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Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:52 pm
by A_B
Well fuck off then. Mine was great!

ETA: if you were talking about Ryan’s original joke then you were even further off for not giving him credit! He’s the master of that!

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:54 pm
by Ryan
Aaaaaand i was being serious

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:34 pm
by A_B
Ryan wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:54 pm Aaaaaand i was being serious
I actually knew that. He shoulda shown you more respect. I’m smart. I should be on jeopardy.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:41 pm
by Ryan
Just kidding

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:29 am
by Ryan
About 97% of last night

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:33 am
by mister d
I assume St. Vincent was the only winner I listen to and I'm really excited to see her 2017 album win an annual award in 2019.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:57 am
by Ryan

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:06 am
by BSF21
mister d wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:33 am I assume St. Vincent was the only winner I listen to and I'm really excited to see her 2017 album win an annual award in 2019.
I almost had to email my brother to tell him about that performance with her and Dua Lipa. Dear g-d.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:35 pm
by Pruitt
All you need to know about the Grammys is the fact that 11 of the past 21 awards for Best Reggae Album went to sons of Bob Marley and last night's went to Sting.

That is reggae as chosen by people who do not listen to reggae.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:19 pm
by rass
Shaggy wrote:It *was* me this time!

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:36 pm
by brian
All you need to know about the Grammys is that fucking Greta Van Fleet won one.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:04 pm
by BSF21
brian wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:36 pm All you need to know about the Grammys is that fucking Greta Van Fleet won one.
I have never listened to them but I understand there's some controversy around them. Giff went bonkers on it one time on FB. Something about them copying Led Zeppelin...which would make them the 93849th band to do so? I don't get it.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:10 pm
by brian
BSF21 wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:04 pm
brian wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:36 pm All you need to know about the Grammys is that fucking Greta Van Fleet won one.
I have never listened to them but I understand there's some controversy around them. Giff went bonkers on it one time on FB. Something about them copying Led Zeppelin...which would make them the 93849th band to do so? I don't get it.
People can like what they like and it's not my cup of tea to listen to a band that basically just rips off Zeppelin, but that's not even really my beef honestly. I just don't see how any fan of rock music can argue with a straight face that this album was really the best rock album of 2018. It's just not possible (even accounting for the way that the Grammys divide and sub-divide genres).

I don't think that the people who vote on the Grammys even listen to music.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:23 pm
by BSF21
brian wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:10 pm
BSF21 wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:04 pm
brian wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:36 pm All you need to know about the Grammys is that fucking Greta Van Fleet won one.
I have never listened to them but I understand there's some controversy around them. Giff went bonkers on it one time on FB. Something about them copying Led Zeppelin...which would make them the 93849th band to do so? I don't get it.
People can like what they like and it's not my cup of tea to listen to a band that basically just rips off Zeppelin, but that's not even really my beef honestly. I just don't see how any fan of rock music can argue with a straight face that this album was really the best rock album of 2018. It's just not possible (even accounting for the way that the Grammys divide and sub-divide genres).

I don't think that the people who vote on the Grammys even listen to music.
I admittedly don't listen to a lot of "new" music. I still don't know who Cardi B is. I watched last night, and her performance was great and then she won an award and got in front of the mic and sounded like a third grader (maybe the emotion of the moment, idk). Every rap album that was nominated was auto-tuned. They had at least 3 performances that had the everloving SHIT auto-tuned of them. I don't know why a Post Malone is a thing.

I hate to be all get off my lawn. I love Childish Gambino's stuff. I dug the hell out of Brandi Carslile and to a certain point Kacey Musgraves is alright (Margo Price was robbed!). I can't name you a new rock band in the last 5 years I can really think of.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:48 pm
by mister d
Weird dichotomy between Brandi Carlile and Randy Carlyle yesterday, huh?

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:21 pm
by GoodKarma
brian wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:10 pm
BSF21 wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:04 pm
brian wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:36 pm All you need to know about the Grammys is that fucking Greta Van Fleet won one.
I have never listened to them but I understand there's some controversy around them. Giff went bonkers on it one time on FB. Something about them copying Led Zeppelin...which would make them the 93849th band to do so? I don't get it.
People can like what they like and it's not my cup of tea to listen to a band that basically just rips off Zeppelin, but that's not even really my beef honestly. I just don't see how any fan of rock music can argue with a straight face that this album was really the best rock album of 2018. It's just not possible (even accounting for the way that the Grammys divide and sub-divide genres).

I don't think that the people who vote on the Grammys even listen to music.
Don't disagree with you that the people who vote on the Grammys don't actually listen to any of the music.

However, I'm on board with Greta Van Fleet. They're not HOF'ers but I don't think they're terrible. I don't know what other rock album was any better...

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:44 pm
by sancarlos
The Grammys barely acknowledge the important music of a given day. When the Beatles were dominating the charts, the Grammys were going to Frank Sinatra et al. They are always behind the times.

I'm not a rap fan but even I recognize that hip hop is the dominant music genre today, and it was barely recognized in the live performances (and they had Post Malone playing with a band of a bunch of 50-somethings).

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:52 pm
by BSF21
sancarlos wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:44 pm The Grammys barely acknowledge the important music of a given day. When the Beatles were dominating the charts, the Grammys were going to Frank Sinatra et al. They are always behind the times.

I'm not a rap fan but even I recognize that hip hop is the dominant music genre today, and it was barely recognized in the live performances (and they had Post Malone playing with a band of a bunch of 50-somethings).
Did we watch the same show?

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:13 pm
by A_B
Even if you did, probably not.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:19 pm
by sancarlos
BSF21 wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:52 pm
sancarlos wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:44 pm The Grammys barely acknowledge the important music of a given day. When the Beatles were dominating the charts, the Grammys were going to Frank Sinatra et al. They are always behind the times.

I'm not a rap fan but even I recognize that hip hop is the dominant music genre today, and it was barely recognized in the live performances (and they had Post Malone playing with a band of a bunch of 50-somethings).
Did we watch the same show?
So, which of these live performances qualify as rap/hip hop? Any of them? That was my point. LINK

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:27 pm
by BSF21
I mean out of the genres represented you had Cardi, Travis Scott, and Post Malone (is that hip hop?).

I suppose I was kind lumping in R&B with hip-hop which give you a few more but perhaps you’re right. Didn’t feel like 19 performances eith so that number is a bit striking. Out of the rap albums you’re missing 2 key possibles in Mac Miller and Childish not being there. Last time year was all Kendrick. Was he there last night?

Also I’m aware Mac is dead just to put it out there. Couldn’t find a way to break that thought up quickly.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:43 pm
by mister d
Rap is objectively relatively bad now and every award should go back and honor someone(s) from the 80s or 90s.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:11 am
by tennbengal
Inthe grammy’s defense, Sinatra was ‘aight.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:59 am
by sancarlos
tennbengal wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:11 am Inthe grammy’s defense, Sinatra was ‘aight.
Sinatra was awarded over 60 Grammys. His peak years were in the 1940s and 1950s. But he only won his FIRST one in 1959.

My favorite bonehead Grammy was the time they gave one to Jethro Tull for the Best Metal Album of the Year,

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:02 pm
by DaveInSeattle
BSF21 wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:23 pm
I hate to be all get off my lawn. I love Childish Gambino's stuff. I dug the hell out of Brandi Carslile and to a certain point Kacey Musgraves is alright (Margo Price was robbed!). I can't name you a new rock band in the last 5 years I can really think of.
Its crazy that Margo Price was nominated for 'Best New Artist' when she's got 2 albums out, and I've seen her in concert twice in the last couple of years.

Speaking of Price, did you see this article in the Post about her?

A country music artist navigates an art form altered by America’s poisoned politics
Politics
A country music artist navigates an art form altered by America’s poisoned politics

Country music singer Margo Price received a Grammy nomination for best new artist. (Matt McClain/The Washington Post)
By Greg Jaffe February 9
NASHVILLE — The stadium was filling up with fans for a late-season pro football game when Margo Price took up her spot at midfield for a pregame sound check.

Two weeks earlier she had scored a best new artist Grammy nomination. Now she was about to sing the national anthem — a slot typically reserved at Titans’ games for some of country music’s rising stars and its biggest names.

Price’s invitation, though, came with a warning.

“I’m sure you’ll be respectful of our anthem and not pull any shenanigans,” the Titans’ representative told her as she stepped onto the field. Price, 35, waited a moment for the team rep to amble away. A button emblazoned with the word “feminist” was pinned to her black leather jacket and glinted in the midday sun. “My reputation precedes me,” she said.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:18 pm
by brian
sancarlos wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:59 am
tennbengal wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:11 am Inthe grammy’s defense, Sinatra was ‘aight.
Sinatra was awarded over 60 Grammys. His peak years were in the 1940s and 1950s. But he only won his FIRST one in 1959.

My favorite bonehead Grammy was the time they gave one to Jethro Tull for the Best Metal Album of the Year,
Which they then continued to fuck up by giving Metallica a Grammy for every subsequent album they released, almost all of which were crap (or flawed at best).

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:23 pm
by L-Jam3
sancarlos wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:59 am
tennbengal wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:11 am Inthe grammy’s defense, Sinatra was ‘aight.
Sinatra was awarded over 60 Grammys. His peak years were in the 1940s and 1950s. But he only won his FIRST one in 1959.

My favorite bonehead Grammy was the time they gave one to Jethro Tull for the Best Metal Album of the Year,
Look, if you don't think you metal hardest when you add flutes then we just can't be friends.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:23 pm
by sancarlos
Love Margo Price. But, as the Dixie Chicks learned, the country industry leans very far right.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:47 pm
by Rush2112
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(Crest of A Knave isn't really that great of an album...and I would have given that Grammy to Nothing's Shocking if we're awarding it to nominated albums.)

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:16 pm
by DaveInSeattle
sancarlos wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:23 pm Love Margo Price. But, as the Dixie Chicks learned, the country industry leans very far right.
And very anti-women, in general. It talks about all of that in that article, along with mentioning Swamp favorites Sturgill Simpson and Jason Isbell.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 4:51 pm
by Pruitt
Headline from a story in the Post today:
Major influencers react to the James Charles-Tati Westbrook YouTube feud
???

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 4:58 pm
by sancarlos
Awhile back, we did a joint vacation along with another family - four adults and four kids. The other family introduced us to a parlor game called Celebrity, wherein you try to quickly guess the identity of "Celebrities" with very limited clues. I thought it was hilarious that the kids had only heard of about half the celebrities submitted by the adults, and the adults had only heard of less than half of the celebrities submitted by the kids - NONE of the Youtube "celebrities".

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 5:01 pm
by Johnnie
Pruitt wrote: Tue May 14, 2019 4:51 pm Headline from a story in the Post today:
Major influencers react to the James Charles-Tati Westbrook YouTube feud
???
Male makeup artists at that.

Every time you look at trending videos those dudes' videos are on there.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 8:02 pm
by Pruitt
Johnnie wrote: Tue May 14, 2019 5:01 pm
Pruitt wrote: Tue May 14, 2019 4:51 pm Headline from a story in the Post today:
Major influencers react to the James Charles-Tati Westbrook YouTube feud
???
Male makeup artists at that.

Every time you look at trending videos those dudes' videos are on there.
There was a time - and a time that lasted about 20 years, up until the time I became a stay at home dad, when I was pretty cool. i knew what the trends were...

But if a feud between make-up artists makes the front page of the Washington post's website... maybe being out of touch isn't so bad.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:16 pm
by P.D.X.
wtf is cancel culture

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:31 pm
by L-Jam3
P.D.X. wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:16 pm wtf is cancel culture
People getting mad when assholes they like get their comeuppance.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:40 pm
by mister d
"Consequences for famous people"

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:00 pm
by sancarlos
Restaurants they like getting called out for being bigots.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:31 am
by mister d
mister d wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:13 amKenan Thompson is the worst and I will [turns and stares directly into the camera to deliver the punch line] not accept any arguments there.

Re: Cultural Blind Spots

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:49 am
by Pruitt
mister d wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:31 am
mister d wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:13 amKenan Thompson is the worst and I will [turns and stares directly into the camera to deliver the punch line] not accept any arguments there.
He's like "Gummo" in that picture.

(Now there's an old reference)