while talking about their "hippie" days?

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:21 pm

DC47 wrote:
rass wrote:
DC47 wrote:I'm not as sold on Foxygen (sp?), whatever that is. But yesterday I listened twice to a 2 CD album, and they grew on me when I paid more attention. I'm getting the prior album from the library.
Ha.

In the context of this thread, at least.
Are Foxygen big in the hipster world?

Fuck if I know. There was a link there, in case you missed it.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:56 pm

mister d wrote:Correct. There are people who are hipsters who would genuinely loathe the term and people who either call themselves hipsters or are called hipsters by their friends because they own a plaid shirt but are definitively not hipsters. Its a label you cannot consciously and intentionally wear because hipsters hate "hipsters".

I'm wearing a plaid shirt right now!

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:13 pm

When some old author dies and you guys act like you're personally affected by it because you read one of his books 15 years ago.

howard · Post by **howard** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:21 pm

HEY!

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:10 pm

DaveInSeattle wrote:
mister d wrote:Correct. There are people who are hipsters who would genuinely loathe the term and people who either call themselves hipsters or are called hipsters by their friends because they own a plaid shirt but are definitively not hipsters. Its a label you cannot consciously and intentionally wear because hipsters hate "hipsters".
I'm wearing a plaid shirt right now!

Six different people in my office have plaid shirts on today.

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:17 pm

Ah, Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu's Brooklyn office must be rocking today. Special Thursday afternoon craft brew party curated by Torst, with the Dap Kings performing in the courtyard.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:19 pm

I think that perfectly encompasses pretend hipsters. Corporate job, popular band, probably the biggest beer bar in Brooklyn. Well done.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:26 pm

rass wrote: 2. I think you (and especially SL) are way too sensitive on this subject. Way more positivity ("hey, you guys should check this out") than negativity around here, and I at least think the latter is more indicative of "hipsterism".

Not a chance. There's negativity and it's annoying as hell. Some of the most godawful shit is listened to in here but I don't point it out when it's posted. Rush for example is so awful (the band, not the poster) but I don't note that when they are brought up.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:26 pm

Mr. D had to preemptively get in on it because he knows he's the worst offender