2015 NCAA Tournament Thread

Post by **brian** » Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:16 pm

LOL.

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LooooooioooooL.

HDO45331 · Post by **HDO45331** » Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:23 pm

sancarlos wrote:This is the first time I've ever said this: Go, Duke and Kentucky! Because, if they both win, I win all three pools I'm in (including the Swamp pool.)

Sorry. In more ways than one.

A vertically challenged old CPA, who watched a total of 5-10 minutes of basketball prior to the tournament, wins it.

Whodathunkit?

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:29 pm

How are all the new Wisconsin fans going to feel when they get their ass kicked by a different group of one and dones on Monday?

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:38 pm

HDO45331 wrote:
sancarlos wrote:This is the first time I've ever said this: Go, Duke and Kentucky! Because, if they both win, I win all three pools I'm in (including the Swamp pool.)
Sorry. In more ways than one.

A vertically challenged old CPA, who watched a total of 5-10 minutes of basketball prior to the tournament, wins it.

Whodathunkit?

Wisconsin connection, or just preternatually good gambler?

If it's the latter, let's talk about setting up a new hedge fun around your astonishing skills. Or at least setting you up in Brian's neighborhood, with a T1 line and a set of trusted runners.

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:40 pm

Joe K wrote:How are all the new Wisconsin fans going to feel when they get their ass kicked by a different group of one and dones on Monday?

I think most would feel pretty good, even so. Especially the ones who grew up there. Modest midwesterners and all. Also, they are killing betting pools, all around the world. Ironically, all but the ones based in Wisconsin.

When is the last time Wisconsin even made the finals? I'm sure it has not been in my lifetime, as the Wisconsin roots on my mothers' side makes me sensitive to this.

duff · Post by **duff** » Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:50 pm

brian wrote:John Calipari. Most overrated coach in history?

Hope the Cavs/LeBron get their wish and he jumps skip to the NBA. So glad to see him lose. Very good game, and Towns is a beast. This was the first full Kentucky game I had watched all season. Towns should have had the ball in his hand every time down the court.

Post by **brian** » Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:51 pm

I'm sure all if the Harrisons et al will be back next year for another run.

Post by **brian** » Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:56 pm

The sad/funny thing here is seeing all these people with obviously meager incomes wandering around aimlessly after the game. Gonna be a long weekend fuckos.

howard · Post by **howard** » Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:59 pm

1941 they won it all. 39-34 over Washington State. Bunch of white guys, no doubt.

duff · Post by **duff** » Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:02 pm

I suggested to a friend of mine in Indy to score some strange from the years of Kentucky fans or the jubilation of Wisconsin. He claimed to be sick, and I told him to fuck off and get out there. I have to live vicariously through him.

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:26 pm

howard wrote:1941 they won it all. 39-34 over Washington State. Bunch of white guys, no doubt.

Perhaps even both sides. In the entire tournament. That was before blacks learned to jump so good, though it was after they developed excellent rhythm.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:30 am

Rex wrote:It's kind of crazy that neither this Wisconsin team nor this Duke team will win the national title. Geno can kiss my ass.

Still can't believe I had to stoop that low.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:36 am

Rex wrote:
Rex wrote:It's kind of crazy that neither this Wisconsin team nor this Duke team will win the national title. Geno can kiss my ass.

Still can't believe I had to stoop that low.

I think Duke is going to win surprisingly easily tomorrow night. They've cruised through the tournament so far, and if Winslow and Okafor can even play Kaminsky and Dekker to a draw, I think Duke has a big advantage in guard play. And Winslow is pretty much the ideal player to match up with Dekker.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:17 pm

Suck it Cal....

I think it should be a pretty evenly matched game tomorrow night. I'll certainly be pulling for Bucky.

Even with those god-awful shorts. The fanny-pack look!

Bensell · Post by **Bensell** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:19 pm

I really thought UK was going to win when they came back to take the lead with 5 or 6 minutes left, but a bunch of wasted possessions and a bullshit no call on the shot clock violation let Wisconsin win it. They deserve all the credit and I hope they kick the shit out of Duke tonight.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 9:54 pm

Anyone else watching the Patriot League tournament finals?

howard · Post by **howard** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 9:56 pm

Out of the corner of my eye. Giants' opening game on the deuce.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:01 pm

I only flipped over once an almost meaningless Rangers game ended. They did this to themselves.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:05 pm

For future consideration: If Duke loses because the guy with the cool girl's name won't look for better players, will he get the same treatment Grant got after Notre Dame's loss?

howard · Post by **howard** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:13 pm

They called the shot-clock vio tonight.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:16 pm

They need SNICKO for this review

howard · Post by **howard** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:18 pm

Wow, for a championship to rest upon such a super-slo-mo replay, err, nevermind.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:27 pm

What a dumb ending to a good tourney.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:46 pm

I'm probably one of the only Kentucky fans who was rooting for Duke to win tonight, and that game played out almost exactly how I was hoping it would. After seeing how much glee all the Kentucky haters took in Wisconsin winning on Saturday, I enjoyed seeing them lose a game where 88% of Duke's points came from freshmen McDonald's All-Americans.

Post by **brian** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:37 am

I bet all my money on Duke so I'm good. I don't have allegiance beyond my money usually and this tournament was a good investment.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:43 am

Bo Ryan whining about "rent a players" and the officiating post-game was not a good look. Yeah, the two missed out of bounds calls late were harsh, but Wisconsin also benefited from Okafor and Winslow being in foul trouble for most of that game.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:19 am

"Cry me a river, you fat fucking baby!"

howard · Post by **howard** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:34 am

mister d wrote:"Cry me a river, you fat fucking baby!"

The brian/bfj fight is in the thread over there >>>>>>>>>>>>>

Post by **Shirley** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:23 am

Joe K wrote:Bo Ryan whining about "rent a players" and the officiating post-game was not a good look. Yeah, the two missed out of bounds calls late were harsh, but Wisconsin also benefited from Okafor and Winslow being in foul trouble for most of that game.

Yeah, I was surprised and disappointed with Ryan. I get that right after a game is an emotional time, but he's been around the block enough times that I think he knows how to handle himself.

Yes, the refs missed two calls late in that game - and I can't understand how they missed the one where they watched the replay over and over - but those weren't even the calls he whined about. Somehow the Big Ten coach thought the finesse ACC team was too physical?

howard · Post by **howard** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:37 am

Mitt Romney's March Madness bracket was astoundingly good

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:40 am

... because the white teams did really well.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:24 pm

Sorry, you beat 11.5 million people in ESPN's bracket..but you can't win the grand prize.
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DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:24 pm

So, you can rent a DeLorean now in Chicago?

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:27 pm

The Sybian wrote:
Rex wrote:Yes, that's normal. When Duke is eliminated in a game where Okafor scores 30, you'll see why.
Too Long; Not Going to Watch.

I'd rather someone spoon feed me. Does this mean an enormous glut of talent at center for the future of the NBA, or are more Euros and Soutg American centers going to emerge? This whole no center thing is blowing my mind.

How did that whole using a center thing work out for Duke?

Serious question, but with teams playing 3 guards and no center, why do the scores seem so much lower than they did 10 or 20 years ago?

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:28 pm

The Sybian wrote:
The Sybian wrote:
Rex wrote:Yes, that's normal. When Duke is eliminated in a game where Okafor scores 30, you'll see why.
Too Long; Not Going to Watch.

I'd rather someone spoon feed me. Does this mean an enormous glut of talent at center for the future of the NBA, or are more Euros and Soutg American centers going to emerge? This whole no center thing is blowing my mind.
How did that whole using a center thing work out for Duke?

Serious question, but with teams playing 3 guards and no center, why do the scores seem so much lower than they did 10 or 20 years ago?

Possessions per game are at an all time low, defense is allowed to be played quite physically and other factors

Post by **Shirley** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:01 pm

The Sybian wrote:How did that whole using a center thing work out for Duke?

Serious question, but with teams playing 3 guards and no center, why do the scores seem so much lower than they did 10 or 20 years ago?

It's probably not a coincidence that Okafar had a pretty lousy tournament and yet Duke played their best ball of the year.

Lower scores are mostly due to trends - slow play is in these days - and increasing focus on defense. Also offensive efficiency. Teams want to be efficient (offensively and defensively), which often means slowing down a bit and being more careful. This produces fewer possessions and that's really really what's driving the lower scores.

I think you'll probably start to see a rise in teams bucking the trends and going the other way. So few teams press now that the ones that do cause a lot of problems. It's just that those teams generally get killed by the really good teams who play efficiently.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:02 pm

The Sybian wrote:
The Sybian wrote:
Rex wrote:Yes, that's normal. When Duke is eliminated in a game where Okafor scores 30, you'll see why.
Too Long; Not Going to Watch.

I'd rather someone spoon feed me. Does this mean an enormous glut of talent at center for the future of the NBA, or are more Euros and Soutg American centers going to emerge? This whole no center thing is blowing my mind.
How did that whole using a center thing work out for Duke?

Serious question, but with teams playing 3 guards and no center, why do the scores seem so much lower than they did 10 or 20 years ago?

Duke played better with Okafor on the bench than in the game, which was actually the pattern for most of the season.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:11 pm

Shirley wrote:
The Sybian wrote:How did that whole using a center thing work out for Duke?

Serious question, but with teams playing 3 guards and no center, why do the scores seem so much lower than they did 10 or 20 years ago?
It's probably not a coincidence that Okafar had a pretty lousy tournament and yet Duke played their best ball of the year.

Lower scores are mostly due to trends - slow play is in these days - and increasing focus on defense. Also offensive efficiency. Teams want to be efficient (offensively and defensively), which often means slowing down a bit and being more careful. This produces fewer possessions and that's really really what's driving the lower scores.

I also think it is easier from a recruiting standpoint (or "better" to remain on more equal footing with their competition) for coaches to get greater athletes and coach them on defense while hoping they improve on offense as opposed to getting better basketball players who cannot quite compete athletically. I think defensive scheme is often used to overcome deficiencies on offense by keeping the score down. And with the "can't call every foul" defense allowed to flourish, why not?

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:38 am

Rex wrote:Such a huge disconnect here between the chatter and what is actually happening. The ratings are through the roof--the early rounds of the Tournament now rival the World Series and the NBA Finals (both of which are shown entirely on over the air television), and the Final Four blows away everything that is not football or a Game 7.

Whoa, and I was just talking out of my ass here...

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2015/04 ... h-madness/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **Shirley** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:57 am

Rex wrote:
Rex wrote:Such a huge disconnect here between the chatter and what is actually happening. The ratings are through the roof--the early rounds of the Tournament now rival the World Series and the NBA Finals (both of which are shown entirely on over the air television), and the Final Four blows away everything that is not football or a Game 7.

Whoa, and I was just talking out of my ass here...

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2015/04 ... h-madness/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If only the game weren't completely broken.

BTW, why does anyone care what Mark Cuban thinks about college basketball? He doesn't watch it and his only interest is in how it serves as an NBA minor league - so for only about 50-100 or so of the roughly 5,000 players playing D1 ball at any time.