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1. Let's say that you were staying at the house with this backyard in Winter Park, FL in a couple of weeks, and there's no pool, and it's been deemed safe to swim in. Would you swim in that lake or allow your spawn to?

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2. What's the deal with bringing pot cookies on a plane? Is that safe?

3. What's the lesser of these two risks?
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On first one , no.

Two year old child dragged by alligator into lagoon at Disney's grand Floridian tonight. So, just no on Florida lake swimming. Even during day.
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Are they homemade or professional pot cookies?

As long as they don't reek of ganj, sealed in something air tight, and are in your checked bags you should be kosher.
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Three things. No. Don't swim there. No lake swimming in Fl.

Wrap your pot cookies like a present that you're delivering from Nana to your nephew Tom. Pack it in your checked luggage.

Eat at the Ravenous Pig while you're there. Cask and Larder is great too. Four Rivers for BBQ.
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No lake. Yes herb.
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Thanks, Swamp. These are exactly the answers I was hoping for.
Are they homemade or professional pot cookies?
Kind of a hybrid between those two things. Why does that matter?
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Jerloma wrote:Thanks, Swamp. These are exactly the answers I was hoping for.
Are they homemade or professional pot cookies?
Kind of a hybrid between those two things. Why does that matter?
Professional tend to smell more strongly of pot, at least those here in CO do. Also, I'd trust that you'd remove any incriminating packaging.
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1. No: You don't want your kids to die in a lake.

2. No: Unless you're flying solo and meeting them there or something, that's a really dumbshit risk to take.
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Back to this Disney incident, there's a big ass beach there, but you can't swim? Sounds like tempting fate.
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It's not marked "no swimming" as far as I know, but most Floridians know that swimming in lakes isn't the best of ideas. Can't imagine what this must have been like for the family.
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govmentchedda wrote:It's not marked "no swimming" as far as I know, but most Floridians know that swimming in lakes isn't the best of ideas. Can't imagine what this must have been like for the family.
There were signs warning people not to swim in the lagoon, he added, although the signs didn't specify why swimming was prohibited.


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govmentchedda wrote:It's not marked "no swimming" as far as I know
Pretty sure there are signs everywhere. At least there were on the Bay Lake side where we were.
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Although let me add that my kids may very well have walked 6 inches into the water and I wouldn't have thought/didn't think twice.
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Ryan wrote:Although let me add that my kids may very well have walked 6 inches into the water and I wouldn't have thought/didn't think twice.
Me too.

You hear stories about small dogs getting eaten/attacked near the shore line/in the water. They seem to know the size of what they're going after, and the likely speed and awareness of their prey. Alligators gonna alligate.
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I just spent the last 30 seconds wondering how long it will be until Disney puts underwater barriers off the shores, then remembering that alligators can walk on land too. That should be illegal.
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I never even considered for a second that Disney was building reports on lakes infested with alligators and they just build beaches on these lakes. The only surprising thing here is that it hasn't happened sooner.
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1.) Let the Evil One swim, but not the Ginger.

2.) Not worth the risk, IMO. I think you'd be better off having it in your carryon. Checked luggage goes through screening, and probably has dogs sniffing the luggage. On an X-ray, I assume they come out looking like regular cookies, and the TSA people looking at the carryon stuff won't stop it. You run the risk or a random drug dog walking through the airport picking up on it, but most of the wandering security dogs aren't drug sniffers. At least not on drug sniffing duty, they could be trained to detect drugs, though. Pretty much nothing prevents dogs from smelling weed. Air tight, exploded aeresol scent can, in a pool of hot sauce and they smell through it all.

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Jerloma wrote:I never even considered for a second that Disney was building reports on lakes infested with alligators and they just build beaches on these lakes. The only surprising thing here is that it hasn't happened sooner.
Infested is probably a strong word considering the hundreds of millions of people who have never come into contact with one.
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Ryan wrote:
govmentchedda wrote:It's not marked "no swimming" as far as I know
Pretty sure there are signs everywhere. At least there were on the Bay Lake side where we were.
The story I read highlighted that and then mentioned that the life guard was the one who called 911. If there is no swimming why the life guard?
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wlu_lax6 wrote:
Ryan wrote:
govmentchedda wrote:It's not marked "no swimming" as far as I know
Pretty sure there are signs everywhere. At least there were on the Bay Lake side where we were.
The story I read highlighted that and then mentioned that the life guard was the one who called 911. If there is no swimming why the life guard?
In case the signs are spelled wrong?
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The Sybian wrote:Not worth the risk, IMO. I think you'd be better off having it in your carryon. Checked luggage goes through screening, and probably has dogs sniffing the luggage. On an X-ray, I assume they come out looking like regular cookies, and the TSA people looking at the carryon stuff won't stop it. You run the risk or a random drug dog walking through the airport picking up on it, but most of the wandering security dogs aren't drug sniffers. At least not on drug sniffing duty, they could be trained to detect drugs, though. Pretty much nothing prevents dogs from smelling weed. Air tight, exploded aeresol scent can, in a pool of hot sauce and they smell through it all.
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Of course you let your kids swim. When did we get so pussified as a country to deny children the simple pleasure of a swim in a lake? If a gator takes one then at least you have another one as a backup. And you can be happy that you contributed in a small way to the circle of life. Gators gotta eat too.
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brian wrote:Of course you let your kids swim. When did we get so pussified as a country to deny children the simple pleasure of a swim in a lake? If a gator takes one then at least you have another one as a backup. And you can be happy that you contributed in a small way to the circle of life. Gators gotta eat too.
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Alligators don't kill people. Shallow water and the rotation of the earth allowing for darkness kills people.
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Eat all the cookies before going through security.
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I have a brother-in-law who lives on a fairly small lake in Jacksonville. Now, the key here is that he lives in a neighborhood community of full time residents. These people know the lake and it would be very difficult for a gator to show up and not be noticed/dealt with.

We routinely swim in that lake, as do the majority of the other folks.

So, I guess what I'm saying is check with folks that know the area. It's my understanding that gators aren't really into lakes. They like fairly shallow bodies of water, like ponds, swamps (duh), rivers, marshes, etc. I'm not saying they don't hang out in/around lakes... But I don't think that's their typical habitat.
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Just don't feed the pot brownies to the gators, cuz that will make them hunger more for swimming children.
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The Sybian wrote:1.) Let the Evil One swim, but not the Ginger.
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Nonlinear FC wrote:I have a brother-in-law who lives on a fairly small lake in Jacksonville. Now, the key here is that he lives in a neighborhood community of full time residents. These people know the lake and it would be very difficult for a gator to show up and not be noticed/dealt with.

We routinely swim in that lake, as do the majority of the other folks.

So, I guess what I'm saying is check with folks that know the area. It's my understanding that gators aren't really into lakes. They like fairly shallow bodies of water, like ponds, swamps (duh), rivers, marshes, etc. I'm not saying they don't hang out in/around lakes... But I don't think that's their typical habitat.
100% incorrect on the bolded part.

However, I do agree with the lake in the neighborhood thoughts. A residential lake would likely have a lot of people who would know if there was a gator around. It's not like they don't come out to bask in the sun. It would be surprising for someone to get attacked without others having seen the gator first.

Don't get me wrong, people waterski, float, swim, etc. in Florida lakes, but you'll never catch me doing it.
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govmentchedda wrote:
Nonlinear FC wrote:I have a brother-in-law who lives on a fairly small lake in Jacksonville. Now, the key here is that he lives in a neighborhood community of full time residents. These people know the lake and it would be very difficult for a gator to show up and not be noticed/dealt with.

We routinely swim in that lake, as do the majority of the other folks.

So, I guess what I'm saying is check with folks that know the area. It's my understanding that gators aren't really into lakes. They like fairly shallow bodies of water, like ponds, swamps (duh), rivers, marshes, etc. I'm not saying they don't hang out in/around lakes... But I don't think that's their typical habitat.
100% incorrect on the bolded part.

However, I do agree with the lake in the neighborhood thoughts. A residential lake would likely have a lot of people who would know if there was a gator around. It's not like they don't come out to bask in the sun. It would be surprising for someone to get attacked without others having seen the gator first.

Don't get me wrong, people waterski, float, swim, etc. in Florida lakes, but you'll never catch me doing it.

Yeah, I think back on things... Pretty sure my BIL was bullshitting us so we wouldn't worry about being in the water.
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The search for the missing/eaten two year old at Disney seems like an exercise in futility to me.
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PR damage control. Pretty tough to just say the kid got ate and open the rides (like they ever stopped).
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J-Lo, I didn't even think twice on Friday. They look like normal cookies and no noticeable smell.
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Giff wrote:J-Lo, I didn't even think twice on Friday. They look like normal cookies and no noticeable smell.
Yeah I think they smell more like peanut butter than anything. Did you put it in your carry on or luggage?
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Carry it on. Throw it in with a banana and a sandwich so it just looks like you're carrying lunch. Buncha rookies around here.
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Let's say its a 1/100 chance of anything negative happening. With kids, is that really a smart (willful) decision to make?

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D's got a point. Have one of the girls carry it.
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There we go.
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