Large caches of data stolen from online cheating site AshleyMadison.com have been posted online by an individual or group that claims to have completely compromised the company’s user databases, financial records and other proprietary information. The still-unfolding leak could be quite damaging to some 37 million users of the hookup service, whose slogan is “Life is short. Have an affair.”
Whether you accept these type of business or abhor them, it is worrying that it is being hacked. What else could be hacked?
Kung Fu movies are like porn. There's 1 on 1, then 2 on 1, then a group scene..
Divorce lawyers everywhere are foaming at the mouth.
And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness. - God
Is it just for married people looking for married people?
Or it is also for single people looking for married people. Like a girl who wants a sugar daddy or a housewife who wants a young buck. or vice versa. There are lots of possible scenarios.
What are eharmony's numbers?
Kung Fu movies are like porn. There's 1 on 1, then 2 on 1, then a group scene..
Jerloma wrote:Divorce lawyers everywhere are foaming at the mouth.
This would seem to be quite the marriage stressor - yes.
Chedda surfaced to run victory laps yet?
I'm busy lamenting the fact that the new Florida bar prez recommended reciprocity for a state already inundated with attorneys.
Stuff like this leak, gay marriage, etc. that would seem to point towards a spike in divorces likely just speed up the process of people breaking up anyways.
Until everything is less insane, I'm mixing weed with wine.
mister d wrote:Anyone else had the "37 million people??? Who the fuck uses this service???" discussion with friends?
36.99 million men, nine women.
Didn't they recently lose a lawsuit or someone leaked that a huge number of female accounts were fake and operated by employees? If true, I wonder if those accounts are part of the 37Million. I could also see people making accounts to troll and see if anyone they knew was on the site, or checking to see if their spouse was on the site.
An honest to God cult of personality - formed around a failed steak salesman.
-Pruitt
Pruitt wrote:37 million does seem like a ridiculously inflated number. No one I know has ever been on the site.
I doubt that. Just saying. Something like 50% of marriages end in divorce. Someone you know has used it. Or Kik. Or Tinder. Or Craigslist. Or Backpage. Without knowledge of their spouse. Even if they were just looking or curious.
"Wow, what a crazy story, huh? Sure hope I didn't get hacked. Or have my credit card info stolen. And hope those hackers or stealers didn't use my name and picture. And my sexual preferences. Haha, can you imagine that? I can't. But I guess I could. I bet it could happen. Pretty easily. Would be just my luck too, right? Did I tell you I got a new credit card a few months back? Maybe even more that a few months ago. Maybe 2012? I don't know. Time flies. Are you still going away for work next week?"
Johnnie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:13 pmOh shit, you just reminded me about toilet paper.
It's plausible. Once they started showing the VORS of each participant, membership took off. The thing I never understood was how they established the Replacement Spouse value in the first place. Guess that's one of those new-fangled big data things I'll never fully understand.
4.. Anonymous internet posters have already discovered the email address of at least one public figure. In subsequent posts, they identify this person’s partner. This person has been confronted on Twitter; I would not be surprised if the partner is currently getting alarming emails from strangers. This happened almost instantly after the leak.
5. On 4chan, and on Twitter, users are posting plain, searchable chunks of the data. There appear to be ongoing attempts to make the data much more easily available. It seems very likely that there will be a way for curious, non-technically-inclined people to search for the names of friends, spouses, partners, or anyone else very soon.
6. We associate the cost of hacks mostly with identity theft and financial loss, from which most victims are pretty well insulated. Target assessed the cost of that hack at $148 million; outside financial institutions added another $200 million to that figure. You may know someone affected by that hack, but the resulting damages were likely mostly absorbed by their bank or credit card company. It was unsettling, yes, but it wasn’t widely ruinous.
7. This, on the other hand, is basically unprecedented? Most leaks of this size don’t implicate people in anything aside from patronizing major companies. This is new territory in terms of personal cost. The Ashley Madison hack is in some ways the first large scale real hack, in the popular, your-secrets-are-now-public sense of the word. It is plausible—likely?—that you will know someone in or affected by this dump.
8. Most of the responses and acknowledgements I’m reading now are either straight news stories or… jokes? I’m not sure anyone is really reckoning with how big this could be, yet. If the data becomes as public and available as seems likely right now, we’re talking about tens of millions of people who will be publicly confronted with choices they thought they made in private. The result won’t just be getting caught, it will be getting caught in an incredibly visible way that could conceivably follow victims around the internet for years.
9. Such a scenario would present a number of new questions for many more internet users— questions the nature of which they’ve never really had to deal with. If the names and email addresses are available in a simple Google-like search, for example, will they search for their partners? Friends? Coworkers? Representatives? Family members? If so, why? If not, why not? Will you seek out the raw leak data after reading this post? Will news organizations, presented with user profiles associated with public figures, ask for comment? Treat each as news? Which ones? How? The last time people dealt with similar questions on a large scale was when troves of internal Sony documents, including emails, were leaked. Before that, it was when hundreds of private celebrity photos were stolen and released last year. That act was widely denounced, as were the millions of subsequent acts by the people who viewed the photos. But enough people looked at these photos to set traffic records for sites like Reddit. In any case, an incredible number of ethical questions are posed by this situation...
While I'm not going to dismiss the overarching issues at play here which are quite grim, I still think this data is far from accessible to a "lay" person and the end result, at least to most people, will be much ado about nothing.
Put another way, I don't have an account, so I don't have anything to worry about, but assume if I did, my wife is still nowhere near technically adept enough to look up if I'm in there. Nor, would I expect, are 90-95 percent of people at least with the data in its current form. And if you assume that only a relatively small number of people even with the wherewithal are going to bother, then...like I said, much ado about nothing.
Giving really bad people access to some of this data, esp. the credit card data is pretty bad though.
brian wrote:While I'm not going to dismiss the overarching issues at play here which are quite grim, I still think this data is far from accessible to a "lay" person and the end result, at least to most people, will be much ado about nothing.
Put another way, I don't have an account, so I don't have anything to worry about, but assume if I did, my wife is still nowhere near technically adept enough to look up if I'm in there. Nor, would I expect, are 90-95 percent of people at least with the data in its current form. And if you assume that only a relatively small number of people even with the wherewithal are going to bother, then...like I said, much ado about nothing.
Giving really bad people access to some of this data, esp. the credit card data is pretty bad though.
Right. I can't either.
But...apparently there are efforts underway to make the data immediately searchable even to dolts like me.
wlu_lax6 wrote:So the data is now being released and there are 6,788 us.army.mil addresses, for example, another 1,665 navy.mil ones, and 809 usmc.mil.
Now I'm curious how many us.af.mil email addresses there are. Searches just turned up a generic "15,000" number, but only specified what you stated.
Also worth noting, adultery is punishable under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, article 134. There is no "separated" distinction in the military. You're either "single," "married," or "divorced" when it comes to your record/profile. So, assuming you used a government computer as a married person to knowingly have sexual relations outside of your marriage, you could be throwing your career away. Or rather having it removed from you because of this data dump.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
brian wrote:While I'm not going to dismiss the overarching issues at play here which are quite grim, I still think this data is far from accessible to a "lay" person and the end result, at least to most people, will be much ado about nothing.
Put another way, I don't have an account, so I don't have anything to worry about, but assume if I did, my wife is still nowhere near technically adept enough to look up if I'm in there. Nor, would I expect, are 90-95 percent of people at least with the data in its current form. And if you assume that only a relatively small number of people even with the wherewithal are going to bother, then...like I said, much ado about nothing.
Giving really bad people access to some of this data, esp. the credit card data is pretty bad though.
Right. I can't either.
But...apparently there are efforts underway to make the data immediately searchable even to dolts like me.
With that much data, even if it weren't only on the dark net right now....that's still a tall order. Someone would basically have to dump it into a database and make it searchable and I doubt any reputable website would allow that to be posted on their site. I suppose it could end up somewhere in some corner of the internet but again, I wouldn't worry.
The funniest thing about this whole thing is that if you want to really have an affair, there's literally dozens more reputable sites that actually have women on them that are free like Tinder or OKCupid or PlentyOfFish or...etc., etc.
ETA: In most cases you'd have to have a more moral flexibility about your martial status (AKA -- you'd probably have to lie), but if you're already going to have an affair that doesn't seem like such a hill to climb.
brian wrote:Put another way, I don't have an account, so I don't have anything to worry about ...
This is the part I'm wondering about. Just playing the percentages, some people who legitimately never did anything wrong and have never visited the site will show up on this list (and not be believed since 90% of the people on the lists will claim that's what happened).
Johnnie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:13 pmOh shit, you just reminded me about toilet paper.
brian wrote:
The funniest thing about this whole thing is that if you want to really have an affair, there's literally dozens more reputable sites that actually have women on them that are free like Tinder or OKCupid or PlentyOfFish or...etc., etc.
Anonymity is what AM sells. Can't really "hide" yourself with those other sites and expect anyone to want to meet you. (And I think Tinder is linked to your FB account — or at least it was a couple years back.)
