2015 NL Central playoffs (and NYM/LAD)
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Arrieta should've made a reference to the Giants/Buccos game of 2014/Brandon Crawford.
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No offense to the Pirates, but I'm just hoping whoever wins that games beats the shit out of the Cardinals. If it's Arrieta and Cubs, so be it.
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There's a sense of resignation around these parts as everybody prepares to get Arrieta'd tomorrow night.
The Pirates finished with the second-best record in baseball, but nobody seemed to enjoy the season. I would have enjoyed it a lot more if I had followed the team casually instead of daily. Instead, I suffered thru Hurdle starting Pedro Florimon in a crucial game vs. the Cubs, Jung-Ho Kang's awful injury, Starling Marte and Gregory Polanco doing whatever the fuck it is they do when they try to run the bases, etc. I don't know why I remember the bad stuff more than the good stuff. Am I this jaded already, now that the Pirates have been good for three whole years now? Is this what it's like to be a Yankees fan?
That said, I'm looking forward to the game. I enjoy watching Arrieta. I love late bloomers, and to see an average pitcher become quietly good at 28, then loudly great at 29, is a great story. I just hope that Gerrit Cole is a little better tomorrow night.
The Pirates finished with the second-best record in baseball, but nobody seemed to enjoy the season. I would have enjoyed it a lot more if I had followed the team casually instead of daily. Instead, I suffered thru Hurdle starting Pedro Florimon in a crucial game vs. the Cubs, Jung-Ho Kang's awful injury, Starling Marte and Gregory Polanco doing whatever the fuck it is they do when they try to run the bases, etc. I don't know why I remember the bad stuff more than the good stuff. Am I this jaded already, now that the Pirates have been good for three whole years now? Is this what it's like to be a Yankees fan?
That said, I'm looking forward to the game. I enjoy watching Arrieta. I love late bloomers, and to see an average pitcher become quietly good at 28, then loudly great at 29, is a great story. I just hope that Gerrit Cole is a little better tomorrow night.
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Sometimes? Mostly the 2000s starting pitchers, excluding Mussina. Lots of guys easy to hate even on your team.bapo! wrote:Is this what it's like to be a Yankees fan?
Oh. And sometimes it feels like that now too.bapo! wrote:... Gerrit Cole ...
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I'm still not 100% on-board with Cole, but that has a lot to do with my unrealistic expectations. I want him to be on that Arrieta/Jose Fernandez level, where every start is a must-watch. I mean, it's not a crime to be merely very, very good.
Best thing I can say about Cole: I've seen him get hit hard in the first couple of innings of games this year, then settle in and pitch well thru 7 innings. He didn't do that last year. But if that happens tomorrow, that probably won't be good enough.
Best thing I can say about Cole: I've seen him get hit hard in the first couple of innings of games this year, then settle in and pitch well thru 7 innings. He didn't do that last year. But if that happens tomorrow, that probably won't be good enough.
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Okay, yes, I'm being ridiculous. Thanks for pointing that out. And hey, don't forget Doug Drabek!mister d wrote:"I want someone who makes me forget about John Smiley."
(We've talked about this before, but it's amazing that a team with a history as long and storied as the Pirates has never had a great pitcher. Cole might be that guy.)
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Babe Adams was awesome
he’s a fixbking cyborg or some shit. The
holy fuckbAllZ, what a ducking nightmare. Holy shot. Just, fuck. The
holy fuckbAllZ, what a ducking nightmare. Holy shot. Just, fuck. The
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No matter how good a Cubs pitcher is during the regular season, he can still be counted on to issue seven walks in a playoff game. And the infield can be counted on for errors on successive plays.bapo! wrote:There's a sense of resignation around these parts as everybody prepares to get Arrieta'd tomorrow night.
The Pirates finished with the second-best record in baseball, but nobody seemed to enjoy the season. I would have enjoyed it a lot more if I had followed the team casually instead of daily. Instead, I suffered thru Hurdle starting Pedro Florimon in a crucial game vs. the Cubs, Jung-Ho Kang's awful injury, Starling Marte and Gregory Polanco doing whatever the fuck it is they do when they try to run the bases, etc. I don't know why I remember the bad stuff more than the good stuff. Am I this jaded already, now that the Pirates have been good for three whole years now? Is this what it's like to be a Yankees fan?
That said, I'm looking forward to the game. I enjoy watching Arrieta. I love late bloomers, and to see an average pitcher become quietly good at 28, then loudly great at 29, is a great story. I just hope that Gerrit Cole is a little better tomorrow night.
The Cubs, Pirates, and Cardinals make quite a matchup. Over the last two-thirds of the season, the Pirates and Cubs each went 68-40 and the Cards went 64-44. (Toronto was the only AL team better, at 69-39.) The Cubs' pythag was .590, and the Pirates and Cards were each .561.
This means, of course, that the Cardinals will win out again. Fuckers.
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I wouldn't say that I hate anybody on the Pirates, but this team does frustrate me. Marte and Polanco are both very talented, which makes their defensive and baserunning errors all the more infuriating. (Pedro Alvarez is a crime against first base, but I don't get upset when he makes a mistake. He's just not a good defensive player; he doesn't make errors because he's acting like an ass-clown.)the d wrote:Lots of guys easy to hate even on your team.
At least they were able to unload Neck Lips Tabata at the trade deadline.
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Yankees aren't that far behind. If you list out their best players in franchise history (Yankee career only), you're probably forcing a SP into the top 10 if you have one. Maybe Ford, I guess, from half a century ago. Losing Cole will hurt until we sign him as a free agent for too many years.bapo! wrote:(We've talked about this before, but it's amazing that a team with a history as long and storied as the Pirates has never had a great pitcher. Cole might be that guy.)
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This is the one sentiment that unites all Cubs and Pirates fans.Steve wrote:This means, of course, that the Cardinals will win out again. Fuckers.
(I'm in awe of what the Cardinals were able to do with all of their injuries this year. Every couple of weeks, I found myself saying, 'That has to catch up to them at some point, right'?)
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Top 25 fWAR, single team:
1. Walter Johnson: 117.1 (Senators)
2. Christy Mathewson: 90 (Giants)
3. Bob Gibson: 82.3 (Cardinals)
4. John Smoltz: 78.3 (Braves)
5. Roger Clemens: 76.8 (Red Sox)
6. Steve Carlton: 75 (Phillies)
7. Warren Spahn: 74.3 (Braves)
8. Greg Maddux: 72.9 (Braves)
9. Kid Nichols: 72.8 (Beaneaters)
10. Phil Niekro: 72.2 (Braves)
11. Tom Seaver: 67.7 (Mets)
12. Don Sutton: 64 (Dodgers)
13. Robin Roberts: 62.7 (Phillies)
14. Bob Feller: 62.6 (Indians)
15. Mickey Lolich: 61.4 (Tigers)
16. Juan Marichal: 60.6 (Giants)
17. Hal Newhouser: 60.4 (Tigers)
18. Bob Friend: 60 (Pirates)
19. Don Drysdale: 59.3 (Dodgers)
20. Dazzy Vance: 59 (Robins)
21. Andy Pettitte: 57.8 (Yankees)
22. Eddie Plank: 57.8 (Athletics)
23. Jim Palmer: 56.6 (Orioles)
24. Carl Hubbell: 56.5 (Giants)
25. Cy Young: 55.7 (Spiders)
1. Walter Johnson: 117.1 (Senators)
2. Christy Mathewson: 90 (Giants)
3. Bob Gibson: 82.3 (Cardinals)
4. John Smoltz: 78.3 (Braves)
5. Roger Clemens: 76.8 (Red Sox)
6. Steve Carlton: 75 (Phillies)
7. Warren Spahn: 74.3 (Braves)
8. Greg Maddux: 72.9 (Braves)
9. Kid Nichols: 72.8 (Beaneaters)
10. Phil Niekro: 72.2 (Braves)
11. Tom Seaver: 67.7 (Mets)
12. Don Sutton: 64 (Dodgers)
13. Robin Roberts: 62.7 (Phillies)
14. Bob Feller: 62.6 (Indians)
15. Mickey Lolich: 61.4 (Tigers)
16. Juan Marichal: 60.6 (Giants)
17. Hal Newhouser: 60.4 (Tigers)
18. Bob Friend: 60 (Pirates)
19. Don Drysdale: 59.3 (Dodgers)
20. Dazzy Vance: 59 (Robins)
21. Andy Pettitte: 57.8 (Yankees)
22. Eddie Plank: 57.8 (Athletics)
23. Jim Palmer: 56.6 (Orioles)
24. Carl Hubbell: 56.5 (Giants)
25. Cy Young: 55.7 (Spiders)
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Kershaw?
he’s a fixbking cyborg or some shit. The
holy fuckbAllZ, what a ducking nightmare. Holy shot. Just, fuck. The
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I can only think of two for the Cubs - Three-Finger Brown and Fergie Jenkins. I don't think Maddux counts.mister d wrote:Yankees aren't that far behind. If you list out their best players in franchise history (Yankee career only), you're probably forcing a SP into the top 10 if you have one. Maybe Ford, I guess, from half a century ago. Losing Cole will hurt until we sign him as a free agent for too many years.bapo! wrote:(We've talked about this before, but it's amazing that a team with a history as long and storied as the Pirates has never had a great pitcher. Cole might be that guy.)
And Three-Finger Brown was only good for 45 WAR over his career.
Here are the Pirates career leaders in Pitching WAR (from BB Ref):
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Rk Player WAR From To Age G GS CG SHO GF W L W-L% SV IP H R ER BB SO ERA FIP ERA+ HR BF IBB HBP BK WP
1 Babe Adams 49.9 1907 1926 25-44 481 353 205 44 90 194 139 .583 16 2991.1 2832 1125 911 428 1036 2.74 2.72 118 67 11926 47 1 26
2 Bob Friend 47.9 1951 1965 20-34 568 477 161 35 46 191 218 .467 9 3480.1 3610 1575 1372 869 1682 3.55 3.33 108 273 14644 108 45 12 50
3 Wilbur Cooper 47.9 1912 1924 20-32 469 369 263 33 78 202 159 .560 14 3199.0 3074 1241 974 762 1191 2.74 3.03 120 79 13123 93 0 43
4 John Candelaria 32.1 1975 1993 21-39 345 271 45 9 42 124 87 .588 16 1873.0 1763 731 660 436 1159 3.17 3.40 117 172 7651 45 26 10 13
5 Sam Leever 29.3 1901 1910 29-38 302 228 179 32 61 157 64 .710 10 2016.0 1834 721 518 412 627 2.31 2.70 122 20 8016 68 3 28
6 Vern Law 26.2 1950 1967 20-37 483 364 119 28 78 162 147 .524 13 2672.0 2833 1274 1118 597 1092 3.77 3.70 101 268 11231 74 40 3 39
7 Rip Sewell 25.7 1938 1949 31-42 385 243 137 20 86 143 97 .596 15 2108.2 2082 968 804 740 634 3.43 3.77 109 114 9041 23 2 30
8 Ray Kremer 25.5 1924 1933 31-40 308 247 134 14 37 143 85 .627 9 1954.2 2108 950 816 483 516 3.76 4.18 113 123 8330 29 2 23
9 Deacon Phillippe 25.1 1901 1911 29-39 292 218 180 24 63 148 79 .652 11 2007.0 1913 766 548 257 786 2.46 2.36 118 24 7948 45 3 35
10 Bob Veale 24.0 1962 1972 26-36 341 255 78 20 31 116 91 .560 6 1868.2 1630 731 636 839 1652 3.06 2.76 113 87 7924 59 29 9 90
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Because the Play Index is so awesome, here's the top 20 for the Yankees. As the first line shows, this is not limited to starters.
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Rk Player WAR From To Age G GS CG SHO GF W L W-L% SV IP H R ER BB SO ERA FIP ERA+ HR BF IBB HBP BK WP
1 Mariano Rivera 56.6 1995 2013 25-43 1115 10 0 0 952 82 60 .577 652 1283.2 998 340 315 286 1173 2.21 2.76 205 71 5103 41 46 3 13
2 Whitey Ford 53.9 1950 1967 21-38 498 438 156 45 35 236 106 .690 11 3170.1 2766 1107 967 1086 1956 2.75 3.26 133 228 13036 44 28 5 75
3 Andy Pettitte 51.6 1995 2013 23-41 447 438 24 3 2 219 127 .633 0 2796.1 2951 1355 1223 889 2020 3.94 3.77 115 236 11924 31 50 10 61
4 Ron Guidry 47.9 1975 1988 24-37 368 323 95 26 23 170 91 .651 4 2392.0 2198 953 874 633 1778 3.29 3.27 119 226 9794 24 13 8 56
5 Red Ruffing 46.8 1930 1946 25-41 426 391 261 40 30 231 124 .651 9 3168.2 2995 1406 1222 1066 1526 3.47 3.86 119 200 13353 31 3 26
6 Lefty Gomez 43.2 1930 1942 21-33 367 319 173 28 31 189 101 .652 10 2498.1 2286 1087 927 1090 1468 3.34 3.87 125 138 10706 19 0 39
7 Bob Shawkey 42.8 1915 1927 24-36 415 274 164 26 105 168 131 .562 27 2488.2 2304 1014 862 855 1163 3.12 3.44 117 102 10211 42 1 36
8 Mel Stottlemyre 40.6 1964 1974 22-32 360 356 152 40 3 164 139 .541 1 2661.1 2435 1003 878 809 1257 2.97 3.37 112 171 10972 75 44 1 57
9 Waite Hoyt 35.6 1921 1930 21-30 365 276 156 15 70 157 98 .616 29 2272.1 2405 1035 879 631 713 3.48 3.81 115 93 9673 32 3 23
10 Mike Mussina 35.1 2001 2008 32-39 249 248 12 8 0 123 72 .631 0 1553.0 1565 723 669 318 1278 3.88 3.50 114 166 6392 14 38 0 32
11 Herb Pennock 33.3 1923 1933 29-39 346 268 165 19 52 162 90 .643 23 2203.1 2471 1032 867 471 700 3.54 3.61 114 91 9373 15 4 34
12 Ray Caldwell 29.0 1910 1918 22-30 248 196 150 17 42 96 99 .492 4 1718.1 1519 684 572 576 803 3.00 2.95 101 41 6870 52 2 22
13 Jack Chesbro 28.4 1903 1909 29-35 269 227 168 18 36 128 93 .579 2 1952.0 1752 795 560 434 913 2.58 2.39 109 26 7731 55 1 42
14 Russ Ford 25.5 1909 1913 26-30 143 129 100 10 14 73 56 .566 3 1112.2 1010 458 314 287 553 2.54 2.78 126 27 4432 24 3 16
15 Spud Chandler 23.2 1937 1947 29-39 211 184 109 26 14 109 43 .717 6 1485.0 1327 549 468 463 614 2.84 3.30 132 64 6102 19 5 20
16 Dave Righetti 22.9 1979 1990 20-31 522 76 13 2 379 74 61 .548 224 1136.2 999 448 393 473 940 3.11 3.12 127 65 4811 37 16 16 33
17 CC Sabathia 22.6 2009 2015 28-34 198 198 12 2 0 97 56 .634 0 1329.1 1290 609 551 371 1181 3.73 3.64 114 143 5569 27 45 5 33
18 Roger Clemens 21.2 1999 2007 36-44 175 174 3 2 0 83 42 .664 0 1103.0 1044 536 491 398 1014 4.01 3.80 114 116 4684 8 41 1 50
19 David Cone 20.4 1995 2000 32-37 145 144 7 1 0 64 40 .615 0 922.0 829 431 401 398 888 3.91 4.02 118 98 3943 8 42 4 47
20 Tommy John 20.0 1979 1989 36-46 214 203 53 12 7 91 60 .603 0 1367.0 1456 621 545 324 483 3.59 3.59 112 80 5709 19 33 10 46
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Bob Friend. Would never have guessed that. But he's only on that list because he pitched 15 years for the Pirates. Glancing at his numbers, it looks like he was dominant in maybe two of those years.
Fun story, tho I might be confusing Friend with Dick Groat or Don Hoak, but I'm pretty sure it was Friend. Anyway, my sister's father-in-law used to live in an apartment downstairs from him. F-I-L said that he knew when Friend was scheduled to pitch because he could hear him pacing back and forth all night the night before.
Fun story, tho I might be confusing Friend with Dick Groat or Don Hoak, but I'm pretty sure it was Friend. Anyway, my sister's father-in-law used to live in an apartment downstairs from him. F-I-L said that he knew when Friend was scheduled to pitch because he could hear him pacing back and forth all night the night before.
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Speaking of WAR, I don't think that I was Swamping when I heard this a few months ago so it's probably been mentioned: Since 2009, Mike Trout has the fifth-highest WAR in baseball, even tho his first full season wasn't until 2012.
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He also has the fourth-highest WAR for any player in history through their age 24 season. Which he hasn't played yet.bapo! wrote:Speaking of WAR, I don't think that I was Swamping when I heard this a few months ago so it's probably been mentioned: Since 2009, Mike Trout has the fifth-highest WAR in baseball, even tho his first full season wasn't until 2012.
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454 hitters since 1900 have 1,000 or more PA before age 24:
Mike Trout: 38.5 (2,877 PA)
Ted Williams: 36.4 (2,615 PA)
Ty Cobb: 36.2 (3,080 PA)
Mel Ott: 33.2 (3,313 PA)
Mickey Mantle: 29.5 (2,841 PA)
Ken Griffey Jr.: 28.1 (3,113 PA)
Arky Vaughan: 26.9 (2,480 PA)
Joe Jackson: 26.9 (2,044 PA)
Eddie Mathews: 26.7 (2,491 PA)
Al Kaline: 26.2 (3,182 PA)
Jimmie Foxx: 26.1 (2,567 PA)
Rogers Hornsby: 26.0 (2,243 PA)
Alex Rodriguez: 25.5 (2,843 PA)
Stan Musial: 25.4 (1,953 PA)
Andruw Jones: 25.4 (2,619 PA)
Sherry Magee: 24.8 (2,841 PA)
Cesar Cedeno: 23.1 (2,915 PA)
Cal Ripken: 22.4 (2,137 PA)
Albert Pujols: 22.2 (2,036 PA)
Frank Robinson: 21.7 (2,594 PA)
...
Delmon Young: -1.5 (1,851 PA)
Charley O'Leary: -1.6 (1,560 PA)
Johnny Berardino: -2.1 (1,074 PA)
Ed Brinkman: -2.2 (1,685 PA)
Bob Kennedy: -2.3 (1,388 PA)
Alex Gonzalez: -2.3 (1,096 PA)
Peter Bergeron: -3.4 (1,063 PA)
Al Brancato: -3.6 (1,003 PA)
Ted Kazanski: -4.4 (1,125 PA)
Jose Guillen: -5.3 (1,449 PA)
Mike Trout: 38.5 (2,877 PA)
Ted Williams: 36.4 (2,615 PA)
Ty Cobb: 36.2 (3,080 PA)
Mel Ott: 33.2 (3,313 PA)
Mickey Mantle: 29.5 (2,841 PA)
Ken Griffey Jr.: 28.1 (3,113 PA)
Arky Vaughan: 26.9 (2,480 PA)
Joe Jackson: 26.9 (2,044 PA)
Eddie Mathews: 26.7 (2,491 PA)
Al Kaline: 26.2 (3,182 PA)
Jimmie Foxx: 26.1 (2,567 PA)
Rogers Hornsby: 26.0 (2,243 PA)
Alex Rodriguez: 25.5 (2,843 PA)
Stan Musial: 25.4 (1,953 PA)
Andruw Jones: 25.4 (2,619 PA)
Sherry Magee: 24.8 (2,841 PA)
Cesar Cedeno: 23.1 (2,915 PA)
Cal Ripken: 22.4 (2,137 PA)
Albert Pujols: 22.2 (2,036 PA)
Frank Robinson: 21.7 (2,594 PA)
...
Delmon Young: -1.5 (1,851 PA)
Charley O'Leary: -1.6 (1,560 PA)
Johnny Berardino: -2.1 (1,074 PA)
Ed Brinkman: -2.2 (1,685 PA)
Bob Kennedy: -2.3 (1,388 PA)
Alex Gonzalez: -2.3 (1,096 PA)
Peter Bergeron: -3.4 (1,063 PA)
Al Brancato: -3.6 (1,003 PA)
Ted Kazanski: -4.4 (1,125 PA)
Jose Guillen: -5.3 (1,449 PA)
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he’s a fixbking cyborg or some shit. The
holy fuckbAllZ, what a ducking nightmare. Holy shot. Just, fuck. The
holy fuckbAllZ, what a ducking nightmare. Holy shot. Just, fuck. The
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Hard to bet against the Cubs in October. I'll take them, 2-1. Not really sure where the Bucs' run is going to come from--maybe they'll get the run I thought the Yanks would get last night.
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Career vs. Arrieta:Rex wrote:Not really sure where the Bucs' run is going to come from--maybe they'll get the run I thought the Yanks would get last night.
Projected lineup except McCutchen plus Aramis Ramirez - 18 for 120
McCutchen - 8 for 23
he’s a fixbking cyborg or some shit. The
holy fuckbAllZ, what a ducking nightmare. Holy shot. Just, fuck. The
holy fuckbAllZ, what a ducking nightmare. Holy shot. Just, fuck. The
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Yeah, but despite all that, Chicago has one inherent disadvantage - a century-long history of Cubness.
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The Pirates just announced their line-up: Polanco, Harrison, Cutch, Marte, Cervelli, Walker, Mercer, Rodriguez, Cole.
Josh Harrison at 3rd base, Sean Rodriguez at 1st base, Aramis Ramirez and Pedro Alvarez on the bench.
Rodriguez is one of those players who can play a bunch of positions capably. Hurdle likes to use him as a late-inning defensive replacement when they have the lead. The only problem is that he can't really hit. (OPS+ of 76 this year.) I guess Hurdle is going all-in on defense. He really wants to win this game 2-1.
This is fantastic. The radio guys I'm listening to are losing their minds. Now I can listen to five hours of angry yinzers leading up to the game. And if the Pirates lose, I know what the reaction will be. This decision will be talked about all winter.
Josh Harrison at 3rd base, Sean Rodriguez at 1st base, Aramis Ramirez and Pedro Alvarez on the bench.
Rodriguez is one of those players who can play a bunch of positions capably. Hurdle likes to use him as a late-inning defensive replacement when they have the lead. The only problem is that he can't really hit. (OPS+ of 76 this year.) I guess Hurdle is going all-in on defense. He really wants to win this game 2-1.
This is fantastic. The radio guys I'm listening to are losing their minds. Now I can listen to five hours of angry yinzers leading up to the game. And if the Pirates lose, I know what the reaction will be. This decision will be talked about all winter.
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Yup. They can be the underdog, they can be the favorite, they can be completely lucky to be there, they can be on the verge of clinching the pennant, they can still be counted on to fail spectacularly.sancarlos wrote:Yeah, but despite all that, Chicago has one inherent disadvantage - a century-long history of Cubness.
As I mentioned to a local sportswriter on Twitter, the Cubs have made the playoffs six times since 1984 (or since 1945). Each time they collapsed with a three-game losing streak.
At least if they get knocked off tonight, they will end that streak.
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I felt aswirl with warm secretions.
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Yeah, Maddon has made a strange lineup, too. Schwarber in right, Bryant in left, Tommy LaStella starting at third. Maddon is also batting Russell eighth and Arrieta ninth. I guess he figures Arrieta is more likely to come through with the bat.bapo! wrote:The Pirates just announced their line-up: Polanco, Harrison, Cutch, Marte, Cervelli, Walker, Mercer, Rodriguez, Cole.
Josh Harrison at 3rd base, Sean Rodriguez at 1st base, Aramis Ramirez and Pedro Alvarez on the bench.
Rodriguez is one of those players who can play a bunch of positions capably. Hurdle likes to use him as a late-inning defensive replacement when they have the lead. The only problem is that he can't really hit. (OPS+ of 76 this year.) I guess Hurdle is going all-in on defense. He really wants to win this game 2-1.
This is fantastic. The radio guys I'm listening to are losing their minds. Now I can listen to five hours of angry yinzers leading up to the game. And if the Pirates lose, I know what the reaction will be. This decision will be talked about all winter.
But Cubs fans are happier because they are basically delirious to be here and think that Maddon can do no wrong.
I'm fine with the lineup but would rather see Baez at third. It won't make a difference to the likelihood of success, and it would be good to get all these superkids their first taste of "Postseason."
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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I'd like to see Lions fans and Cubs fans face off in a negativity contest one day. Maybe Debbie Downer could moderate.
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Re: 2015 NL Central playoffs (and NYM/LAD)
Sean Rodriguez at first...eh, I'd think one of their best hopes would be Pedro running into one, but I get it.
Let's ride.
Let's ride.
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Also...the Cubs win 97 fuckin games and get a road play-in. That's crazy.
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It seems insane that fans can be told repeatedly about the data used by both of those front offices and then continue to argue about it. Looking for a minute at the numbers, not only does the defense improve, but Arrieta has reverse splits (34 point higher isoP to righties), so you can either feed him Alvarez thinking somehow he didn't face 200 Alvarez's this season and eat them up, or you can take the known gains of the defense plus hopefully some marginal gains of the splits and hope that little tiny fraction pays off.bapo! wrote:Rodriguez is one of those players who can play a bunch of positions capably. Hurdle likes to use him as a late-inning defensive replacement when they have the lead. The only problem is that he can't really hit. (OPS+ of 76 this year.) I guess Hurdle is going all-in on defense. He really wants to win this game 2-1.
(Which is exactly what Girardi, who also LOVES that information, didn't do last night when he started McCann over Murphy. McCann the name is the better player overall; Murphy the right handed hitter had slightly better odds of success in that specific instance.)
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(And that's just be looking at basic splits. I'm sure they're 10 levels deeper in terms of what pitches Arrieta leaves most vulnerable and which ones Rodriguez sees his rare success against and all that. Just like I'm sure the Cubs know exactly what 0.XX balls hit to right could happen where Bryant makes the play but Schwarber doesn't.)
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Pittsburgh fans do not deserve their teams, man. I may be more critical of them than others due to familiarity but these motherfuckers are never happy and their teams are awesome.
The Steelers are good like, 4 out of every 5 years for the last 2+ decades. The shit are you people complaining about? Watch the other teams and see how they go year to year.
The Steelers are good like, 4 out of every 5 years for the last 2+ decades. The shit are you people complaining about? Watch the other teams and see how they go year to year.
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Any Mets fans down for an avatar bet?
My only fear of death is coming back to this b1tch reincarnated