Inaugural Bensell Triple Crown Challenge

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue May 03, 2016 2:35 pm

OK, here's the plan. In honor of the Swamp's foremost horse racing afficianodo (as well as Worldwide Frivologist and JukeBox Junkie) Bensell, let's do a five week contest. This is my plan:

- Everyone gets 20 Swampbucks per Triple Crown race, or $60 to start with
- You can bet that twenty dollars in as many separate bets as you like but you must use at least 20 swampbucks in each race (and no more than $20 in the Derby)
- I say at least 20 swampbucks because if you make money, you will be able to use your entire money pool in a subsequent race (for example, you cash $30 of tickets at the derby, which means you would have that 30 plus the twenty in reserve for the Preakness. Also, you may have less than $20 returned to you but that will be available as well (you only cash $10 back on your $20 bets, which would mean you have $30 for the Preakness). The caveat is that you must use AT LEAST HALF of your value over $20. (If you had $50 available you'd have to spend $35 and could bank an extra $15 for the Belmont)
- Rollovers will continue until the Belmont, where you can spend only the $20 or whatever else you may have (even if you have $100 in winnings, you are only required to spend the $20) but same 50% of anything over $20 must be wagered
- Most money after Belmont wins

Types of bets available will be
- Win, Place, Show
- Exacta, Trifecta, Superfecta (including Box bets for all exotics)
All bets bust be $2 minimum bet (though you can do $1 exacta/trifecta boxes which make the total bet over $2) with the exception of the Superfecta, which will be a minimum of 0.10

I will track and score each bet and announce the new totals the Monday after each race.

I'd be open to everyone that wants to putting in $5 and the winner gets that, but I would want someone to handle the paypal for that as I don't use paypal often and don't trust myself. You wouldn't have to be in the money pool to play the Challenge. Highest finisher among those putting money in would get the money. Highest overall finisher is the champion.

You can use this website to check how much your bet will cost for Trifectas and Superfectas

https://www.americasbestracing.net/gambling-calculator

Bets will be accepted so long as they are in this thread before the race goes off and HAVE NOT BEEN EDITED. If you miscalculate and your bets don't equal $20 before the race goes off, the FIRST BET LISTED will be increased by the shortage. If you go over your bankroll, the first bet will be reduced (even if that makes it less than the minimum).

Let's do this! Signify that you want in and I will update this list

1. A_B
2. BSF21
3. Chedda
4. Moreta
5. Rass
6. wlu_lax6
7. Degen
8. Ljam
9. Sabo
10. Rex
11. Jerloma
12. Pruitt
13. Duff
14. Bronto
15. Sancarlos

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Tue May 03, 2016 2:36 pm

I'd be in and don't know squat about horse racing. It'll be just like Swampcrash!

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue May 03, 2016 2:36 pm

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue May 03, 2016 2:40 pm

If you don't get your bets in before post time, you will lose whatever your minimum betting amount is, be it $20 or $20+%50 of previous winnings)

Also, if a horse is scratched and you don't fix that bet, the money will be added to your FIRST BET. Or second and so on until the first bet without a scratched horse is found. If you only make one bet that ends up with a scratched horse and you don't fix it before post time, you will be credited with half your bet but will be REQUIRED to spend that amount the next race in addition to any 50% rule enforecements. If you fail to fix it for the Belmont you will lose the full amount.

Moreta · Post by **Moreta** » Tue May 03, 2016 3:38 pm

I'm in. I hit the perfecta at the Belmont last year with my tiny wagering attempts (which conveniently nearly paid for the trip). I'd have had the tri too if I'd thought to play it.

rass · Post by **rass** » Tue May 03, 2016 3:42 pm

I'm in, though we may need to revisit the rules explanation after the Derby (and assuming I make any winning bets).

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Tue May 03, 2016 3:55 pm

In...great idea...can I troll the floor and trash can for winning tickets that others did not realize won because that may be the only way I make any money in this thing.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue May 03, 2016 3:56 pm

in, i don't know anything either.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Tue May 03, 2016 3:56 pm

Ditto Rass.

Post by **Sabo** » Tue May 03, 2016 4:17 pm

In.

And if we want to do this for real money, I'll handle all of the PayPal stuff.

ETA: And to be pedantic as possible, Bensell was a worldwide frivologist and international juke artist. Bonus points to anyone who knows who said that phrase all the time.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue May 03, 2016 4:21 pm

I'm in.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Tue May 03, 2016 9:53 pm

I would like to partake.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue May 03, 2016 10:25 pm

I'm in with the caveat that I will be in Japan for the first two races.

No guarantee I'll be able to get a wager in, but there are ways around it.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed May 04, 2016 7:12 am

rass wrote:I'm in, though we may need to revisit the rules explanation after the Derby (and assuming I make any winning bets).

Yeah, sorry. I have been in a conference and kinda rushed it. It's simpler than I made it appear. Just wanted to create a system that prevented someone who hit a big ticket in the derby ust sitting back and not betting on the last two races. Consider it a system to create action.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Wed May 04, 2016 7:25 am

Pruitt wrote:I'm in with the caveat that I will be in Japan for the first two races.

No guarantee I'll be able to get a wager in, but there are ways around it.

Yea, I heard Japan just got Wi-Fi. You should be covered.

duff · Post by **duff** » Wed May 04, 2016 9:32 am

Count me in. I know nothing about the ponies, but I like to spend fake money.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Wed May 04, 2016 9:51 am

AB, did you ever find out how Ben died?

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed May 04, 2016 9:56 am

Jerloma wrote:AB, did you ever find out how Ben died?

No, I did some searches for police reports in and around where I knew he used to live, but I think he was no longer in the same place and I didn't really know where to continue the search. There was nothing that showed up in the google searches other than obituary and one facebook thing from a friend of his with a public profile.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed May 04, 2016 10:25 am

BSF21 wrote:
Pruitt wrote:I'm in with the caveat that I will be in Japan for the first two races.

No guarantee I'll be able to get a wager in, but there are ways around it.
Yea, I heard Japan just got Wi-Fi. You should be covered.

I should probably be backing Lani then.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed May 04, 2016 1:09 pm

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Wed May 04, 2016 3:13 pm

sure, if I remember on Saturday

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Wed May 04, 2016 3:15 pm

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu May 05, 2016 5:10 am

I'll beat the rush to the window:

$2 across the board on (19) Brody's Cause

$4 Win/Place on (11) Exaggerator

$1 Exactor Box - (11), (13) Nyquist, (19)

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu May 05, 2016 7:54 am

Here are the horse name and odds, along with Jockey and Trainer. ANy other information you are on your own! (the AE horses are eligible if there is a scratch)

Post time: 6:34 p.m. Saturday at Churchill Downs. Distance: 1 1/4 miles. Purse: $2 million. TV: NBC. Radio: Horse Racing Radio Network.

PP. Horse (weight) jockey/trainer odds

1. Trojan Nation (126) Gryder/Gallagher 50-1

2. Suddenbreakingnews (126) Quinonez/Von Hemel 20-1

3. Creator (126) Santana Jr./Asmussen 10-1

4. Mo Tom (126) Lanerie/Amoss 20-1

5. Gun Runner (126) Geroux/Asmussen 10-1

6. My Man Sam (126) Ortiz Jr./Brown 20-1

7. Oscar Nominated (126) Leparoux/Maker 50-1

8. Lani (126) Take/Matsunaga 30-1

9. Destin (126) Castellano/Pletcher 15-1

10. Whitmore (126) Espinoza/Moquett 20-1

11. Exaggerator (126) Desormeaux/Desormeaux 8-1

12. Tom's Ready (126) Hernandez Jr./Stewart 30-1

13. Nyquist (126) Gutierrez/O'Neill 3-1

14. Mohaymen (126) Alvarado/McLaughlin 10-1

15. Outwork (126) Velazquez/Pletcher 15-1

16. Shagaf (126) Rosario/Brown 20-1

17. Mor Spirit (126) Stevens/Baffert 12-1

18. Majesto (126) Jaramillo/Delgado 30-1

19. Brody's Cause (126) Saez/Romans 12-1

20. Danzing Candy (126) Smith/Sise 15-1

AE. Laoban (126) Velasquez/Guillot 50-1

AE. Cherry Wine (126) Albarado/Romans 30-1

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri May 06, 2016 6:09 am

Ok yahoos, get your bets in. I am going to the track with some friends today to watch he Oaks, but I'll get these input this evening probably.

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri May 06, 2016 6:49 am

$2 across the board on (2) Suddenbreakingnews
$2 across the board on (8) Lani
$2 across the board on (11) Exaggerator
$2 to win on (13) Nyquist

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Fri May 06, 2016 7:01 am

2$ Exacta Box on 13(Nyquist), 11(Exaggerator), and 5(Gun Runner) (12$)

2$ Trifecta on 13-11-5
2$ Trifecta on 11-13-5
2$ Trifecta on 20(Danzing Candy)-13-11

2$ Place on 2(suddenbreakingnews)

Did I do that right?

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri May 06, 2016 7:07 am

Looks right to me!

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Fri May 06, 2016 7:15 am

A_B wrote:Looks right to me!

A reading from First BSF, Chapter 4, Verse 7: Through google, all things are possible. Even horse bets. Bitches.

duff · Post by **duff** » Fri May 06, 2016 7:55 am

$4 win/place on 13.
$2 across the board on 5.
$2 Exacta box 11, 13, 17
$2 Trifecta on 11-13-3

Please let me know if I am short any money on the bet.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri May 06, 2016 7:59 am

I think oh are way too high, duff. A three horse exacta box at 2 bucks is a twelve dollar bet.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri May 06, 2016 8:01 am

If you make your first bet 3 bucks and the exacta box a one dollar you'd be good.

duff · Post by **duff** » Fri May 06, 2016 8:04 am

Great. I want to do that.

$3 win/place on 13.
$2 across the board on 5.
$1 Exacta box 11, 13, 17
$2 Trifecta on 11-13-3

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Fri May 06, 2016 8:09 am

This is neat. I still don't know shit about the horses, but at least I'm learning how to bet properly for the next time I end up at the track. I was unaware of "boxes" before this.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Fri May 06, 2016 8:34 am

$20 on Nyquist to Show

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Fri May 06, 2016 9:12 am

Gonna keep this simple:

$10 on #5 to win
$10 on #13 to show

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Fri May 06, 2016 9:21 am

$4 place Oscar Nominated
$4 place Majesto
$4 perfecta box My Man Sam/Mohaymen
$4 win Nyquist

Hope that adds up

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Fri May 06, 2016 9:30 am

Did I do this right?
$6 on Nyquist Win/Place
$6 on Exaggerator to Win/Place
$4 on Mohaymen to Win/Place/Show
$2 on Mor Spirit Win/Place/Show
$2 on Gun Runner Win/Place/Show

Post by **Sabo** » Fri May 06, 2016 9:32 am

$2 exacta box on 5 (Gun Runner) and 6 (My Man Sam)
$4 across the board on 11 (Exaggerator)
$4 to show on 15 (Outwork)

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri May 06, 2016 9:46 am

Lax you are way off. Those across three board bets are two dollars make bet amounts higher because it is actually tree or two different bets. You'd need to change your amounts to make it work.