2017 NFL Offseason

rass · Post by **rass** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:16 am

And we're off!

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:04 am

Post by **Sabo** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:40 am

Supposedly he spit on a nurse while in jail.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/ ... /96099598/

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:27 pm

Rex career(?) obit from an ex-Jets beat writer.

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:00 pm

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:35 pm

Sure, but what's Chris Berman have to do with it?

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:49 pm

Spanos will be the most hated man in his hometown, with no offset from L.A., where they won't even give a shit.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:20 pm

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:40 pm

I'll be really impressed if the next coach can win with the 49ers. The talent just isn't there, anymore.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:23 am

sancarlos wrote:I'll be really impressed if the next coach can win with the 49ers. The talent just isn't there, anymore.

He can take Jimmy G with him, potentially...for a price.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:53 am

The Jimmy G thing is the only reason I could see him going to SF. Gets a player he's coached for cheap for a year, plus can negotiate. Another bonus is that he gets to build it in his image and not piss off everyone like he did in Denver as there is no one that's a fan favorite/star.

If he waits for a year he would have to bid for Jimmy G, and who knows who's open next year. Arizona maybe? Colts?

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:10 am

Apparently Doug Whaley was actually involved in hiring new Bills HC Sean McDermott.

I've been through too many new coach hirings to have an opinion until mid November 2017.

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:30 am

Rex wrote:Sure, but what's Chris Berman have to do with it?

(checks roster)

You're with me Carrethers!

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:34 am

Rush2112 wrote:The Jimmy G thing is the only reason I could see him going to SF. Gets a player he's coached for cheap for a year, plus can negotiate. Another bonus is that he gets to build it in his image and not piss off everyone like he did in Denver as there is no one that's a fan favorite/star.

If he waits for a year he would have to bid for Jimmy G, and who knows who's open next year. Arizona maybe? Colts?

Assuming that it would require giving up one or more more draft picks from the first half of their draft, the 49ers would be nuts to trade for Garropolo this offseason. They had a historically awful defense this year -- dead last in rushing yards allowed, total yards allowed, and points allowed, while allowing opposing QBs to average a 97 QB Rating. Even with Pro Bowl-caliber QB play, I doubt they could've won more that 5 or 6 games max. They need to use their early draft picks on accumulating high-end defensive talent and use 2017 as a rebuilding year to get that young talent experience. (In my opinion, Myles Garrett or Jonathan Allen #2 overall is a no-brainer.) If they trade the picks for Garoppolo or, alternatively, use the #2 pick on a QB, they may have a better offense, but it'll be nowhere good enough to counterbalance such a bad defense.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:11 am

I also think that McDaniels will wait until he gets a very, very positive situation to leave after how poorly things went in Denver. Is he really going to become a worse head coaching candidate by staying in New England and possibly getting more titles as an OC while working with Brady and Belichick, not to mention continuing to distance himself from the Denver flameout at the same time? He's only 40 years old. Maybe he will just wait out Belichick and take over NE down the line.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:41 am

Did LA really need another NFL team?

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:46 pm

Nope.

From everything I can read Spanos is convinced that the team will be worth more in LA and even though the NFL would likely rather keep the team in SD (if for no other reason than to leave LA open as a possible relocation threat for other teams), enough of the other owners like Spanos and/or feel like they sort of screwed him over by siding with the Rams' LA stadium plan instead of the Chargers/Raiders plan that they're willing to let him do what he wants here (plus he'll be paying them all millions of dollars to move, too). Dumb.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:54 pm

pass wrote:... they're willing to let him do what he wants here (plus he'll be paying them all millions of dollars to move, too). Dumb.

IIRC, they gave him the LA option when they sided with the Rams a year ago. So, they really can't deny his right to exercise it.

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:07 pm

Yeah, this sucks. I'm originally from the L.A. area and the Chargers sort of became my team by default when the Rams/Raiders left, but I didn't want this at all. You can make fun of their relatively lukewarm levels of fan support, but that team's identity was tied to San Diego.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:11 pm

sancarlos wrote:Spanos will be the most hated man in his hometown, with no offset from L.A., where they won't even give a shit.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:21 pm

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:55 pm

So basically...

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:20 pm

He's 30. Turning 31 this year.

Rams Fanny · Post by **Rams Fanny** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:19 pm

I find it hard to believe this is the best the Rams could do. Does Kronke think he's reaching Millennials with this? Tough to envision how he can get older veterans on board. Having Kirk Cousins throw incomplete fades to Desean Jackson hardly seems like a criteria for taking over a team in the second largest media market.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:42 pm

Say it with me..."You play to win the game!"

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:51 pm

Are the Chargers really angling to be the Chivas USA of the NFL?

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:50 pm

Johnnie wrote:

He's 30. Turning 31 this year.

And, the Rams just hired Wade Phillips to be defensive coordinator. He'll turn 70 this year. So, nearly 40 years older than his boss.

I like the Broncos' hire of Vance Joseph, but I'm sorry to see Wade go.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:59 pm

sancarlos wrote:
I like the Broncos' hire of Vance Joseph, but I'm sorry to see Wade go.

Not apprehensive after the last young hot coordinator worked out so well? My coworker likes his ties to CO, but just one year as a DC? I know Miami had injuries, but not like that D set the world on fire. I guess he does have Elway to throw ideas off, and who he hires as his coordinators, but i am surprised that Wade left, especially because they'd worked together with Texans.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:44 pm

Rush2112 wrote:
sancarlos wrote:
I like the Broncos' hire of Vance Joseph, but I'm sorry to see Wade go.
Not apprehensive after the last young hot coordinator worked out so well? My coworker likes his ties to CO, but just one year as a DC? I know Miami had injuries, but not like that D set the world on fire. I guess he does have Elway to throw ideas off, and who he hires as his coordinators, but i am surprised that Wade left, especially because they'd worked together with Texans.

He has been widely applauded by coaches and players who were with him at all three of his previous NFL coaching stops. He seems to have a strong presence and solid maturity, from what I've read. I'm willing to give him a shot, although you never know with a first-time head coach. And, I'm proud of the franchise for hiring an African-American. It is widely expected that he will name the current defensive backs coach Joe Woods as DC. The leading contender for OC is recently-fired Charger coach Mike McCoy, who was Denver's OC during the Orton/Tebow years and the first year of Manning with the Broncos.

GoodKarma · Post by **GoodKarma** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:10 am

The Big Lead has a nice summary of Spanos & the Chargers getting taken to task...http://thebiglead.com/2017/01/12/dean-s ... -everyone/

It's stuff like the logo roasting that makes me happy to have Twitter. I appreciate it when other organizations pile on.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:24 am

sancarlos wrote:
Johnnie wrote:

He's 30. Turning 31 this year.
And, the Rams just hired Wade Phillips to be defensive coordinator. He'll turn 70 this year. So, nearly 40 years older than his boss.

I like the Broncos' hire of Vance Joseph, but I'm sorry to see Wade go.

That's a huge upgrade over Gregg Williams.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:39 am

GoodKarma wrote:The Big Lead has a nice summary of Spanos & the Chargers getting taken to task...http://thebiglead.com/2017/01/12/dean-s ... -everyone/

It's stuff like the logo roasting that makes me happy to have Twitter. I appreciate it when other organizations pile on.

That's great stuff!

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:27 am

I'm not on Twitter that often, so it's awesome too see the media sections of these teams having fun and interacting like they did. Those @ replies between the Dodgers and Lightning are perfect.

I think the Kings started this trend, right? Tangentially related:

Keg · Post by **Keg** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:36 am

A_B wrote:Did LA really need another NFL team?

We didn't need one to begin with.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:40 pm

Looks like the Raiders just got a big step closer to making their move to Las Vegas a reality. They've got Mark Davis' stake, they've got the Nevada public money stake, but still needed the third piece. Which was expected to come from Sheldon Adelson, but he's been playing hardball in his negotiations with Davis - likely demanding a sizable ownership stake, which Davis doesn't want to give.

But, as noted in the Las Vegas paper, and in this piece in the SF Comical, the Raiders say that Goldman Sachs has guaranteed the necessary third leg of the financing stool, should they not get it from Adelson. So, that solves the financing issue, and the NFL is expected to approve the deal.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:56 am

Yes. Word is that focus will shift to Kyle Shanahan.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:21 am

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:30 am

That's still too much money for oil rags for your car.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:08 am

That'd be a fun shirt to buy and wear all hipsterly in 2027.

Baloney · Post by **Baloney** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:57 am

Och aye NFL

http://www.bbc.com/sport/american-football/38644302