Welcome NHL Las Vegas

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:43 am

yeah to echo above the PA is fine with it, they don't care where their players go as long as they have jobs. And 23 new ones.
The owners will take a hit competitivewise but things go in cycles and teams gets good again. 500 million divided by 30 owners plus revenue from Vegas not having to suffer through 5 years of growing pains sounds pretty good.

It's more a concern for fans, they play amateur GM on the internet.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:55 am

Would have huge implications on "us", too. If we wanted to trade for Barrie or resign Yandle, we'd either have to give back two forwards, know we'd lose one of Barrie/Yandle, Skjei or McD or, most likely, be "forced" into a Girardi buyout. Having that 3rd slot to play with would be a pretty big deal.

(Which I guess is just me playing GM.)

Post by **brian** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:57 am

Even more official (though not officially official) today. And looks like it is only Las Vegas for 2017-18.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:45 pm

they are seriously not giving Quebec City a team because of conference imbalance. Only the NHL.

Post by **brian** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:46 pm

degenerasian wrote:they are seriously not giving Quebec City a team because of conference imbalance. Only the NHL.

Honestly I think it's the Canadian dollar more than anything. If that situation improves maybe they'll add them for 2018-19.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:51 pm

brian wrote:
degenerasian wrote:they are seriously not giving Quebec City a team because of conference imbalance. Only the NHL.
Honestly I think it's the Canadian dollar more than anything. If that situation improves maybe they'll add them for 2018-19.

Perhaps but if that's the case Quebec will never get a team. It's at 78 now which isn't that bad. Some are predicting a 59 cent dollar in the near future.

Post by **brian** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:01 pm

degenerasian wrote:
brian wrote:
degenerasian wrote:they are seriously not giving Quebec City a team because of conference imbalance. Only the NHL.
Honestly I think it's the Canadian dollar more than anything. If that situation improves maybe they'll add them for 2018-19.
Perhaps but if that's the case Quebec will never get a team. It's at 78 now which isn't that bad. Some are predicting a 59 cent dollar in the near future.

If so, maybe another good reason to not have added them. As much as I hate to say it. One of the things that made Winnipeg viable again was the dollars getting closer to par. A 59-cent Canadian dollar I'm sure imperils some of the smaller Canadian markets on some level.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:10 pm

I bet Seattle would be awesome for an NHL team.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:13 pm

mister d wrote:I bet Seattle would be awesome for an NHL team.

Considering they were the first American team to win the Cup, sure.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:14 pm

mister d wrote:I bet Seattle would be awesome for an NHL team.

haven't they tried Seattle forever? there is no owner and no arena.

Post by **brian** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:17 pm

degenerasian wrote:
mister d wrote:I bet Seattle would be awesome for an NHL team.
haven't they tried Seattle forever? there is no owner and no arena.

A minor stumbling block.

(But yeah, even one of those things would be a start.)

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:46 pm

L-Jam3 wrote:
mister d wrote:I bet Seattle would be awesome for an NHL team.
Considering they were the first American team to win the Cup, sure.

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mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:56 pm

degenerasian wrote:
mister d wrote:I bet Seattle would be awesome for an NHL team.
haven't they tried Seattle forever? there is no owner and no arena.

You can build an ill advised arena anywhere, I'm speaking more to having a market to sustain a team.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:22 pm

mister d wrote:
degenerasian wrote:
mister d wrote:I bet Seattle would be awesome for an NHL team.
haven't they tried Seattle forever? there is no owner and no arena.
You can build an ill advised arena anywhere, I'm speaking more to having a market to sustain a team.

I think Kansas City would be a better choice if you're going to crowbar a team into a city.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:53 pm

Good article on the Vegas expansion, with some decent commentary on Quebec, too. Mostly stuff you already know, but fairly short and worth reading.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:47 am

Fuck the NHL. (said as a Canadian)

Post by **brian** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:31 am

Just learned the practice facility is going to be built a couple miles from my house. Maybe even less depending on where in the neighborhood they build it (though there's really only enough land on the west side of 215).

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:32 am

brian wrote:Just learned the practice facility is going to be built a couple miles from my house. Maybe even less depending on where in the neighborhood they build it (though there's really only enough land on the west side of 215).

Cool, I'm hanging at Brian's next time I'm in LV. I promise not to wear any Bernie apparel.

Post by **brian** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:33 pm

Bettman presser scheduled for 1 p.m. Pacific time on 6/22 at Encore Las Vegas.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:40 pm

Most shocking thing is he didn't schedule it for 3:00 PST.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 7:53 am

Any chance they'll have the mascot picked out by September?

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:14 am

brian wrote:Bettman presser scheduled for 1 p.m. Pacific time on 6/22 at Encore Las Vegas.

Maybe I'll sneak over so someone there is booing him.

Post by **brian** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:37 am

Giff wrote:Any chance they'll have the mascot picked out by September?

Almost none I'd guess. Probably would time it sometime in-season.

Post by **brian** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:46 pm

Giff wrote:Any chance they'll have the mascot picked out by September?

Actually looks like it MIGHT be done by then. Guess it depends on how quickly they decide on the mascot and NHL approval.

Post by **Sabo** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:27 am

Their team name has to be the bandits, right? And the mascot can only have one arm, right? And the missing arm is the left arm, right?

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:28 am

Sabo wrote:Their team name has to be the bandits, right? And the mascot can only have one arm, right? And the missing arm is the left arm, right?

That would be my pick. Have the right sleeve be one color of the main jersey and the left something neutral.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:16 pm

Is Gamblers too forward?

Post by **brian** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:21 pm

It's going to be either Black Knights or Knights.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:52 pm

press conference at 1pm Pacific. Quebec reps will be there too.

dun dun

Post by **brian** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:15 pm

Waited 111 years for a major sports team. Can wait another 10-15 minutes.

howard · Post by **howard** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:26 pm

There you go, Brian. $500 million. damn.

Post by **brian** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:27 pm

Glad it isn't my money. (Well, I guess it kinda is, but still....)

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:15 pm

"vegashashockey.com" is not a registered domain name. go get it Brian!

also The NHL won't prevent bets on games involving the Las Vegas team. Gary Bettman believes the sport isn't too susceptible to irregularities.

Post by **brian** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:17 pm

degenerasian wrote:"vegashashockey.com" is not a registered domain name. go get it Brian!

also The NHL won't prevent bets on games involving the Las Vegas team. Gary Bettman believes the sport isn't too susceptible to irregularities.

Eh, probably only a novelty for a week. However the previous website (www.vegaswantshockey.com) now redirects to www.vegasishockey.com

Post by **brian** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:19 pm

By the way, mine and Rams Fanny's tickets will probably be near the first few rows of the upper deck near centre ice. Should be great seats.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:21 pm

brian wrote:By the way, mine and Rams Fanny's tickets will probably be near the first few rows of the upper deck near centre ice. Should be great seats.

awesome, front of the upper deck anywhere are great seats. Mine are 7th row upper deck in the Flames attacking zone (hashmarks)

Post by **brian** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:38 pm

The biggest question to be worked out that really almost no one is talking about is that Las Vegas doesn't have a regional sports network. So it's a big, big question as to who is going to televise the games. Of course, there's a while to work that out, but Foley, in addition to having to put up $500M for the team and who knows how much for a practice facility and an entire front office, might have to start a regional sports network and work on getting it on cable, satellite, etc. Will be fascinating to see how that works out.

Post by **brian** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:57 pm

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:13 pm

I went and looked at the original expansion draft in 67. NHL expanding from 6 teams to 12. It was crazy, how do you make 6 teams from 6 teams?
But believe it or not, they got to protect more players then the current teams will next year. Three goalies went 1,2, 3. Sawchuk to LA Kings, Parent to Flyers and Hall to the Blues.

And all 6 teams were put in one division to ensure one of them would make the Stanley Cup Final! Can you imagine that happening now in the social media age!

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:24 pm

My tickets in San Jose are the first row of the upper deck, just inside the blue line. Great seats. Make sure you have good sight lines (check the aisles). And put yourself on the side your team attacks in the first and third periods. We checked on all that and I'm glad for it.