Mary Tyler Moore

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:05 pm

I guess she's not gonna make it after all.

Post by **brian** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:19 pm

Up there on the Mount Rushmore of American comediennes with Lucille Ball and Carol Burnett. RIP.

Post by **brian** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:48 pm

If she had never ever acted and was "only" a producer, would still be one of the most influential people in the history of television.

The Bob Newhart Show
Hill Street Blues
St. Elsewhere
WKRP in Cincinnati

Pretty amazing career.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:46 pm

Surely one of the greats in television history.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:50 pm

brian wrote:Up there on the Mount Rushmore of American comediennes with Lucille Ball and Carol Burnett. RIP.

You need a 4th. Probably Kathy Griffin.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:54 pm

Was also amazing as the ICE MOM in "Ordinary People".

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:56 pm

mister d wrote:
brian wrote:Up there on the Mount Rushmore of American comediennes with Lucille Ball and Carol Burnett. RIP.
You need a 4th. Probably Kathy Griffin.

How dare you!

I'll nominate Tina Fey.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:26 pm

Everybody loved her in the MTM show, and the Dick Van Dyke show, but she was also great in Ordinary People.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:32 pm

Pruitt wrote:How dare you!

Not to hijack, but I'm not sure I've ever found anyone who peaked before I was born to be funny.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:59 pm

mister d wrote:
Pruitt wrote:How dare you!
Not to hijack, but I'm not sure I've ever found anyone who peaked before I was born to be funny.

Understand totally.

When I was a kid, we watched Carol Burnett and never ever laughed. Meanwhile, my grandmother loved it.

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:05 pm

Pruitt wrote:
mister d wrote:
Pruitt wrote:How dare you!
Not to hijack, but I'm not sure I've ever found anyone who peaked before I was born to be funny.
Understand totally.

When I was a kid, we watched Carol Burnett and never ever laughed. Meanwhile, my grandmother loved it.

You have no soul. Carol Burnett>MTM and it ain't even close.

I never found MTM funny, her show was funny, but not because of her. That was an amazing ensemble cast. She had her shtick where she would have a funny cry or show up a man because she was his equal, damnit.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:06 pm

bfj wrote:
Pruitt wrote:
mister d wrote:
Pruitt wrote:How dare you!
Not to hijack, but I'm not sure I've ever found anyone who peaked before I was born to be funny.
Understand totally.

When I was a kid, we watched Carol Burnett and never ever laughed. Meanwhile, my grandmother loved it.
You have no soul. Carol Burnett>MTM and it ain't even close.

Appreciate her, never found her funny though.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:48 pm

MTM was never a comedienne, per se. She was originally a dancer, then became an actress, notably in two successful TV comedies. So comparing her to sketch comediennes like Carol Burnett is apples and oranges.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:49 pm

mister d wrote:
Pruitt wrote:How dare you!
Not to hijack, but I'm not sure I've ever found anyone who peaked before I was born to be funny.

So who's on first isn't funny? You're a demon.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:19 pm

mister d wrote:Not to hijack, but I'm not sure I've ever found anyone who peaked before I was born to be funny.

I still enjoy the Marx Brothers, especially Groucho.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:23 pm

Not even a little, and yet I've laughed at this four separate times and another 40 just thinking of it.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:26 pm

mister d wrote:Not even a little, and yet I've laughed at this four separate times and another 40 just thinking of it.

Really? That's not all that funny.

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:53 am

sancarlos wrote:MTM was never a comedienne, per se. She was originally a dancer, then became an actress, notably in two successful TV comedies. So comparing her to sketch comediennes like Carol Burnett is apples and oranges.

Then she can't be on Mt. Rushmore!

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:03 am

bfj wrote:
sancarlos wrote:MTM was never a comedienne, per se. She was originally a dancer, then became an actress, notably in two successful TV comedies. So comparing her to sketch comediennes like Carol Burnett is apples and oranges.
Then she can't be on Mt. Rushmore!

I'd argue she belongs on a Mt Rushmore of seminal Hollywood players, and is on a very short list of most influential women in popular culture of all time.

At any rate, she left a lot larger of an impression on young women out of the Equal Rights Amendment era than Carol Burnett did.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:10 am

mister d wrote:Not even a little, and yet I've laughed at this four separate times and another 40 just thinking of it.

I laughed!

A lot of old time comedy stands up for me. Maybe because I'm getting old. God help me, I still laugh at the Three Stooges.

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:51 am

EnochRoot wrote:
bfj wrote:
sancarlos wrote:MTM was never a comedienne, per se. She was originally a dancer, then became an actress, notably in two successful TV comedies. So comparing her to sketch comediennes like Carol Burnett is apples and oranges.
Then she can't be on Mt. Rushmore!
I'd argue she belongs on a Mt Rushmore of seminal Hollywood players, and is on a very short list of most influential women in popular culture of all time.

At any rate, she left a lot larger of an impression on young women out of the Equal Rights Amendment era than Carol Burnett did.

That still doesn't make her funny. Which is what this discussion was about.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:59 am

Harriett Tubman was pretty influential too so lets get her on the mountain.

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:00 am

mister d wrote:Harriett Tubman was pretty influential too so lets get her on the mountain.

Also funnier than MTM.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:06 am

Rita Rudner
Paula Poundstone
Elayne Boozler
Judy Tenuta

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:09 am

bfj wrote:
EnochRoot wrote:
bfj wrote:
sancarlos wrote:MTM was never a comedienne, per se. She was originally a dancer, then became an actress, notably in two successful TV comedies. So comparing her to sketch comediennes like Carol Burnett is apples and oranges.
Then she can't be on Mt. Rushmore!
I'd argue she belongs on a Mt Rushmore of seminal Hollywood players, and is on a very short list of most influential women in popular culture of all time.

At any rate, she left a lot larger of an impression on young women out of the Equal Rights Amendment era than Carol Burnett did.
That still doesn't make her funny. Which is what this discussion was about.

Correct, because you hi-jacked her RIP thread with a joke, and then proceeded to claim she was unfunny and apparently unworthy of accolades.

I was attempting to correct the discussion so that it gets pointed in a direction more apropos of her passing.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:12 am

mister d wrote:Harriett Tubman was pretty influential too so lets get her on the mountain.

Harriet Tubman? As if her value additions to society need to be conflated with what Mary Tyler Moore accomplished? What's the point?

I mean, I get it. You don't find her funny. She was always willing to let the other cast members get the lines, anyway. But her body of work, notably in production after the MTM show, bears consideration.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:16 am

I figured I'd throw some shade at your joke:

bfj wrote:I guess she's not gonna make it after all.

Actually, I'd say she did make it after all.

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:16 am

Look everyone. A new moral compass for the Swamp. I never said she wasn't talented or influential, just not funny. IN MY OPINION. Her work as an actress and as a producer is impressive. Ordinary People was a great movie and she was fantastic in it. The shows she produced were amazing.

I make jokes, that's what funny people do. I don't chastise people, that what douchebags do.

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:20 am

Who the fuck is Mary Tyler Moore?

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:23 am

rass wrote:Who the fuck is Mary Tyler Moore?

She could turn the world on with a smile.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:25 am

rass wrote:Who the fuck is Mary Tyler Moore?

Some lady in a weezer song.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:47 am

bfj wrote:Look everyone. A new moral compass for the Swamp. I never said she wasn't talented or influential, just not funny. IN MY OPINION. Her work as an actress and as a producer is impressive. Ordinary People was a great movie and she was fantastic in it. The shows she produced were amazing.

I make jokes, that's what funny people do. I don't chastise people, that what douchebags do.

Funny people recognize that timing is everything.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:50 am

EnochRoot wrote:I mean, I get it. You don't find her funny.

On the contrary, I legitimately don't think I've ever seen a single show (or movie?) she's been on (in).

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:04 am

EnochRoot wrote:
bfj wrote:Look everyone. A new moral compass for the Swamp. I never said she wasn't talented or influential, just not funny. IN MY OPINION. Her work as an actress and as a producer is impressive. Ordinary People was a great movie and she was fantastic in it. The shows she produced were amazing.

I make jokes, that's what funny people do. I don't chastise people, that what douchebags do.
Funny people recognize that timing is everything.

It was the first post. That's timing.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:14 am

bfj wrote:
EnochRoot wrote:
bfj wrote:Look everyone. A new moral compass for the Swamp. I never said she wasn't talented or influential, just not funny. IN MY OPINION. Her work as an actress and as a producer is impressive. Ordinary People was a great movie and she was fantastic in it. The shows she produced were amazing.

I make jokes, that's what funny people do. I don't chastise people, that what douchebags do.
Funny people recognize that timing is everything.
It was the first post. That's timing.

Then feel free to borrow my moral compass as needed. I'd put that in orange, but yeah...No.

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:42 am

EnochRoot wrote:
bfj wrote:
EnochRoot wrote:
bfj wrote:Look everyone. A new moral compass for the Swamp. I never said she wasn't talented or influential, just not funny. IN MY OPINION. Her work as an actress and as a producer is impressive. Ordinary People was a great movie and she was fantastic in it. The shows she produced were amazing.

I make jokes, that's what funny people do. I don't chastise people, that what douchebags do.
Funny people recognize that timing is everything.
It was the first post. That's timing.
Then feel free to borrow my moral compass as needed. I'd put that in orange, but yeah...No.

Zing!!!

Did you lose your mic drop emoji?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:47 am

GUYS GUYS STOP YOU KNOW THIS ISN'T WHAT MARY TYLER MOORE WOULD HAVE WANTED!!!

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:18 pm

mister d wrote:GUYS GUYS STOP YOU KNOW THIS ISN'T WHAT MARY TYLER MOORE WOULD HAVE WANTED!!!

She could take a nothing day and suddenly make it all seem worthwhile.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:21 pm

That's probably from like a theme song or something, huh?