The Swamp

Posted: **Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:45 am**

Hey now. He almost got a single double.

Posted: **Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:15 am**

Beverly also pointed out that, thanks to his dad, Ball could expect similar efforts from opposing defenders all year...

Posted: **Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:49 am**

Lavar had an opinion
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2108 ... lonzo-ball

Lonzo is either going to crack (Kwame Brown) or get very hard very quickly from players making a point with him. 9 boards is pretty good for PG.

Posted: **Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:42 pm**

Seeing some twitter chatter that Chris Paul may be out a month or so with the knee...that happened fast this time around if so.

Posted: **Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:37 pm**

tennbengal wrote:Beverly also pointed out that, thanks to his dad, Ball could expect similar efforts from opposing defenders all year...

The Suns are obviously still tanking, but apparently they missed the memo. 29 points, 11 rebounds, and 9 assists for Lonzo tonight.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:42 am**

Joe K wrote:
tennbengal wrote:Beverly also pointed out that, thanks to his dad, Ball could expect similar efforts from opposing defenders all year...

The Suns are obviously still tanking, but apparently they missed the memo. 29 points, 11 rebounds, and 9 assists for Lonzo tonight.

The suns couldn’t defend you and me right now. I have Ball on my fantasy team and would like him to face Phoenix every game, ideally. I am expecting somewhere between the Beverly game and the Phoenix game from him stat-wise going forward. But I do think he is more marked than he should be thanks to his dad.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:41 am**

tennbengal wrote:
Joe K wrote:
tennbengal wrote:Beverly also pointed out that, thanks to his dad, Ball could expect similar efforts from opposing defenders all year...

The Suns are obviously still tanking, but apparently they missed the memo. 29 points, 11 rebounds, and 9 assists for Lonzo tonight.

The suns couldn’t defend you and me right now. I have Ball on my fantasy team and would like him to face Phoenix every game, ideally. I am expecting somewhere between the Beverly game and the Phoenix game from him stat-wise going forward. But I do think he is more marked than he should be thanks to his dad.

Suns games are always the best for stat padding. Earl Watson giving fouls while down big to Boston last year so that Booker could score 70 was hilarious.

I watched the Cavs-Bucks game last night. Not sure they'll have success playing Rose and Wade together -- and of the two, Rose looks way better -- but otherwise I don't see any real drop off without Kyrie or even Isaiah. Not that this needs saying, but LeBron truly is incredible. His ability to play this his teammates' strengths is remarkable. It just might get awkward if/when Thomas returns and Lue has to tell LeBron that Wade shouldn't be part of the rotation.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:20 pm**

Can we talk yet about how weird the Fultz shooting form situation is?

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:24 pm**

tennbengal wrote:Can we talk yet about how weird the Fultz shooting form situation is?

Oh man. iTS bad. Its real bad. Really really strange.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:27 pm**

A_B wrote:
tennbengal wrote:Can we talk yet about how weird the Fultz shooting form situation is?

Oh man. iTS bad. Its real bad. Really really strange.

As a long time Process Truster, I'm trying to ignore it. But yeah, it's incredibly bizarre. Fultz wasn't a good FT shooter in college (65%), so I get why he might tinker with his form, but he looks an out-of-shape pickup player trying to shoot after doing an intense arm workout.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:55 pm**

The Warriors are totally going to mimic the 2000-01 Lakers and lose 26 regular season games before flipping the switch and losing only 1 playoff game.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:48 pm**

The grizzlies are going 82-0.

The weird thing on Fultz is, I didn’t see him play but maybe five minutes last year because UWashington was really bad and games on late. So him being consensus number one overall pick, I guess I expected to be wowed since that is pretty unusual a spot for a point guard to be picked. And, even free throw shooting awfulness aside, I guess I confess to being confused as to why he was so clearly thought ahead of Fox or Ball or Smith. And, to return to the free thrown shooting thing, how does a guy drafted number one overall plays guard go to a style that looks like he is heaving a medicine ball at the rim?

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:11 pm**

A_B wrote:
tennbengal wrote:Can we talk yet about how weird the Fultz shooting form situation is?

Oh man. iTS bad. Its real bad. Really really strange.

Good lord!

"Trust the process?" Season started 4 days ago, and the 6ers are already 0-3.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:55 am**

tennbengal wrote:The weird thing on Fultz is, I didn’t see him play but maybe five minutes last year because UWashington was really bad and games on late. So him being consensus number one overall pick, I guess I expected to be wowed since that is pretty unusual a spot for a point guard to be picked. And, even free throw shooting awfulness aside, I guess I confess to being confused as to why he was so clearly thought ahead of Fox or Ball or Smith.

That was my thinking on him at the time as well. I pretty much only saw highlights and stats. While his numbers were great, his team was bad, which is a bad sign for a supposedly great player, especially a PG. But, I figured I as missing something because I never really watched his games.

BTW, I did watch Smith in college - in person twice, in fact - and I had the exact same concerns. Great player. Bad team. And his team had other good pieces on it. A great player should have been able to make that work. I watched UNC beat that team by 50.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:11 am**

CUrry threw his mouth guard again? KD flipped a fan off? What the hell is going on with them right now?

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:15 pm**

A_B wrote:CUrry threw his mouth guard again? KD flipped a fan off? What the hell is going on with them right now?

The 2015-16 Warriors were hands down the most arrogant sports team I've ever seen (and I say that as someone who generally likes athlete exuberance). Between Draymond's frequent technical and flagrant fouls, and the routine showboating mid game (even mid play), they clearly didn't have the most respect for their opponents. They finally got some karma for it in that year's Finals and toned it down a lot last year, but I'm not surprised that they'd go back to those habits after winning a title.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:59 pm**

A_B wrote:CUrry threw his mouth guard again? KD flipped a fan off? What the hell is going on with them right now?

Not for nothing , but, weirdly, the grizzlies have at lesser a room in their heads. Beat them twice last year and are the only team with a winning record against golden state since 2011 I believe.

People wrote memphis as odd team out of playoffs again in West like they seem to do every year, but Memphis looks like they will be plenty competitive again. Condo and Gasol is a more than solid base and the bench has been really good through two games. Also, for once, memphis looking like they got a draft steal late second with Dillon Brooks.

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:11 am**

The Ringer on Fultz:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/10/2 ... ason-panic

So it could be a physical issue. It could also be that Fultz is shook. Before the season began, a longtime league exec ran the following hypothetical past me. See if it sounds familiar: Jerryd Bayless starts. Fultz comes off the bench. Bayless is effective from outside to begin the year. Fultz struggles with his form. How would the Sixers and Brown — desperate to win games this year after so many years of not doing so — react? Would they stay with the hot hand in Bayless, even at the expense of developing Fultz? And would that approach chip away at Fultz’s potentially cracked confidence?

That thought experiment has become a reality for the Sixers. Bayless has hit nine of 16 3s so far. He makes sense playing next to Ben Simmons, who has looked good as the point forward — according to Elias Sports, he’s the only rookie other than Oscar Robertson to have 10-plus points, 10-plus rebounds, and five-plus assists in his first three career games. Bayless helps the Sixers space an already clogged court. It should be noted, however, that Simmons has his own issues as a shooter. He’s non-national-TV Rondo right now, only taller and younger and with potential still to burn. The Sixers have somehow monopolized the broken-jumper/first-overall-pick market, which is not a market anyone should shop at, let alone own. It all asks some hard questions of Brown, far sooner than he probably wants to answer them.

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:49 am**

There are multiple reports of Fultz having a shoulder injury (Philly News, Deadspin), even him admitting to it (linked in the Deadspin article from yesterday):

https://twitter.com/JCameratoNBCS/statu ... 4613154818

Trust the process, except when it comes to making it pay off this season because of all the hype?

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:59 am**

Seems like they're terrified to have another lottery pick sit right out of the gate. I'm sure that's good for his development.

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:04 am**

mister d wrote:Seems like they're terrified to have another lottery pick sit right out of the gate. I'm sure that's good for his development.

This is likely true. It really makes no sense to have him try and play through an injury when they can just use a backcourt rotation of Simmons, Redick and Bayless. So this probably is just about the optics of wanting to look like they're "going for it," even though it's crazy to play an injured rookie PG in a league where even highly drafted rookie PGs typically struggle out of the gate.

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:28 pm**

On a brighter note for The Process, Ben Simmons has been outstanding so far this season. He turned in a 21 point, 12 rebound, 10 assist triple-double tonight and the Sixers got their first win. Through 4 games, he's averaging 17 ppg, 10.8 rpg, and 7 apg, on 49% shooting from the field.

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:18 pm**

82-0 still on table for Memphis. Down 88-78 at Houston and finished on a 20-2 run. Beaten New Orleans, golden state and Houston so far.

Posted: **Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:26 pm**

https://twitter.com/EBled2/status/922201984211369984

Posted: **Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:19 pm**

Fultz has a bad shoulder, got a steroid shot, and is not going to play for 2 weeks. I trying to remember the last time the Sixers had their first pick of the draft not be hurt his first season.

Posted: **Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:28 pm**

Brad Daugherty.

Posted: **Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:44 pm**

TheBron's first game wrapping up on NBATV right now. JR Bremer's their second leading scorer and DeSagana Diop is getting crunch time minutes.

Posted: **Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:45 am**

L-Jam3 wrote:Brad Daugherty.

This sent me down a rabbit hole:
- The No. 1 pick in 1986 would have originally belonged to the Clippers, but they had traded it to the Sixers in 1979(!) for bench player Joe "Jellybean" Bryant (aka Kobe's dad).
- This means Daugherty was in junior high school when the pick that eventually became him was first traded.
- The day before the draft, the Sixers traded the pick to Cleveland for Roy Hinson, who was never an all-star and was traded again a year and a half later.
- Brad Daugherty is currently a NASCAR analyst.

Posted: **Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:48 am**

I imagine a lot of players were HS juniors (or lower?) when their draft pick was first traded.

Posted: **Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:22 pm**

Awesome Halloween costume:

Posted: **Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:59 pm**

That’s good.

Posted: **Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:54 am**

So Joe Tsai of Alibaba buys 49% of the Nyets (but no stake in the Barclays Center). Has option to buy the rest of the team in 2021 (but owner can keep up to 20%). Tsai just bought a National Lacrosse League franchise in San Diego. Some wonder if he is looking to move the NBA team west.

Posted: **Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:58 am**

wlu_lax6 wrote:So Joe Tsai of Alibaba buys 49% of the Nyets (but no stake in the Barclays Center). Has option to buy the rest of the team in 2021 (but owner can keep up to 20%). Tsai just bought a National Lacrosse League franchise in San Diego. Some wonder if he is looking to move the NBA team west.

maybe.
but in general Chinese guys are just hiding money in the west anywhere they can. Buying sports franchises, resorts, hotels etc.. They would buy universities if they could.

Posted: **Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:42 am**

degenerasian wrote:
wlu_lax6 wrote:So Joe Tsai of Alibaba buys 49% of the Nyets (but no stake in the Barclays Center). Has option to buy the rest of the team in 2021 (but owner can keep up to 20%). Tsai just bought a National Lacrosse League franchise in San Diego. Some wonder if he is looking to move the NBA team west.

maybe.
but in general Chinese guys are just hiding money in the west anywhere they can. Buying sports franchises, resorts, hotels etc.. They would buy universities if they could.

yeah this past Friday's planet money (NPR podcast) was all about that. Joe is Taiwanese-Canadian, went to Lawrenceville (fancy private school in NJ) and then Yale. Wife went to Stanford and as a Harvard MBA. Joe played lacrosse for Yale (there are some old clips of him playing on youtube). He basically funded Taiwan's national lacrosse program.

Good podcast on his business view of the world (presented at an Lacrosse industry summit)
http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/l ... tsai/50012

Posted: **Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:36 pm**

Remember how mad Knicks fans were when they drafted Porzingis? He's gone for 30+ in 5 of their 6 games this season, and has carried a terrible roster to a 3-3 record. And he just turned 22 in August.

Posted: **Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:00 pm**

The Pacers should have gotten more for George, but I am very pleased with the play of Olidipo and Sabonis so far. Hope they can keep it up and play even better when Turner comes back from concussion protocol.

Posted: **Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:08 pm**

duff wrote:The Pacers should have gotten more for George, but I am very pleased with the play of Olidipo and Sabonis so far. Hope they can keep it up and play even better when Turner comes back from concussion protocol.

On a related note, something looks seriously wrong with the Cavs. Their defense has been shamefully bad, and you gotta wonder how much job security Ty Lue has at this point. I know it sounds crazy to say that after back-to-back finals appearances, but given LeBron's pending free agency, the stakes are high for this season.

Posted: **Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:26 pm**

Cavs suck donkey noses.

Posted: **Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:43 am**

As a fantasy owner of Sabonis, he rules.

Posted: **Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:16 am**

Meanwhile the Celtics look great. The kids are getting tons of minutes and performing. Especially jaylen Brown. Looks legit. I could kind of understand the offense but the team is rebounding and playing defense. If they get Hayward back a couple weeks before playoffs they might challenge this year.

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