Inaugural Bensell Triple Crown Challenge

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Fri May 06, 2016 9:58 am

A_B wrote:Lax you are way off. Those across three board bets are two dollars make bet amounts higher because it is actually tree or two different bets. You'd need to change your amounts to make it work.

Maybe he means #2 is a Place bet and 3-5 are Show bets and not across the board?

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Fri May 06, 2016 10:54 am

BSF21 wrote:
A_B wrote:Lax you are way off. Those across three board bets are two dollars make bet amounts higher because it is actually tree or two different bets. You'd need to change your amounts to make it work.
Maybe he means #2 is a Place bet and 3-5 are Show bets and not across the board?

Sorry yes...my desire is to bet the "win or place" or "win, place, or show"

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri May 06, 2016 11:54 am

I still don't get it. A two dollar win place or show bet is actually a six dollar bet.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Fri May 06, 2016 11:59 am

A_B wrote:I still don't get it. A two dollar win place or show bet is actually a six dollar bet.

Probably goes in the confessions thread but my entire horse racing betting experience is based on

Will try to correct my bet before post

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri May 06, 2016 12:02 pm

10 on Nyquist to win.
5 on Nyquist to place.
5 on Nyquist to show.
Gotta support the horse with the hockey player's name.

duff · Post by **duff** » Fri May 06, 2016 12:26 pm

wlu_lax6 wrote:
A_B wrote:I still don't get it. A two dollar win place or show bet is actually a six dollar bet.
Probably goes in the confessions thread but my entire horse racing betting experience is based on

Will try to correct my bet before post

I loved playing this game. Better then Lock n' Chase.

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Fri May 06, 2016 12:36 pm

I thought if you make a show bet that automatically paid if you win or place. You dont get the win or place money but you still got paid on the show bet. How I interpreted his bet.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri May 06, 2016 12:43 pm

HaulCitgo wrote:I thought if you make a show bet that automatically paid if you win or place. You dont get the win or place money but you still got paid on the show bet. How I interpreted his bet.

That is true. But his at still confused me enough to not understand exactly what he wanted. As he had it it was 30somethjng dollars.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri May 06, 2016 12:46 pm

wlu_lax6 wrote:Did I do this right?
$6 on Nyquist Win/Place
$6 on Exaggerator to Win/Place
$4 on Mohaymen to Win/Place/Show
$2 on Mor Spirit Win/Place/Show
$2 on Gun Runner Win/Place/Show

If you want to keep your bet amounts and just drop them to the lowest spot this would work.

So 6 to place on nyquist, same on exaggerate, 4 show on mohaymen, 2 show on others then this works. And yes, you'd cash any of those bets so long as they finished at least in that position.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Fri May 06, 2016 1:01 pm

A_B wrote:
wlu_lax6 wrote:Did I do this right?
$6 on Nyquist Win/Place
$6 on Exaggerator to Win/Place
$4 on Mohaymen to Win/Place/Show
$2 on Mor Spirit Win/Place/Show
$2 on Gun Runner Win/Place/Show
If you want to keep your bet amounts and just drop them to the lowest spot this would work.

So 6 to place on nyquist, same on exaggerate, 4 show on mohaymen, 2 show on others then this works. And yes, you'd cash any of those bets so long as they finished at least in that position.

This is what I meant by my 2$ place bet, that I'll cash if that horse places 1st or 2nd. Am I correct on that?

duff · Post by **duff** » Fri May 06, 2016 1:03 pm

Yes, with a Place bet, if your horse finishes either first or second you win something.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri May 06, 2016 1:17 pm

Ok. That's what i will enter

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Fri May 06, 2016 1:43 pm

These were the payouts in last year's Derby.

Meaning that if you bet on American Pharoah to Show, you won $4.20 on a $2 bet.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Fri May 06, 2016 2:08 pm

A_B wrote:
wlu_lax6 wrote:Did I do this right?
$6 on Nyquist Win/Place
$6 on Exaggerator to Win/Place
$4 on Mohaymen to Win/Place/Show
$2 on Mor Spirit Win/Place/Show
$2 on Gun Runner Win/Place/Show
If you want to keep your bet amounts and just drop them to the lowest spot this would work.

So 6 to place on nyquist, same on exaggerate, 4 show on mohaymen, 2 show on others then this works. And yes, you'd cash any of those bets so long as they finished at least in that position.

that is what I am talking about.
and Diversification so much that I am sure to win something and yet end up underwater

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri May 06, 2016 2:57 pm

too complex.

$20 on Nyquist

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sat May 07, 2016 5:55 am

Ima go with

$2 ATB 14(Mohaymen)
$1 Tri Box 5-11-13
$2 Place/Show 3
$2 Place 7
$2 Win 6

Moreta · Post by **Moreta** » Sat May 07, 2016 8:51 am

13-11 perfecta box. $2
13-14 perfecta box. $2
10 $2 WPS
7 $2 PS
14 $2 W

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Sat May 07, 2016 9:08 am

I think this is right:

$5 on Nyquist to Place
$2 on Exaggerator across the board
$2 Mohaymen to Show
$5 for Gun Runner to Show
$2 Nyquist-Exaggerator Exacta

Post by **Sabo** » Sat May 07, 2016 9:15 am

AB, just an FYI that I made some changes to my bets. Here are the changes (I also made the changes in my original post.)

$2 exacta box on 5 (Gun Runner) and 6 (My Man Sam)
$4 across the board on 11 (Exaggerator)
$4 to show on 15 (Outwork)

Thanks for running this.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Sat May 07, 2016 2:06 pm

degenerasian wrote:too complex.

$20 on Nyquist

Not complex enough. What do you expect the horse to do? First, second, or third. $20 on win means he has to win. $20 on place means if he comes in 1st or 2nd, you win. $20 on show means if he comes in 1st, 2nd or 3rd, you win.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sat May 07, 2016 4:28 pm

I assumed hat was a win bet but had he same thoughts as you at first

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat May 07, 2016 4:32 pm

govmentchedda wrote:
degenerasian wrote:too complex.

$20 on Nyquist
Not complex enough. What do you expect the horse to do? First, second, or third. $20 on win means he has to win. $20 on place means if he comes in 1st or 2nd, you win. $20 on show means if he comes in 1st, 2nd or 3rd, you win.

$20 on Nyquist to win

howard · Post by **howard** » Sat May 07, 2016 5:34 pm

~That's a lot of friggin' horses
~Johnny Wier is just great
~Tis summer, the darkies are gay

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat May 07, 2016 5:42 pm

Japanese horse cant be in the barn.

Racists!

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sat May 07, 2016 6:13 pm

WHOOOO

howard · Post by **howard** » Sat May 07, 2016 6:19 pm

Nice box, AB (and anyone else who hit the tri)

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sat May 07, 2016 6:51 pm

govmentchedda wrote:
degenerasian wrote:too complex.

$20 on Nyquist
Not complex enough. What do you expect the horse to do? First, second, or third. $20 on win means he has to win. $20 on place means if he comes in 1st or 2nd, you win. $20 on show means if he comes in 1st, 2nd or 3rd, you win.

Less risk, less reward. I put my whole 20 on Nyqvist, but spread it across win, place and show bets. Degen put it all to win, so deservedly, his profit was larger!

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Sat May 07, 2016 8:11 pm

I feel like everyone hit the tri.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Sun May 08, 2016 3:29 pm

Pay this man his money.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Mon May 09, 2016 8:23 am

Bout to get this finished up tablulating. BSF is the big winner, which means he's gonna bet like a mofo at the Preakness

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Mon May 09, 2016 8:53 am

OK. The crazy thing is that everyone that placed a bet cashed a ticket of some sort. All but three at least got their money back. The heavy favorite combined with decent odds for good horses made for a bloodbath for the track! Collectively, the challenge bet $260 and won 706.80. That's nuts.

Without further ado, the standings, along with additional columns that show the maximum carryover and minimum bets for the Preakness, which again is half of any cash you ended up with after the Derby. So while BSF hit the biggest payday, he will also have to wager more in the next race.

If you think I screwed up your winnings, please let me know. I tried to be diligent, but I did do it by hand.

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Mon May 09, 2016 11:23 am

Whats up man? Can I get in the game? Maybe its punishment for my failure to draft pick for the Panthers.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Mon May 09, 2016 11:25 am

Oh man! Sorry! Will fix it now

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Mon May 09, 2016 11:28 am

A_B wrote:OK. The crazy thing is that everyone that placed a bet cashed a ticket of some sort. All but three at least got their money back. The heavy favorite combined with decent odds for good horses made for a bloodbath for the track! Collectively, the challenge bet $260 and won 706.80. That's nuts.

With results like that we should have sent you some real money to go play with.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Mon May 09, 2016 11:28 am

I HAD YOUR INFO IN BUT LEFT OFF THE TABLE...oops
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rass · Post by **rass** » Mon May 09, 2016 11:30 am

Alright!

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Mon May 09, 2016 11:36 am

A note on the minimum bets. They are just that. Your total bankroll is the amount you can spend if you want, but the last column is what you HAVE to spend.

Also, this table corrects the rounding error I made on Degen's bet

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed May 18, 2016 6:18 pm

Sketchy WiFi in a coffee shop - not Starbucks- in fabulous Tokyo...

I'll put 4 bucks across the board on Stradivari.

$3 exactor box - Stradivari/Nyquist/Lani

$2 triactor box - same three horses

And Japanese women? Great googly moogly!

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Thu May 19, 2016 7:41 am

$40 on Nyquist, Exaggerator exacta box (the $40 is total bet...so I guess technically that is $20)
$10 on Stradivari to show

Post by **Sabo** » Thu May 19, 2016 7:55 am

Here's a link with the post positions, trainers, jockeys and odds:

http://espn.go.com/horse-racing/story/_ ... s-favorite