wlu_lax6 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:07 amThe folks on Hang Up and Listen went after him pretty hard. One of the folks used NBC's inaction as a jumping off point on pointing to NBC's targeting of NFL to conservative America (Country music intro, etc). A bit of jumping off point but one thing to have a personal opinion. Another to spout untrue propaganda.
I agree wholeheartedly with everything Joel Anderson said at the beginning of the segment.
Outsports' Cyd Ziegler had a two-parter on Dungy a couple weeks ago, the second of which is in significant part a series of links to support.
Tony Dungy and James Brown — two main faces of NFL coverage by NBC and CBS — have for years been featured speakers at an event hosted by rabidly anti-gay Christian evangelist Andrew Wommack, who has equated being gay to murder, among many other statements.
The duo will again support Wommack’s ministry this March at an event called “Men’s Advance.” The event is hosted by Wommack at his Charis Bible College in Colorado. The evangelist and his college advance anti-gay and anti-trans beliefs — among other priorities — claiming to root them in Christian doctrine.
Dungy has for years publicly advocated against gay rights. In 2006 — then the successful head coach of the Indianapolis Colts — Dungy raised money to oppose marriage equality for same-sex couples. He has spoken out against gay NBA player Jason Collins’ “lifestyle” and said he wouldn’t want gay player Michael Sam on his team, despite advocating for federally convicted dog-murderer Michael Vick and indicted alleged woman-beater Ray Rice.
NBC’s embrace of Dungy — and their complete silence — despite his clear and long-standing association with anti-gay positions, is in contrast to the public actions and statements other networks and organizations have made in similar situations.
The Cincinnati Reds fired longtime broadcaster Thom Brennaman for a flippant anti-gay slur caught on a hot mic. Despite Brennaman’s apology and years-long embrace of the LGBT community, that one moment has upended his career.
Curt Schilling was quickly fired by ESPN after the World Series champion posted an unflattering image of someone he called transgender and publicly spoke out against trans people.
Yet it’s the demise of the broadcast career of Craig James that parallels Dungy the best (sans Hall of Fame career). James was fired by Fox Sports for speaking out against same-sex marriage years ago.
Dungy has avoided any of that, despite also speaking out against same-sex marriage and decrying homosexuality as a “lifestyle” he doesn’t agree with.
Dungy is a fucking bigot. If he had a public opinion of another minority group, whether people from a specific nation, race, or religion, this wouldn't even be a question. He's a fucking bigot, full stop.
“All I'm sayin' is, he comes near me, I'll put him in the wall.”
It's even more infuriating when the suicide rate among these marginalized groups are higher and this fucker lost a kid to suicide. You'd think he'd be somewhat more sympathetic, but he's the guy who literally copied and pasted his "apology" so fuck him all the way to hell.
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Pruitt IV wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:51 am
Is it pointing to an elephant in the room to mention that Dungy and James Brown are Black?
Firing them might open a whole different discussion.
If you put in the statement of his firing why you are firing him and leave no doubt instead of the boilerplate "going in a different direction/wish him well", it shouldn't be a real problem.
If you don't fire him because you're afraid the right-wing outrage machine is going to turn people against you, you're part of the problem.
“All I'm sayin' is, he comes near me, I'll put him in the wall.”
Giff wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:40 am
It's even more infuriating when the suicide rate among these marginalized groups are higher and this fucker lost a kid to suicide. You'd think he'd be somewhat more sympathetic, but he's the guy who literally copied and pasted his "apology" so fuck him all the way to hell.
I'm not remotely surprised that he doesn't see the connection between his (and others) anti-LGBTQ comments and suicide rates in the LGBTQ community. Dungy has very rigid biblical "Christian" beliefs. He has a long history if say deplorable (in my opinion) things and supporting groups that I strongly oppose. I'm sure Dungy views gay and transgendered people as sinners or mentally ill and thinks he is acting in their best interest so they can live as he believes God intended. Intentions are irrelevant and I would fire him, but I'm not surprised by his lack of awareness.
An honest to God cult of personality - formed around a failed steak salesman.
-Pruitt
Giff wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:40 amIt's even more infuriating when the suicide rate among these marginalized groups are higher and this fucker lost a kid to suicide.
To change means admitting you might have been wrong in the past. Never going to happen.
Johnnie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:13 pmOh shit, you just reminded me about toilet paper.
Giff wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:40 amIt's even more infuriating when the suicide rate among these marginalized groups are higher and this fucker lost a kid to suicide.
To change means admitting you might have been wrong in the past. Never going to happen.
And one thing about true believers is that they see black and they see white (not a racial reference). If it's not in the scripture, then it's wrong.
Giff wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:40 amIt's even more infuriating when the suicide rate among these marginalized groups are higher and this fucker lost a kid to suicide.
To change means admitting you might have been wrong in the past. Never going to happen.
And one thing about true believers is that they see black and they see white (not a racial reference). If it's not in the scripture, then it's wrong.
They often interpret the text (or only adhere to certain parts while disregarding others) so that it matches their specific desires.
“All I'm sayin' is, he comes near me, I'll put him in the wall.”
That's my problem. If you find me someone who adheres 100% to the literal writings, I'll think they're an idiot but I'll judge them far less than someone who carves out little hatred niches while ignoring other stuff.
Johnnie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:13 pmOh shit, you just reminded me about toilet paper.
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:15 pm
That's my problem. If you find me someone who adheres 100% to the literal writings, I'll think they're an idiot but I'll judge them far less than someone who carves out little hatred niches while ignoring other stuff.
10-15 years ago a guy tried to spend a year living exactly by the word off the Bible and wrote a book about it. Pretty ridiculous and funny, Living Biblically maybe? I think they tried to turn it into a sitcom which seemed like a horrible idea.
An honest to God cult of personality - formed around a failed steak salesman.
-Pruitt
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:15 pm
That's my problem. If you find me someone who adheres 100% to the literal writings, I'll think they're an idiot but I'll judge them far less than someone who carves out little hatred niches while ignoring other stuff.
10-15 years ago a guy tried to spend a year living exactly by the word off the Bible and wrote a book about it. Pretty ridiculous and funny, Living Biblically maybe? I think they tried to turn it into a sitcom which seemed like a horrible idea.
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:15 pm
That's my problem. If you find me someone who adheres 100% to the literal writings, I'll think they're an idiot but I'll judge them far less than someone who carves out little hatred niches while ignoring other stuff.
10-15 years ago a guy tried to spend a year living exactly by the word off the Bible and wrote a book about it. Pretty ridiculous and funny, Living Biblically maybe? I think they tried to turn it into a sitcom which seemed like a horrible idea.
Did he stone anybody?
Great question. can’t remember how he got around committing crimes.
An honest to God cult of personality - formed around a failed steak salesman.
-Pruitt
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:15 pm
That's my problem. If you find me someone who adheres 100% to the literal writings, I'll think they're an idiot but I'll judge them far less than someone who carves out little hatred niches while ignoring other stuff.
This is in some way similar to how I feel about anti-abortion folks who agree with exceptions for rape and incest. That has nothing to do with the sanctity of life and only exists destroy bodily autonomy for women. All anti-abortion positions are bad, but at least the no-exceptions people are more consistent.
Pruitt IV wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 6:51 am
Sports commentator for The Blaze?
Someone's career is in freefall.
I had no idea The Blaze still existed. Glenn Beck disappearing from my consciousness is a beautiful thing, although his level of crazy is cute in light of where politics and RW media are today.
An honest to God cult of personality - formed around a failed steak salesman.
-Pruitt
The subject of the interview was Wenner’s new book, “The Masters,” which consists of long-ranging conversations between Wenner and the musicians he finds to be giants in their field, plucked from several decades of Wenner’s tenure at Rolling Stone. Luminaries like Bruce Springsteen, Bono, Jerry Garcia.
The “masters” are all White men. Not a woman or person of color among them. That in itself is noteworthy, but the eye-popping part of the New York Times article happened when the interviewer asked Wenner to explain why.
“Insofar as the women,” Wenner responded, “just none of them were as articulate enough on this intellectual level.”
We can't change what was said, but we can learn from it and take steps to ensure that the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is an institution that truly honors the breadth and depth of contributions to music. I’ve included a few links to interviews so you can educate yourself on artistic articulation. Nina and Joni would run circles around you on their worst day. It’s always difficult when a board removes a founder, but in this case, it’s easy. Kick rocks, buddy.
Went to watch a local high school game and this kid was such a punk. Should've had two techs and finally got benched by his coach after he shushed the crowd when a teammate cut the lead to 11. I'm not real proud of my reaction after he got called for a foul on a fast break layup for an and-1.
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Shushing a crowd when a teammate cuts a lead to 11? The hell with punching him; if you really want to do damage everyone should've just pointed to him and laughed at him. He'd remember that on his deathbed.
My avatar corresponds on my place in the Swamp posting list with the all-time Home Run list. Number 45 is Paul Konerko with 439.
I would like to add that if this message board existed in 1990 and someone who posted here was in the crowd that saw me bow to them after hitting the front end of a 1-and-1, I hope they would have posted about me as well. And I was in 7th grade. And HOT.
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