MLB 2017- May

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Tue May 02, 2017 10:22 am

So no discussion of the Red Sox game that apparently took place in Mississippi last night?

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Tue May 02, 2017 10:51 am

Giff wrote:So no discussion of the Red Sox game that apparently took place in Mississippi last night?

Even in Mississippi they don't do that shit out loud anymore. You only find that in soccer games in Eastern Europe.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Tue May 02, 2017 10:55 am

The Cubs' first-inning ERA so far is 10.80.

Their ERA for the other innings is 3.17.

Post by **brian** » Tue May 02, 2017 10:58 am

Should do what UEFA does and next time Baltimore plays a series at Fenway, make them play it in front of an empty stadium.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue May 02, 2017 11:11 am

What's barstool's take on all this?

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue May 02, 2017 11:31 am

First of all, those fans could have come from Maine, or Vermont, or Rhode Island, or Western Mass, or even some parts of Connecticut. Not fair for Boston to assume the blame of everyone from all over the biggest sports fan "Nation" in the country.

Rams Fanny · Post by **Rams Fanny** » Tue May 02, 2017 12:37 pm

Ryan wrote:First of all, those fans could have come from Maine, or Vermont, or Rhode Island, or Western Mass, or even some parts of Connecticut. Not fair for Boston to assume the blame of everyone from all over the biggest sports fan "Nation" in the country.

You are (intentionally?) missing the larger point. It may not have been a fan from Boston but it was a fan of Boston. Not only was the thinking behind the behavior beyond troubling but that the fan felt comfortable enough in his surroundings to put it on public display. While Adam Jones' number of 60 fans ejected has been refuted by the Red Sox to be only around 30, that is 30 too many. There are surely racist fans of every major team and of course we would all like to eradicate racism but that is a long process. It is the culture where 30 people are comfortable enough to be publicly racist that needs to be addressed immediately. That is, at the moment, a uniquely 'fan of Boston' problem.

Post by **brian** » Tue May 02, 2017 2:48 pm

He was just joking, but I'm not sure this is a laughing matter.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue May 02, 2017 3:07 pm

fucking please

Post by **brian** » Tue May 02, 2017 3:27 pm

Yeah, excuse me for thinking that 30 fucking people getting ejected from a game for racial taunts is funny. That's seriously some fucked up retrograde Eastern European soccer shit. Not just one guy or a couple of guys, like several rows worth of guys. Unless it was "Alt-Right Night" or something like that hard to find an excuse for it or try to explain it away or make fun of it.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue May 02, 2017 3:37 pm

Making a joke tangentially related to something terrible = thinking that terrible thing is funny. Cool beans. I'm sure that never happens around here.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue May 02, 2017 3:39 pm

Hey, fuck racists by the way. Sorry I didn't contribute that first. Boston's got some, for sure.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue May 02, 2017 3:40 pm

Not so Eastern Europe.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Tue May 02, 2017 4:00 pm

brian wrote:Yeah, excuse me for thinking that 30 fucking people getting ejected from a game for racial taunts is funny. That's seriously some fucked up retrograde Eastern European soccer shit. Not just one guy or a couple of guys, like several rows worth of guys. Unless it was "Alt-Right Night" or something like that hard to find an excuse for it or try to explain it away or make fun of it.

I don't think there's any suggestion that all 30 people were ejected for racial taunts. In fact, I believe the team said that most of the ejections were for alcohol or marijuana related issues. Not that this excuses the behavior of the fans who were taunting Jones -- and it's clear from CC Sabathia's comments today that Boston fans are particularly bad. But there's a big difference between 1 or 2 guys making racial comments and dozens of guys doing that.

Post by **brian** » Tue May 02, 2017 4:02 pm

I don't think anyone's suggesting the issue is unique to Boston, but it seems to be especially prevalent or pervasive there. You've even got Mookie Betts and David Price saying they've had racial comments directed at them and they play for the Red Sox.

So while MLB will probably be happy to just sweep this under the rug and the 99 percent of non-racist Red Sox fans will probably give Jones a standing ovation tonight (as they should) it's probably something that deserves a little bit of attention from the Red Sox and/or MLB.

Post by **brian** » Tue May 02, 2017 4:06 pm

Maybe the issue is as simple as the fans there (for whatever reason) feel more emboldened to actually verbalize these kinds of things and this will serve as the kind of attention and spotlight that will help give other fans the stones to "police" that kind of stuff, call security, etc.

This is what happens in European soccer from time to time. Fans might feel intimidated by those shouting the taunts because in some cases you're dealing with actual neo-Nazis. I'm not at all suggesting that's the case here, but I can see how some fans would feel reticent about involving security. Maybe that will no longer be the case.

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Tue May 02, 2017 5:52 pm

brian wrote:Should do what UEFA does and next time Baltimore plays a series at Fenway, make them play it in front of an empty stadium.

O's have been there and done that. #riotbaseball

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Tue May 02, 2017 5:53 pm

Ryan wrote:fucking please

This is how the Boston Marathon kerfufle started.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue May 02, 2017 7:23 pm

Ryan wrote:fucking please

Go jerk off to some jeopardy maps.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue May 02, 2017 7:54 pm

Whoa guys let's settle down here, I think I know what's going on, we're all a little frustrated and disappointed this didn't happen at a Cardinals game first.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue May 02, 2017 8:00 pm

Ryan's probably earned enough humor capital that we all knew that was a joke. He's the least masshole of all them.

Post by **Sabo** » Tue May 02, 2017 8:14 pm

A_B wrote:Ryan's probably earned enough humor capital that we all knew that was a joke. He's the least masshole of all them.

The best part of the joke was he omitted New Hampshire from the list of states. To me, that makes his comment an obvious joke.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue May 02, 2017 9:01 pm

Aaron Judge is pure sex.

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Tue May 02, 2017 9:05 pm

mister d wrote:
Ryan wrote:fucking please
Go jerk off to some jeopardy maps.

+1

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue May 02, 2017 9:06 pm

mister d wrote:Aaron Judge is pure sex.

Or maybe Dave king man.

You'll deny judges existence once Harper hits free agency.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue May 02, 2017 9:15 pm

Yeah, man. Definitely don't want to do something like not optimize defensive alignment by having one of them in left and Frazier in center. Would suck.

(We're totally going after Machado harder. Issuing the same guarantee as Sabathia > Santana here.)

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue May 02, 2017 9:20 pm

That will definitely be a more likely position of need.

But will disagree on him being a superior player in he long run.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue May 02, 2017 9:31 pm

I'm not rational about Machado. This is the most I've been on a non-Yankee since Sizemore.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue May 02, 2017 9:39 pm

mister d wrote:I'm not rational about Machado. This is the most I've been on a non-Yankee since Sizemore.

And that turned out so well!

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Wed May 03, 2017 8:06 am

It's actually fun beating the Rangers. Who knew?!?

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Wed May 03, 2017 8:19 am

Giff wrote:It's actually fun beating the Rangers. Who knew?!?

Santa Anna?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed May 03, 2017 8:20 am

Can we get back to calling TurdRyan a racism enabler?

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Wed May 03, 2017 8:27 am

Looked like a pretty decent joke to me.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Wed May 03, 2017 8:29 am

Also, the Reds' starting staff is truly a sight to behold at the moment. Here are the collective numbers for persons who have take the mound to start a Reds game in 2017;

26 games started with 122 2/3 innings pitched - still averaging just 4.7 innings per start.

6.09 ERA. 1.51 whip. Just 109 Ks on top of 62 walks.

And that includes Amir Garrett's four good starts out of five. I mean, that's simply breathtaking work. I am in awe.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Wed May 03, 2017 8:32 am

tennbengal wrote:
Giff wrote:It's actually fun beating the Rangers. Who knew?!?
Santa Anna?

Santa Anna was captured by Mr. Houston.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Wed May 03, 2017 8:32 am

Giff wrote:
tennbengal wrote:
Giff wrote:It's actually fun beating the Rangers. Who knew?!?
Santa Anna?
Santa Anna was captured by Mr. Houston.

And yet, before that, knew victory, no?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed May 03, 2017 9:16 am

tennbengal wrote:Looked like a pretty decent joke to me.

Immaterial.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Wed May 03, 2017 9:17 am

tennbengal wrote:Also, the Reds' starting staff is truly a sight to behold at the moment. Here are the collective numbers for persons who have take the mound to start a Reds game in 2017;

26 games started with 122 2/3 innings pitched - still averaging just 4.7 innings per start.

6.09 ERA. 1.51 whip. Just 109 Ks on top of 62 walks.

And that includes Amir Garrett's four good starts out of five. I mean, that's simply breathtaking work. I am in awe.

Maybe trade bullpens with Detroit.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Wed May 03, 2017 9:57 am

mister d wrote:
tennbengal wrote:Looked like a pretty decent joke to me.
Immaterial.

Yeah, you guys aren't helping.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed May 03, 2017 10:04 am

Your avatar is racist.