The Weather

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:20 am

WINTER STORM WARNING, WINTER STORM WARNING. WE MAY GET UP TO A TENTH OF ICE TONIGHT AND TOMORROW. I KNOW YOU HEATHENS DON'T PRAY, BUT PLEASE KEEP MY FAMILY IN YOUR THOUGHTS. I'M SO FRIGHTENED.

(This is both a nod to the long-running joke about my safety AND the news freaking the hell out since Tuesday when they knew this was a possibility)

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:24 am

Giff wrote:WINTER STORM WARNING, WINTER STORM WARNING. WE MAY GET UP TO A TENTH OF ICE TONIGHT AND TOMORROW. I KNOW YOU HEATHENS DON'T PRAY, BUT PLEASE KEEP MY FAMILY IN YOUR THOUGHTS. I'M SO FRIGHTENED.

(This is both a nod to the long-running joke about my safety AND the news freaking the hell out since Tuesday when they knew this was a possibility)

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:24 am

I hate that YouTube is blocked.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:25 am

Giff wrote:I hate that YouTube is blocked.

It's the "gotta get the bread and milk" freak out.

Post by **Shirley** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:54 am

Supposed to get between 2-8" of snow today. And this time they mean it.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:23 am

FUCK IT'S COLD.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:25 am

For the fifth or so time this month, I can honestly say that THIS is the coldest that I have ever felt Toronto.

Windchills of -37 celsius (-34 fahrenheit) today and tonight's low will be -22 celsius (-8 fahrenheit) with winds gusting to 20 mph.

I blame Rob Ford.

Post by **brian** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:59 am

68 here today. And tomorrow. And the day after. And the day after that. And...

Well, you get the idea.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:30 am

Pruitt wrote:For the fifth or so time this month, I can honestly say that THIS is the coldest that I have ever felt Toronto.

Windchills of -37 celsius (-34 fahrenheit) today and tonight's low will be -22 celsius (-8 fahrenheit) with winds gusting to 20 mph.

I blame Rob Ford.

yeah the east is getting killed.
It was really nice last week here in Calgary. +10 and almost all the snow has melted. -10 today feels colder but nothing compared to you guys.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:38 am

Pruitt wrote:For the fifth or so time this month, I can honestly say that THIS is the coldest that I have ever felt Toronto.

Windchills of -37 celsius (-34 fahrenheit) today and tonight's low will be -22 celsius (-8 fahrenheit) with winds gusting to 20 mph.

I blame Rob Ford.

I'm no math guy, but how is it a 3 degree difference between F and C?

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:42 am

BSF21 wrote:
Pruitt wrote:For the fifth or so time this month, I can honestly say that THIS is the coldest that I have ever felt Toronto.

Windchills of -37 celsius (-34 fahrenheit) today and tonight's low will be -22 celsius (-8 fahrenheit) with winds gusting to 20 mph.

I blame Rob Ford.

I'm no math guy, but how is it a 3 degree difference between F and C?

At -42 or so, Fahrenheit and Celsius meet. You multiply and then add to convert, so you can imagine that once you get into negatives, you'll even out at some point.

Post by **brian** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:42 am

BSF21 wrote:
Pruitt wrote:For the fifth or so time this month, I can honestly say that THIS is the coldest that I have ever felt Toronto.

Windchills of -37 celsius (-34 fahrenheit) today and tonight's low will be -22 celsius (-8 fahrenheit) with winds gusting to 20 mph.

I blame Rob Ford.

I'm no math guy, but how is it a 3 degree difference between F and C?

When jt gets that cold, the scales actually start to merge. Seriously. Just a little colder than that and C and F are exactly the same temp.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:52 am

Well I feel dumb.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:57 am

BSF21 wrote:Well I feel dumb.

The Swamp is all about personal enrichment. Learn something every day!

EDIT: An easy way (I believe) to think of it is that at some point, 9/5 of a negative number will be -32. So you'll multiply to go 32 more degrees into the negative, and then add 32 to get right back to where you started.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:03 pm

yup then it goes in reverse

-60C = -76F

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:26 pm

brian wrote:When jt gets that cold, the scales actually start to merge. Seriously. Just a little colder than that and C and F are exactly the same temp.

They're always the same temperature.

This whole tangent has been a perfect example of how miserably metric failed in Canada. "Oh, what's the temperature?" It's -16. "Errrr, what's that in real degrees?" And then everyone tries to figure out what it is in real degrees.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:41 pm

Scottie wrote: This whole tangent has been a perfect example of how miserably metric failed in Canada. "Oh, what's the temperature?" It's -16. "Errrr, what's that in real degrees?"

257.15

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:46 pm

Rush2112 wrote:
Scottie wrote: This whole tangent has been a perfect example of how miserably metric failed in Canada. "Oh, what's the temperature?" It's -16. "Errrr, what's that in real degrees?"
257.15

Typical librarian, always bringing the Dewey Decimal System into a conversation.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:56 pm

257 is no longer used (it used to be Parochial schools and libraries)

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:08 pm

Rush2112 wrote:
Scottie wrote: This whole tangent has been a perfect example of how miserably metric failed in Canada. "Oh, what's the temperature?" It's -16. "Errrr, what's that in real degrees?"
257.15

Thanks, Kelvin.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:08 pm

Scottie wrote:
brian wrote:When jt gets that cold, the scales actually start to merge. Seriously. Just a little colder than that and C and F are exactly the same temp.
They're always the same temperature.

This whole tangent has been a perfect example of how miserably metric failed in Canada. "Oh, what's the temperature?" It's -16. "Errrr, what's that in real degrees?" And then everyone tries to figure out what it is in real degrees.

It's starting to go the other way now. nobody under 45 knows what real degrees is.

Feet and inches, now that's real measurements everyone still uses.

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:18 pm

degenerasian wrote:It's starting to go the other way now. nobody under 45 knows what real degrees is.

45? Uh-uh. Nobody under 25 maybe.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:23 pm

The pushing 30 crowd was all Celsius when I was last there. The gf doesn't really know either. I have to actually explain how hot or cold it will be every time we travel.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:28 pm

Scottie wrote:
degenerasian wrote:It's starting to go the other way now. nobody under 45 knows what real degrees is.
45? Uh-uh. Nobody under 25 maybe.

I started grade 1 in 1982 and they had already been teaching Celcius for years.

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:33 pm

Gunpowder wrote:The pushing 30 crowd was all Celsius when I was last there. The gf doesn't really know either. I have to actually explain how hot or cold it will be every time we travel.

In the tropical belt? Just like Florida.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:33 pm

P.D.X. wrote:
Gunpowder wrote:The pushing 30 crowd was all Celsius when I was last there. The gf doesn't really know either. I have to actually explain how hot or cold it will be every time we travel.
In the tropical belt? Just like Florida.

The tropics are fine. It's trips back north that need to be explained when it comes time to pack.

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:51 pm

degenerasian wrote:I started grade 1 in 1982 and they had already been teaching Celcius for years.

Doesn't matter. I was in grade four or something when commie Celsius was inflicted on this country. Of course it was taught. They went out of their way to teach it because of the metric shit-tonne of money that the perpetrudeaus threw at it believing they could indoctrinate kids and all future kids. It failed. Kid goes to school, the teacher tells them they are 180 millimeters tall and then they go home and their parents tell 'em that they're 5'0" and weigh 110-pounds.

Pretendsy provincial school language immersion fails for the same reason. Gurpall goes to an hour of solid English and when he goes home he hears nothing but Punjabi. Learns next to nothing.

It was FORTY-FOUR FUCKING YEARS AGO that the liberals introduced this shit. The fact that it is not 100% common currency in Canada now after almost half a century says it is a failure. Period. The fact that it is probably less than 50% in use means it is an unmitigated failure. Even people that use it still translate it. Here, you're at a grocery store. "Okay . . . 0.435 kilograms is, ummm, why is this expressed as a fucking decimal??? Anyway, that's about . . . one pound maybe or something and I want four and a half pounds . . . so that's . . . ah, fuck this. Gimme four pounds. You figure it out."

This is the failure point. Stores sell shit in lots of 0.4535 kilograms. Which means they are selling in pounds. Which ain't fucking metric. It's a senseless workaround. If they were selling in metric units, they'd be selling 500 grams.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:05 pm

Aha maybe that's it because my parents came from a metric country so I got it both at school and at home.

As you all know I measure girl's chest sizes as 90.

rass · Post by **rass** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:33 pm

Shirley wrote:Supposed to get between 2-8" of snow today. And this time they mean it.

hahahahahahahaha

My sister is in NC, and sent me a picture of the completely empty bread aisle at her local supermarket.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:32 pm

My wife was telling me that they declared a state of emergency in Atlanta and that kids were stuck in school. My sister lives in Atlanta, so my wife was all worried about them. I looked at The Weather Channel and Atlanta had severe weather advisories. Expected accumulation MAY REACH UP TO 1 INCH! That is 2.54 cm for Scottie.

ETA: So Canuckistanians, you guys don't use Celsius in standard weather conversation? I thought metric was pretty standard there. Everything is in km WRT driving distances and speed limits, right? All food items are labeled in metric, right? I remember as a kid, maybe in 2nd grade, learning that metric would be standard in the US by the time I was an adult. Guess that went the way of Esperanto, eh?

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:38 pm

The Sybian wrote:ETA: So Canuckistanians, you guys don't use Celsius in standard weather conversation? I thought metric was pretty standard there. Everything is in km WRT driving distances and speed limits, right? All food items are labeled in metric, right? I remember as a kid, maybe in 2nd grade, learning that metric would be standard in the US by the time I was an adult. Guess that went the way of Esperanto, eh?

Yep. Esperanto and global warming.

Posted signs are in KMs, yes. But, as I said, it just means everyone has to translate that to real numbers. You see a 100 KM per hour speed limit sign and your brain immediately tells you "that's 60 MPH". You see a roadside distance sign that says "Edmonton 242 km" and your brain painfully determines that Edmonton is therefore 150 miles away.

Weather? I know how that translates relatively well. But I still reflexively translate it manually, brainually. Someone says it's 16 degrees outside and I immediately double it and add 30. "Oh, so it's around 62." And if I someone talking to me says "Oh, it's 16 degrees right now", I will reflexively tell them ""Oh, so it's around 62 real degrees, eh?"

Food is labelled in metric but, as I said, it is laughable since it is a direct translation of imperial so you end up having to translate it back to what it is supposed to be. "Oh, I see that's 374.2 milliliters or whatever". Just call it 8 fucking ounces. 374.2 milliliters is a joke of a figure. It's 374.2 milliliters because IT IS 8 FUCKING OUNCES.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:26 am

I'm the opposite of Scottie, I'm metric.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:12 am

Scottie wrote:
Posted signs are in KMs, yes. But, as I said, it just means everyone has to translate that to real numbers. You see a 100 KM per hour speed limit sign and your brain immediately tells you "that's 60 MPH". You see a roadside distance sign that says "Edmonton 242 km" and your brain painfully determines that Edmonton is therefore 150 miles away.

Weather? I know how that translates relatively well. But I still reflexively translate it manually, brainually. Someone says it's 16 degrees outside and I immediately double it and add 30. "Oh, so it's around 62." And if I someone talking to me says "Oh, it's 16 degrees right now", I will reflexively tell them ""Oh, so it's around 62 real degrees, eh?"

Food is labelled in metric but, as I said, it is laughable since it is a direct translation of imperial so you end up having to translate it back to what it is supposed to be. "Oh, I see that's 374.2 milliliters or whatever". Just call it 8 fucking ounces. 374.2 milliliters is a joke of a figure. It's 374.2 milliliters because IT IS 8 FUCKING OUNCES.

That is fascinating. Does Canada do that to fuck with Americans? Do younger Canadians still translate, or are they metric natives? Did your time living in the US affect your view? Why am I so interested in this?

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:17 am

Younger Canadians in London, ON used Celsius. I'm not sure what they used for other units of measure, but next time I'm there I'm going to pay attention. I do think I heard some stuff about miles but I'm not sure because I wasn't really paying much mind to it.

They also seemed like they stayed mostly in that area for their entire lives, which probably has a lot to do with it.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:25 am

Gunpowder wrote:Younger Canadians in London, ON used Celsius. I'm not sure what they used for other units of measure, but next time I'm there I'm going to pay attention. I do think I heard some stuff about miles but I'm not sure because I wasn't really paying much mind to it.

They also seemed like they stayed mostly in that area for their entire lives, which probably has a lot to do with it.

When you are in London, ON, why would you leave? I found the same thing for Buffalo natives, so maybe it is a Great Lakes thing. I did have a confounding variable going to a school in Buffalo, so everyone I met stayed local for school.

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:42 am

I'm 35 and recall the measurements lessons of elementary/junior high math classes being accompanied by riffs from the teacher on the superiority of the metric system and how stupid the US was for not adopting it.

I remember that 100 is boiling, 0 is freezing and around 20(?) is room temperature, but that's about it.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:53 am

From talking to 30somethings it's a bit of a mix.

Distance: KM. Edmonton is 300km from Calgary, nobody says that in miles, also we drive 110km/hr on the transcanada, not miles
Length: definitely yards, feet and inches
Area: square feet
Volume: Litres and mililitres (we buy gas in Litres)
Weight: pounds and ounces (although I buy meat in grams, we don't do the 0.435 kilograms thing here in Calgary, Scottie. It's 1 or 0.5)
Tempurature: Celcius

Am I missing anything?

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:55 am

Does the handjob seminar tell you that 15 centimeters is average?

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:58 pm

"Wait, I actually have to do shit?" --every big-city mayor after a weather emergency

howard · Post by **howard** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:59 pm

So Awesome: