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Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:09 pm
by A_B
I just don't get the need to shoplift. You are getting an all expenses d paid trip to china. Why steal shit? Enjoy the experience and go home. So so weird.

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:17 pm
by sancarlos
It's good to have connections.
Freshman LiAngelo Ball, the younger brother of Los Angeles Lakers rookie Lonzo Ball, and two UCLA men’s basketball teammates were released on bail early Wednesday morning in Hangzhou, China, after being arrested the previous day for allegedly shoplifting...Ball and freshmen Cody Riley and Jalen Hill remained at a luxury hotel in Hangzhou , a source told ESPN...

The trio is being required by local police to stay at the hotel until the legal process is complete while their Bruins teammates traveled to Shanghai for the team’s season opener Friday (American time) against Georgia Tech, according to ESPN.

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:53 pm
by wlu_lax6
So the trio is coming home. What political costs did the US have to do to help on this one. Reports say there is video. You have to kick them off the team right? Maybe school?

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:19 pm
by mister d
Oh yeah, UCLA will definitely be kicking Ball off the team. Any minute now.

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:24 pm
by tennbengal
wlu_lax6 wrote:So the trio is coming home. What political costs did the US have to do to help on this one. Reports say there is video. You have to kick them off the team right? Maybe school?


Um, no?

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:25 pm
by brian
What would the suspension be if they did it in the States? A game? So maybe double it because it was overseas and there you are.

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:28 pm
by Brontoburglar
tennbengal wrote:
wlu_lax6 wrote:So the trio is coming home. What political costs did the US have to do to help on this one. Reports say there is video. You have to kick them off the team right? Maybe school?


Um, no?


the bolded part is a degen-in-politics level thought

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:46 pm
by wlu_lax6
brian wrote:What would the suspension be if they did it in the States? A game? So maybe double it because it was overseas and there you are.

Thomas Finnie of Miami got booted from the football team for a $500 laptop theft.
Peter Warrick got 2 game suspension for the Dilliards incident.
L. Coles got booted from the team for Dilliards event.

In 2010 UCLA expelled 3 football players for felony theft.

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:47 pm
by mister d
Whoa, gonna be tough for anyone to counter those five examples of serious ramifications over that last 20 years.

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:59 pm
by DSafetyGuy
Paragon of virtue Steve Alford at the helm, so let's see....

All three sat out the Georgia Tech game in China.

Two more games would mean they sit out guarantee games at home against Central Arkansas and South Carolina State.

They could mercifully be reinstated in time to play against Creighton in the Hall of Fame Classic in Kansas City on national television (and #25 Baylor or Wisconsin the following night, also on national television if they win and make the championship game).

So, three games total sounds about right.

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:33 pm
by sancarlos
Here's betting/hoping that the students at opposing schools find some imaginative chants/taunts/outfits to use at UCLA's away games.

Lock them up! Lock them up! Lock them up!

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:52 pm
by A_B
Big Burglar Brand.

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:59 pm
by brian
A_B wrote:Big Burglar Brand.


Yeah that’s good.

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:14 am
by wlu_lax6
ESPN wrote:Sources told ESPN that university officials are debating whether to suspend LiAngelo Ball, Cody Riley and Jalen Hill anywhere from half of the season up to the full season. Multiple major donors have called the school with their thoughts on the situation, according to sources.


Donors shared their thoughts....color more shocked...shocked I tell you.

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:15 am
by brian
If they're thinking in terms of half seasons, then they should just suspend them for the entire non-conference schedule. Doubt anyone would argue that isn't unreasonable.

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:21 pm
by DSafetyGuy
The fun thing about "indefinite" is you can have stuff like Krzyzewski suspending Greyson Allen indefinitely last season and bringing him back after they lost the first game without him, but they talked and stuff.

"There are things that you see or the public see, and there are things that you all don't see and shouldn't see or shouldn't be talked about, and they're called teachings. You don't need to teach out in the public all the time."

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:30 pm
by sancarlos
DSafetyGuy wrote:The fun thing about "indefinite" is you can have stuff like Krzyzewski suspending Greyson Allen indefinitely last season and bringing him back after they lost the first game without him, but they talked and stuff.

"There are things that you see or the public see, and there are things that you all don't see and shouldn't see or shouldn't be talked about, and they're called teachings. You don't need to teach out in the public all the time."

Exactly. I bet this suspension lasts until they need those guys to win.

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:33 pm
by A_B
I probably shouldn't, but I'm going to give UCLA the benefit of the doubt that they will make this hurt because it was a fucking international incident for chrissakes.

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:35 pm
by DSafetyGuy
A_B wrote:I probably shouldn't, but I'm going to give UCLA the benefit of the doubt that they will make this hurt because it was a fucking international incident for chrissakes.


How quickly will it be forgotten? Gonna guess for most who don't follow college basketball, pretty damn soon. Keeping them suspended is the only way it has any extended life.

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:39 pm
by mister d
Nah, its pretty smart. A suspension of 5 games will have people screaming its too light. If they're back after 5 games of indefinite suspension in two weeks, 75% of people who would scream will have moved on.

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:51 pm
by A_B
So it was all freshman...what are the chances this comes out as some kind of rookie hazing/dares?

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:57 pm
by wlu_lax6
A_B wrote:So it was all freshman...what are the chances this comes out as some kind of rookie hazing/dares?

That would makes complete sense

Of course you had to guess an article like this would pop up too.
https://sports.yahoo.com/former-footbal ... 29198.html

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:33 pm
by brian
Giff wrote:Can't wait to watch Matt Bullard's son!


Gonna have to wait until next season unfortunately.

I was hoping he'd be able to step right in as this is a young team, but they're actually doing really well so think they figure a redshirt year is the way to go.

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:41 pm
by Giff
brian wrote:
Giff wrote:Can't wait to watch Matt Bullard's son!


Gonna have to wait until next season unfortunately.

I was hoping he'd be able to step right in as this is a young team, but they're actually doing really well so think they figure a redshirt year is the way to go.


Cool story, though!

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:41 am
by Nonlinear FC
MI has a kind of weird hodge-podge team this year, but they just beat Texas on the road after a crazy OT win at home over UCLA. Just putting a pin on this win, because I suspect they're going to be a bubble team and this week is likely what puts them in the big dance.

Re: NCAA College Hoops 2016/2017

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:29 am
by Pruitt
DSafetyGuy wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:35 pm
A_B wrote:I probably shouldn't, but I'm going to give UCLA the benefit of the doubt that they will make this hurt because it was a fucking international incident for chrissakes.
How quickly will it be forgotten? Gonna guess for most who don't follow college basketball, pretty damn soon. Keeping them suspended is the only way it has any extended life.
Remember how the great man took care of the problem and then prematurely complained that the players wouldn't thank him?

He Had Nothing To Do With It