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Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:25 pm
by sancarlos
DSafetyGuy wrote:
brian wrote:
DSafetyGuy wrote:
brian wrote:In a related story, there's gotta be a better/shorter way to refer to "AT&T Sportsnet Rocky Mountain". That doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

Call it ASPRM (pronounced Ass-Sperm).

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:55 pm
by Steve of phpBB
brian wrote:
DSafetyGuy wrote:
brian wrote:In a related story, there's gotta be a better/shorter way to refer to "AT&T Sportsnet Rocky Mountain". That doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.


Just gotta get rid of 98% of the coverage area and then it can be named after a city.


Well, VGK is the "Team of the Rockies" so that ain't gonna work.


Wait. What?

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:07 pm
by sancarlos
Yeah, pretty ballsy for Vegas to claim they’re “the team of the Rockies” when there’s a different team based in Denver,

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:38 pm
by brian
sancarlos wrote:Yeah, pretty ballsy for Vegas to claim they’re “the team of the Rockies” when there’s a different team based in Denver,


Though Vegas’ games are available in a vastly larger geographic than Colorado’s. Like 5x larger.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:04 pm
by brian
MAF making a lot of fans among newcomers to hockey in Las Vegas.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:32 pm
by rass
brian wrote:MAF making a lot of fans among newcomers to hockey in Las Vegas.


He's the best.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:19 pm
by rass
wlu_lax6 wrote:
degenerasian wrote:NHL mucks around with more rule changes

1. A failed offside challenge will result in a two-minute penalty against the club asking for the review.

2. Incorrect goaltender interference reviews stay the same — the loss of your timeout.

3. Teams are no longer able to call timeout after icing the puck.


I like 3, I just hope that they don't let teams drag getting back to the dot for the faceoff. The Penguins used this trick and confused substitutions a few times against the Caps in the playoffs last year with no foul, etc. It let a tired team rest a bit more.


On actual thought into this, rule change 3 sucks. They get one time out, let them do what they want.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:20 pm
by degenerasian
Neal again! Hope he gets the empty-netter

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:22 pm
by sancarlos
Fun to see Vegas win their first game. MAF stole it. (And James Neal was great, too.)

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:32 pm
by sancarlos
brian wrote:
sancarlos wrote:Yeah, pretty ballsy for Vegas to claim they’re “the team of the Rockies” when there’s a different team based in Denver,

Though Vegas’ games are available in a vastly larger geographic than Colorado’s. Like 5x larger.

Five times larger geographic coverage? Avalanche games are carried on Altitude Sports and Entertainment network.
Altitude Sports FAQ wrote:Where is Altitude Sports & Entertainment available?

Colorado Avalanche games are available in the following areas: Colorado, Wyoming, Kansas (except for Kansas City), Nebraska, Montana, Idaho, Utah, Northern New Mexico and Northeastern Nevada.

That pretty much covers the Rocky Mountain region.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:42 pm
by brian
I was apparently misinformed. That said, Vegas’ winning percentage is considerably higher.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:50 pm
by sancarlos
brian wrote:I was apparently misinformed. That said, Vegas’ winning percentage is considerably higher.

That was quite a game. Congrats.

(And, Mr. D might point out that the Avalanche's winning percentage for this season is currently at the same lofty rate as the Golden Knights.)

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:08 am
by brian
I meant in franchise history.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:01 am
by Steve of phpBB
brian wrote:
sancarlos wrote:Yeah, pretty ballsy for Vegas to claim they’re “the team of the Rockies” when there’s a different team based in Denver,


Though Vegas’ games are available in a vastly larger geographic than Colorado’s. Like 5x larger.


I just looked and couldn't find the Knights on my cable system. That's too bad. (And I'm looking at the Rocky Mtn right now.)

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:56 am
by brian
Steve of phpBB wrote:
brian wrote:
sancarlos wrote:Yeah, pretty ballsy for Vegas to claim they’re “the team of the Rockies” when there’s a different team based in Denver,


Though Vegas’ games are available in a vastly larger geographic than Colorado’s. Like 5x larger.


I just looked and couldn't find the Knights on my cable system. That's too bad. (And I'm looking at the Rocky Mtn right now.)


That does suck because the station is supposed to be on throughout Utah and Montana (those are the two other states the team is targeting for marketing in a big way). So if it's not on in Salt Lake City, then that is kind of counter-productive. Could be they're working on getting it added to whatever your cable company is there as well, though it would have been less critical to get it on in SLC or in other markets than Las Vegas.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:15 am
by Steve of phpBB
brian wrote:
Steve of phpBB wrote:
brian wrote:
sancarlos wrote:Yeah, pretty ballsy for Vegas to claim they’re “the team of the Rockies” when there’s a different team based in Denver,


Though Vegas’ games are available in a vastly larger geographic than Colorado’s. Like 5x larger.


I just looked and couldn't find the Knights on my cable system. That's too bad. (And I'm looking at the Rocky Mtn right now.)


That does suck because the station is supposed to be on throughout Utah and Montana (those are the two other states the team is targeting for marketing in a big way). So if it's not on in Salt Lake City, then that is kind of counter-productive. Could be they're working on getting it added to whatever your cable company is there as well, though it would have been less critical to get it on in SLC or in other markets than Las Vegas.


I was finally able to find the station. But the VGK games aren't in the listings for either tonight or Tuesday.

SLC is a college football town anyway. Very little attention is paid to hockey.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:29 am
by brian
Tuesday’s game won’t be on because it’s on NBCSN but I saw what you saw for tonight. Not sure if it’s still needing an update or what.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:57 am
by Rams Fanny
It appears they've created a "west" sub channel though at the moment both are called ATTRM. Non-live programming is the same but the live programming (i.e. Mountain West games) varies. This alleviates the problem of the Rockies and VGK not being shown where they aren't "supposed" to be.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:58 pm
by degenerasian
Leafs are like hounds on raw meat

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:12 pm
by Ryan
Ov3chk3n

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:06 pm
by brian
Couple of 21s for Vegas.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:49 am
by degenerasian
I saw them up close tonight. Fast team but very fragile. They were up 3-1 then hit 2 posts. 10 minutes later they are down 5-3. Then a 6th goal 0:16 into the 3rd and they gave up.


MaxWebster wrote:yeah i'll agree with you and even this summer it was downright puzzling that management and Paul Maurice especially was rehired. Again, trying to not take the easy route here but if you've got that much talent that's NHL-established or ready and you're playing like a bunch of drunken chickens in your own zone for years... where does the problem lie other than an obvious conclusion?

degenerasian wrote:moving this here

MaxWebster wrote:timing horrific as they're down 0-3 already (or maybe perfect timing...) but the Jets *should* be a top 3 in that division based on talent alone. goaltending was the scapegoat last year, not without reason, but it's almost never that simple.

mister d wrote:
degenerasian wrote:No goalie. Drop too many points night after night. The Central is a grind.


Goalie should be a strength if anything. Neither is elite, but they can hot-hand themselves into a real good place.


The Jets lose too many stupid games like this to be a contender. Defense and goaltending is not good enough. I watched the parts of it yesterday and Byfuglien was skating randomly everywhere. That's no defending.

For the Flames, I'm not too disappointed in yesterday, they were quite organized but couldn't get anything going offensively. Not many teams will hold Edmonton to 2(3) goals this year.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:42 am
by brian
Even if Vegas loses on Tuesday, it will still have the record for the best winning percentage in (Big 4) pro sports history. So here's a trivia question for you -- which team is #2 all-time*?

*(And will of course be back to #1 in due course here.)

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:33 am
by Joe K
brian wrote:Even if Vegas loses on Tuesday, it will still have the record for the best winning percentage in (Big 4) pro sports history. So here's a trivia question for you -- which team is #2 all-time*?

*(And will of course be back to #1 in due course here.)

San Antonio Spurs?

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:00 am
by brian
Joe K wrote:
brian wrote:Even if Vegas loses on Tuesday, it will still have the record for the best winning percentage in (Big 4) pro sports history. So here's a trivia question for you -- which team is #2 all-time*?

*(And will of course be back to #1 in due course here.)

San Antonio Spurs?


Yep. That's correct.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:44 am
by Steve of phpBB
Is a +13 goal difference after two games good? It seems good.

Sorry, I gotta live it up before it all comes crashing down.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:54 am
by mister d
There was a weird belief among most of the Rangers writers I read that we improved this offseason and it just never looked that way to me. Shatterkirk would have been a great add as a straight add but it wasn't. And you can't just ignore his own zone flaws, or DeAngelo's own zone flaws, or the weight Stepan carried at C or the weight that he didn't that Lindberg did. Overall, team D seems to have clearly taken a step back, even with finally shedding Girardi. And this isn't goddamn hindsight ...

https://twitter.com/Daaavvveeeee/status ... 2580222976

Rangers xGA of 12.5 is leading the league in total by almost 2, although last night helped and a couple other teams are worse by minute.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:38 am
by rass
I'd be worried that Lundqvist's xAGE is approx. 6 higher than the league average.

Though he is younger than Craig Anderson, and you know how well he can still play.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:24 pm
by degenerasian
Tuukka Rask plays goal like I do in NHL 18

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U_RydrPZAw[/youtube]

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:44 pm
by mister d
rass wrote:I'd be worried that Lundqvist's xAGE is approx. 6 higher than the league average.

Though he is younger than Craig Anderson, and you know how well he can still play.


[img]NHL%20standings%20sorted%20by%20goals%20allowed[/img]

Maybe we should have let him go in expansion ; )

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:53 pm
by degenerasian
THE CURSE IS OVER!!!!!!!!

and it took this guy to do it

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Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:59 am
by degenerasian
no advertising on the boards in the VGK home opener tonight. Just one message.

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and t-shirts

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Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:15 am
by brian
Yeah, GMGM said at the presser yesterday with the national media that tonight isn't the "real" home opener. They're going to hold back some of the stuff they were going to do for the game on Friday against the Red Wings instead because of the need to honor the first responders, etc. from last week.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:37 am
by mister d
I'm so fucking tired of AV. And, by extension, Gorton.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:45 am
by degenerasian
mister d wrote:I'm so fucking tired of AV. And, by extension, Gorton.


At least you beat Montreal. That team is in shambles. Price is just wasting away.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:32 am
by govmentchedda
degenerasian wrote:
mister d wrote:I'm so fucking tired of AV. And, by extension, Gorton.


At least you beat Montreal. That team is in shambles. Price is just wasting away.


Early days yet.

Went to my first game of the season last night. Was on edge walking in as I noticed a fan with a sign asking for the team to suspend JT Brown. I was very interested to see if he protested again, and what the response from the crowd would be. I was not optimistic about what the response would be. There's a lot of white in the crowd at a Bolts game, and the sports crowd in town isn't known for being the brightest, (lots of sports radio listening mouth breathers). He was a scratch last night, so the anthem went off without incident.

I thought the teams were relatively evenly matched throughout the first period and a half or so, but the Caps got a few early goals, and it felt like there was no way the Bolts were going to respond. It ended up being quite the comeback (from 2-0, and 3-1), with Kucherov's shot in OT caroming off Point for the winner.

I was ready to lower my expectations for the season based on the beginning 30 minutes, but the team responded well. Girardi really does suck, but the Callahan, Kunitz, Paquette line really led the way on the forecheck and helped turn the tide. Stamkos is still a little rusty. Hedman's passes weren't as crisp as usual. Kucherov is amazing. Sergachev is going to be a good one, I think. Early days yet.

Image I believe the "Ping" was part of a power play early in the third where the Bolts just dominated.

This Kucherov play was fantastic.
https://www.nhl.com/video/kucherovs-sli ... c-53333203

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:39 am
by mister d
degenerasian wrote:At least you beat Montreal. That team is in shambles. Price is just wasting away.


They still didn't play all that well, it was Henrik winning and AV deciding that justifies his dipshit lineup decisions. He's not a coach who can handle a roster with a lot of "unproven non-star kids versus proven mediocre veterans" decisions and that's where we are now.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:10 pm
by Nonlinear FC
Nonlinear FC wrote:No way the Caps finish second in the East. They are extremely shaky on D and their bottom 6 have a what the fuck is going on vibe that is either going to sort out and make them a decent squad or put them in fighting to make the playoffs scenario.



And last night's game in Tampa proved this point about the shaky D, particularly the third pair. They got torched a couple of times in pretty glaring fashion. Yes, it was a nice backhand by Kucherov... Should've been handled/closed down a lot better than that by Chorney.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:19 pm
by degenerasian
Nonlinear FC wrote:
Nonlinear FC wrote:No way the Caps finish second in the East. They are extremely shaky on D and their bottom 6 have a what the fuck is going on vibe that is either going to sort out and make them a decent squad or put them in fighting to make the playoffs scenario.



And last night's game in Tampa proved this point about the shaky D, particularly the third pair. They got torched a couple of times in pretty glaring fashion. Yes, it was a nice backhand by Kucherov... Should've been handled/closed down a lot better than that by Chorney.


good of them to get a point though not playing Holtby

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:02 pm
by Nonlinear FC
Because Grubauer stood on his head. Not because the D was tight.