MLB Offseason 2016-17

[mister d]

Adding Giolito and Moncado (and everyone else) really puts the Yankees' deadline to shame.

[EnochRoot]

Adding Giolito and Moncado (and everyone else) really puts the Yankees' deadline to shame.

Eh. The White Sox had the #23 ranked farm system post trade deadline. The Yankees had the 13th ranked post draft, and a lot of sources cite the Yankees as the best system in the sport (now, with Sanchez in MLB).

[mister d]

Yeah, but Chicago just put two on top of the Yankees best, plus still have Quintana and Robertson and who knows who else to go.

[EnochRoot]

Yeah, but Chicago just put two on top of the Yankees best, plus still have Quintana and Robertson and who knows who else to go.

Torres is still a ways out, but I'm feeling safe out on this limb saying that he'll be better than Moncada. I'm not sure who else you're saying out of those gets are even better than any of the Yankees top 3.

I mean, the only player that the Yankees could've dealt this off season is Robinson Cano, but they let him walk a few years ago for nothing...

I'm holding out hope they don't blow the bank on Chapman. It's not the right time.

[mister d]

I meant the Sox still have a lot to deal. I imagine we'll trade Gardner somewhere and I wouldn't be all that upset if we cashed in Tanaka if he pulls anything close to a Sale package.

And yes, F Chapman.

[sancarlos]

I'm assuming Sale will have a clause in his Red Sox contract giving him approval on uniforms. But, no throwbacks, since Boston hasn't changed uniforms for 100 years.

[rass]

I'm holding out hope they don't blow the bank on Chapman. It's not the right time.

Define "blow".

[mister d]

If the full NTC for the first 3 years report is real, I don't get it at all beyond "we have infinite money, a reliever doesn't block a prospect and it didn't cost a draft pick". Which I guess is fine, there's no true harm, but it doesn't fit the plan.



(Unless he's buddies with Machado and/or Harper. Then it makes total sense.)

[tennbengal]

If the full NTC for the first 3 years report is real, I don't get it at all beyond "we have infinite money, a reliever doesn't block a prospect and it didn't cost a draft pick". Which I guess is fine, there's no true harm, but it doesn't fit the plan.



(Unless he's buddies with Machado and/or Harper. Then it makes total sense.)

I just assume it was baseball karma for you bagging on Sale being an asshole, the Yankees re-acquiring Chapman 24 hours later.

[Ryan]

And they don't have Moncada either

[mister d]

Also don't have Dombrowski ; )

[Steve of phpBB]

So the Yanks got Gleyber Torres for basically nothing.

On the other hand, Chapman was good for a .409 WPA in Game Five, which was kind of important. I'm still fine with the trade.

[sancarlos]

Matt Holliday must have really loved playing for the Oakland Athletics!

Matt Holliday just signed a one-year deal with the New York Yankees.

If for some reason the Yankees are out of contention and they look to trade some veterans at the deadline, there is regrettably one team they can't trade the veteran slugger to: his former team, the Oakland Athletics.

Yes, for those of you who forgot, Matt Holliday spent a small period of time in Oakland back in 2009.

He must have loved it!

The Rockies traded Holliday to the A's in November of 2008, and then in July of 2009, they shipped him to St. Louis. Holliday played 93 games in an A's uniform, hitting .286 with 11 home runs and 54 RBI.

The fact Holliday singled out one team for his no-trade clause is hilarious. Oakland probably won't contend and need the services of Holliday anyway, but there seems to be a little resentment all these years later after spending half a season in the horrible confines of the Oakland Coliseum.

[Steve of phpBB]

Oh, Dex. I'll miss you, but I know it had to happen. We're just looking for different things at this point in our lives. You want security and a long-term commitment, and I just couldn't give you that.

Dammit.

[Ryan]

Mike Trout is 23rd all-time in WAR accumulated through his age-27 season. He has 3 seasons more to go.

h/t Fangraphs

It's an interesting spot too, because everyone above him is a Tier 1 legend but right below him are some guys that petered out

[mister d]

I can't access it, but that's gotta be the Conigliaro/Horner group, right?

[Ryan]

25. Andruw Jones
31. Vada Pinson
32. Cesar Cedeno
38. Jim Fregosi
43. Evan Longoria

The only other active guy in the Top 100 still not yet 27 is Heyward. As long as he doesn't go backwards this year, he'll finish with more WAR from age 20-27 than Miguel Cabrera

[mister d]

Seems like a good reason to sort by offensive WAR.

[mister d]

And I'm still convinced that if I were born 30 years earlier, Pinson would have been my favorite player ever.

[Sabo]

This makes me happy.

Edwin Encarnacion agrees to three-year (with team option) deal with Indians.

[mister d]

Weird to see how the league shifts to make bad decisions as a group on one player type and much better decisions on another.

[A_B]

So, the Cubs are going to be able to celebrate with Obama, which provides a nice cover since he's from Chicago, right? Surely they're doing this as much anti-Trump as anything?

And I think it's pretty cool, tbh.

[sancarlos]

Supposedly Santiago Casilla is about to sign on with Oakland. Nice for him, as he won't have to move his family, and he will have very few save opportunities to blow.

[Steve of phpBB]

So, the Cubs are going to be able to celebrate with Obama, which provides a nice cover since he's from Chicago, right? Surely they're doing this as much anti-Trump as anything?

And I think it's pretty cool, tbh.

As much as I'd like to think it was an anti-Trump move, I have my doubts. The Cubs' ownership has been a big contributor to Trump - after first contributing tons of money to Scott Walker. And my impression is that white male athletes tend to be politically conservative, so they probably aren't anti-Trump.

I really do think it is a Chicago thing. Either way I'm glad to see it.

[EnochRoot]

Really poor man's Hardball Times or Baseball Prospectus here...

The AL guides are ready now, and the NL team guides will be ready later or into next week.

[mister d]

Klaw's top 100 is coming out this week, 20 at a time, from top to bottom. With Judge at 44, Yankees are going to have 6 inside the top 100. Having young players is fun and new and fun.

[brian]

Penalties come down for Cardinal hacking.

Top two draft picks conveyed to Houston and $2M fine, also going directly to Houston.

[wlu_lax6]

Nats sign Joe Nathan and Matt Albers

[mister d]

What's the rule about debts dying with the person, again?

[Joe K]

What's the rule about debts dying with the person, again?

That area of the law isn't my forte but I do know that some states have laws specifically providing that you can sue the estate of a decedent for wrongful death. Florida may be one of them given the Fernandez suit. I imagine the theory is that the purpose of wrongful death suits is to compensate the victims' surviving family members for their loss rather than to punish the wrongdoer. So in Fernandez's case, if he actually was at fault, then the family members of his buddies shouldn't lose their legal remedy.

[mister d]

That was actually a Miguel Cabrera joke.