2016 Presidential Race

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:01 am

I'm loath to defend Donald Trump, but the way Mr. Wade spells his first name is fucking stupid.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:45 am

brian wrote:It's mind-boggling how little shame he has. I don't think he understands that blacks aren't so stupid that they don't immediate recognize it as pandering at best, not to mention insanely racist. If he were smarter I'd think he was doing it solely to dog-whistle to racist whites.

He has been doing this dog whistling the entire time, and Breitbart dude is only going to make it worse. It's very intentional.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:20 pm

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:31 pm

Trump campaign surrogate:

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:37 am

Heh. Limbaugh gets called out by a conservative over the Trump immigration flip-flop:

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:06 am

Inside debate prep: Clinton’s careful case vs. Trump’s ‘WrestleMania’

Hillary Clinton is methodically preparing for the presidential debates as a veteran lawyer would approach her biggest trial. She pores over briefing books thick with policy arcana and opposition research. She internalizes tips from the most seasoned debate coaches in her party. And she rehearses, over and over again, to perfect the pacing and substance of her presentation.

Donald Trump is taking a different approach. He summons his informal band of counselors — including former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, talk-radio host Laura Ingraham and ousted Fox News Channel chairman Roger Ailes — to his New Jersey golf course for Sunday chats. Over bacon cheeseburgers, hot dogs and glasses of Coca-Cola, they test out zingers and chew over ways to refine the Republican nominee’s pitch.

Trump’s aides have put together briefing books, not that the candidate is devoting much time to reading them. Trump is not holding any mock debates, proudly boasting that a performer with his talents does not need that sort of prepping. Should Trump submit to traditional rehearsals, some associates are talking about casting Ingraham, an adversarial chronicler of Clinton scandals, to play the Democratic nominee.

Donald Trump...Always willing to put in a hard days work!

And a 70 year old dude eating bacon cheeseburgers? And he questions Hillary's health and stamina? Projection much?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:50 am

Bacon cheeseburgers range from unnecessary to bad.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:26 pm

mister d wrote:Bacon cheeseburgers range from unnecessary to bad...

...to delicious!

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:42 pm

DaveInSeattle wrote: And a 70 year old dude eating bacon cheeseburgers? And he questions Hillary's health and stamina? Projection much?

And you know he its them with a knife and fork.

Post by **Shirley** » Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:14 pm

mister d wrote:Bacon cheeseburgers range from unnecessary to bad.

Worst post in Swamp history?

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:17 pm

Shirley wrote:
mister d wrote:Bacon cheeseburgers range from unnecessary to bad.
Worst post in Swamp history?

SAD!

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:18 pm

Shirley wrote:
mister d wrote:Bacon cheeseburgers range from unnecessary to bad.
Worst post in Swamp history?

This is Kaepernick-level shit, indeed.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:51 pm

I agree with mister d. Bacon's amazing, but I don't want it on my burger and definitely not on my tacos.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:53 pm

Thank you! Bacon is great, but that doesn't make it great everywhere. It detracts from a good burger.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:49 pm

LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT

(who puts the bacon on the bottom?)

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:09 pm

If you aren't cool with a green chile bacon double cheeseburger with onions and mushrooms, then I'm not sure how American you really are.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:00 am

I don't know what could possibly already be on a burger that would make me say "no, please do not mask that flavor with bacon" Seriously, fuck you for this.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:06 am

Burgers without bacon are great. Bacon overwhelms the other flavors. Bacon is not necessary on an already great burger.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:16 am

OK, Hillary

Post by **brian** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:17 am

I'm going to tread a middle ground here and say more is not always better.

Similar to toppings on a pizza, if you put more than about three or so toppings on a pizza I think you're dumb because at a certain point you're just eating a stew.

So it is with hamburgers -- to wit -- a good bacon cheeseburger is fine as long as bacon is pretty much the sole addition to the burger (beyond your standard trinity of onions, tomatoes and lettuce). If you're one of these people who throws mushrooms and three kinds of aioli and jalapeños and avocado again, in my opinion just kinda dumb. A good hamburger should have about three additional items on it.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:29 am

Bingo. To pick on Johnnie's example (while ignoring the construction issues), the green chiles and the cheese are all you need. Marginal utility and all that.

This is a burger at a place I like very much: THE CAROLINA BURGER 13 - angus burger, jalapeno-pimento cheese, bread & butter pickles, applewood bacon

I get it without bacon* because it is a better, more balanced burger without the bacon.

* I get the bacon on the side and it gets eaten

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:44 am

mister d wrote:Bingo. To pick on Johnnie's example (while ignoring the construction issues), the green chiles and the cheese are all you need. Marginal utility and all that.

This is a burger at a place I like very much: THE CAROLINA BURGER 13 - angus burger, jalapeno-pimento cheese, bread & butter pickles, applewood bacon

I get it without bacon* because it is a better, more balanced burger without the bacon.

* I get the bacon on the side and it gets eaten

With the asterisk sentence, I am on board. The value added eating the bacon on the side is greater than the value mixed with all those other ingredients. The bacon-to-bacon enjoyment is greater eating the bacon on the side, and the enjoyment of the cheese and burger components is greater than those components with the bacon; even if you consider the overall burger better with the bacon.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:47 am

He's throwing smokebombs to divert from his original statement, that a simple bacon cheeseburger is unnecessary at best, and YOU'RE LETTING HIM OFF THE HOOK

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:50 am

Rereading, that should probably say "on" to capture my true feelings. If I go to Wendy's, bacon makes sense. If I get a good burger like the one listed above or Johnnie's or just with really good beef, bacon is dumb.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:52 am

You know, I was going to agree with Brian (especially about too many toppings on pizza), and really, the last five or six posts all make good sense, but ultimately I'm persuaded by Ryan's impenetrable logic. Hang him.

Post by **Sabo** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:56 am

This thread is a fun read:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1677

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:42 am

Wait, when did everybody turn BSF from a staunch Indiana conservative into a damn hippie? That just hit me.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:47 am

Gunpowder wrote:Wait, when did everybody turn BSF from a staunch Indiana conservative into a damn hippie? That just hit me.

I'm certainly much different now than I was 10 years ago, but I don't think I was ever too staunch a conservative. I've always had fairly conservative fiscal leanings (other than the whole "deregulate everything, those big businesses will keep us all under their wing"), but the more life experience I have and the more people I meet that provide me new outlooks, the more socially liberal I've become.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:03 pm

Sean Hannity moves into the "Anger" stage of grief...

Well, let me just say to all of you. And that includes the commentator class. That includes the Jonah Goldberg class, that includes radio talk show hosts. Glenn Beck is like on a — it's a holy war for him at this point. I mean, he's off the rails attacking me every day. Blaming me for Trump. Well, no. I was fair to everybody, Glenn. Whether you want to admit it or not. I know I was fair. My conscience is clear. And I, frankly, I'm proud to pull the lever for Donald Trump with a clear conscience.

[…]

"So here's what I say to all of you Never Trumpers — Glenn Beck, I hope you're listening. You own Hillary Clinton's Supreme Court appointments. You own it! You are doing everything you can do to cast doubt in people's minds! Trump gave us a list. You own her Supreme Court nominees, you own her un-vetted refugees and the 550% increase she will bring into this country. You own the jobs that illegal immigrants will take from the 95 million Americans out of the labor force. You own Obamacare, which is a disaster for this country. You own education because she is beholden to the NEA [National Education Association]. And if we don't improve the lives of 95 million Americans out of the labor force, I blame you for that, too!

Ahh....never change Lumpy. Never change.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:30 pm

So Hannity is worth $35MM, money he made in AMERICA, and he's complaining about its present state? Maybe he should just get the fuck out.

testuser2 · Post by **testuser2** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:48 pm

mister d wrote: This is a burger at a place I like very much: THE CAROLINA BURGER 13 - angus burger, jalapeno-pimento cheese, bread & butter pickles, applewood bacon

You monster. Nothing upsets me more than biting into those weak ass imitation pickles. I still have flashbacks of a pickleback I had with bread & butter juice.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:08 pm

Their sweetness is perfect for this burger. Trust your boy D.

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:22 pm

So Trump is going to Mexico because he received an invitation that the Prez of Mexico never thought he'd accept. This campaign is a Seinfeld episode.

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:48 pm

"You guys are wrong that bacon can make a burger better but trust me, these pickles you hate are great on this burger" is just about peak mister d, right?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:52 pm

Stirling Hotel. Put your money (inside the little check folder thing when you're done eating, having just shoved my slightly modified version of that burger) where your mouth is.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:56 pm

This last page?

TWILTS

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:58 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote:This last page?

TWILTS

You ever imagine a lurker or passerby finding a thread like that and opening the most recent page?

- Donald Trump/HRC yadda yadda
- Brian: "Boo BernieBroz"
- "But fuck bacon on burgers right?"
- yea!
- wtf?
- bread and butter pickles are underrated
- fuck you
- fite me irl

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:50 pm

Getting back on track, human bread and butter pickle, Donald Trump seems to have had a successful trip to Mexico.

howard · Post by **howard** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:58 pm

mister d wrote: * I get the bacon on the side and it gets eaten

This does not end the discussion/argument. But it is enough to call off the lynching. Barely.

Post by **brian** » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:07 pm

Johnnie wrote:Getting back on track, human bread and butter pickle, Donald Trump seems to have had a successful trip to Mexico.

Right up until a couple hours after the presser when El Presidente called Trump a liar about their discussion about the wall.