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Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:41 pm
by sancarlos
My daughter has become a bigger NHL hockey fan as of late. And, she is very interested in the upcoming olympics. So, she is ready to bury an axe in the head of Gary Bettman and the other NHL honchos for not allowing their players into the Olympics. It's kind of heartwarming to see her get so agitated over this issue.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:44 pm
by degenerasian
sancarlos wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:41 pm My daughter has become a bigger NHL hockey fan as of late. And, she is very interested in the upcoming olympics. So, she is ready to bury an axe in the head of Gary Bettman and the other NHL honchos for not allowing their players into the Olympics. It's kind of heartwarming to see her get so agitated over this issue.
She's get good stories to cheer for as unknown hockey players do well.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:16 pm
by sancarlos
MRI details yet to come out, but Joe Thornton did something to his MCL last night, and could be out multiple weeks. That REALLY sucks for the Sharks.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:17 pm
by BSF21
sancarlos wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:16 pm MRI details yet to come out, but Joe Thornton did something to his MCL last night, and could be out multiple weeks. That REALLY sucks for the Sharks.
Hopefully just a couple of weeks. That looked like it could have been a career ender. Just scary.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:17 pm
by mister d
That never happens if he'd signed a one year deal with the Rangers instead.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:31 pm
by sancarlos
mister d wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:17 pm That never happens if he'd signed a one year deal with the Rangers instead.
No, the pattern the Rangers usually suffer is just that the player's performance goes down the tubes once they put on your sweater.
(ETA: Yandle, Nash, Staal, Shattenkirk, Boyle, St. Louis... who am I forgetting?)

And on an unrelated note, I thought you'd appreciate this:


Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:15 pm
by mister d
I bumped a very old thread for that reason. Dude has gotten even better production wise and still can stop the nonsense to the point where he has to get counter-run at some point.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:37 pm
by degenerasian
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Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:45 pm
by brian
What's your guys' opinion on what the trade value of Mike Green would be? I'm thinking it's probably a first rounder.

Getting in a spirited debate here on what, if anything, VGK will look to acquire at the trade deadline and I think McPhee would love to add a defenseman and he has a personal history with Green, so there's trust there. I just don't see Vegas willing to part with a first round pick.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:48 pm
by govmentchedda
brian wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:45 pm What's your guys' opinion on what the trade value of Mike Green would be? I'm thinking it's probably a first rounder.

Getting in a spirited debate here on what, if anything, VGK will look to acquire at the trade deadline and I think McPhee would love to add a defenseman and he has a personal history with Green, so there's trust there. I just don't see Vegas willing to part with a first round pick.
How many extra do you have?

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:53 pm
by brian
govmentchedda wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:48 pm
brian wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:45 pm What's your guys' opinion on what the trade value of Mike Green would be? I'm thinking it's probably a first rounder.

Getting in a spirited debate here on what, if anything, VGK will look to acquire at the trade deadline and I think McPhee would love to add a defenseman and he has a personal history with Green, so there's trust there. I just don't see Vegas willing to part with a first round pick.
How many extra do you have?
No extras just the "regular" firsts. Also don't have a third in 2018 because of one deal or another so if they trade the 2018 first-rounder at least it will be late in the first round, but that's going to set them back a little in acquiring prospects of course.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:00 pm
by govmentchedda
Am I wrong in thinking VGK amassed quite a few extra picks in years to come? Or, were most of their extra picks in the 2017 draft?

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:02 pm
by brian
govmentchedda wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:00 pm Am I wrong in thinking VGK amassed quite a few extra picks in years to come? Or, were most of their extra picks in the 2017 draft?
Not wrong just not a lot of firsts. They had three firsts (6th, 12th and 15th overall) last year. 2019 is where most of their picks are.

In 2019, they have one first and three second-rounders and three third-rounders.

In 2020, they have one first and three second-rounders.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:03 pm
by govmentchedda
Capfriendly.com has the info.

3 2nds in 2019 and 2020
No 3d this year, but 2 in 2019
Pit's 4th this year, but not their own (shrewd)
Two 5ths in 2018 and 2019
Two 6ths this year
No 7th this year

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:11 pm
by mister d
I don't know ... does Mike Green (even with salary retained?) get a 1st round pick? Seems like teams are smarter than that now.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:16 pm
by mister d
By way of comparison, Yandle got a top prospect, a 1st and a 2nd but (1) he was paid down under $3MM for two seasons, (2) he's better than Green and (3) I think it was seen as a pretty awful trade at the time. And that's acknowledging that Yandle at $2.8MM is a pretty major asset. I don't know how you mitigate all those factors, but Green for a 1st seems like a pretty bad idea.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:21 pm
by brian
mister d wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:11 pm I don't know ... does Mike Green (even with salary retained?) get a 1st round pick? Seems like teams are smarter than that now.
At least money/cap room is not an issue.

That's the question I suppose whether Green draws a first rounder or not. Because I'm probably OK with parting with a second for him, depending on how well Sbisa is able to return from his surgery and how badly Merrill is actually injured. When it's all said and done I think McPhee stands pat (or might deal a late round pick for a guy who will be a 7th D/healthy scratch/injury insurance type guy which is also fine if there's concern about health.

The Knights also have Jason Garrison buried in the AHL (though he's up for the game tonight) but I don't get the sense they have any faith in him at this point.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:45 pm
by sancarlos
I would think Mike Green could be had for less than a 1st. He’s not what he used to be. Id guess that overpaying for aging vets is the antithesis of McPhee’s plan.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:47 pm
by brian
I like that the trade deadline is so late in the season for the NHL at least. Sbisa's recovery timeline will be a lot more clear in four weeks and assuming no other blueline injuries I don't see Vegas doing anything at the trade deadline.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:20 pm
by rass
Don’t like floaty cam (doesn’t help that I’m watching on our smaller TV).

Goalies are playing too well.

Doc might be having more fun than the players.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:37 pm
by sancarlos
Offside review? Sheesh.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:05 pm
by Nonlinear FC
rass wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:20 pm Don’t like floaty cam (doesn’t help that I’m watching on our smaller TV).

Goalies are playing too well.

Doc might be having more fun than the players.
Yeah, I mentioned that to my family last night... Though my take was that he was selling it all a bit too much.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:06 pm
by govmentchedda
Winnipeg plays a heavy game.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:14 am
by brian


With 32 games left to play. I can’t even anymore.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:50 pm
by rass
ahem

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:57 pm
by brian
After the last few games, I've come to the (likely very unpopular) opinion that Vegas should ride Neal as long as possible and then trade him at the deadline (assuming they can get the kind of haul that Neal might garner. If they can get a first-rounder and a decent prospect, then I think they have to make that deal. I think even without Neal with a little luck they should have a decent chance to win the division and for this year that should be enough.

Get them prospects and lottery tickets in the draft and shoot for making a Cup run starting in 2019-20.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:38 pm
by mister d
Actually, I'd rather you guys buy. I hope everyone else in the NHL buys.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:39 pm
by sancarlos
mister d wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:38 pm Actually, I'd rather you guys buy. I hope everyone else in the NHL buys.
We'll give Paul Martin for him.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:45 pm
by brian
This one's going out to wlu today...stay golden, Ponyboys


Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:51 pm
by brian
MAF gets his Stanley Cup ring. Hopefully only the first of two he gets this calendar year.


Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:55 pm
by rass
Got a little awkward silence there.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:46 pm
by brian
It's a BFD even in Vegas.


Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:23 pm
by brian
Got a little dusty in here during that tribute.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:24 pm
by rass
I’m sure it will be online in a few, but I bet they don’t include him tripping coming into the ice in that group’s first Cup finals against the Wings. That (and his play later in that series) is when I decided I loved him.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:27 pm
by brian
rass wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:24 pm I’m sure it will be online in a few, but I bet they don’t include him tripping coming into the ice in that group’s first Cup finals against the Wings. That (and his play later in that series) is when I decided I loved him.
I wonder if I made fun of him for that in that iteration of The Swamp. It's funny where life takes you sometimes.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:28 pm
by govmentchedda
Can't remember where I heard or read the story. But there's one going around about Fleury and some teammates stopping at an outdoor rink after a dinner out. Fleury rented a pair of skates and then proceeded to skate as fast as he could down the ice and jump over the end boards, scaring the shit out of the rink workers. Only to find that the only to have them find him over the end boards laughing his ass off.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:08 pm
by govmentchedda
brian wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:23 pm Got a little dusty in here during that tribute.
I don't care for the Knights, Pens, or Fleury, and it got a little dusty over here during that. Also, Mrs. Flower is a smoke show.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:39 am
by DSafetyGuy
brian wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:27 pm
rass wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:24 pm I’m sure it will be online in a few, but I bet they don’t include him tripping coming into the ice in that group’s first Cup finals against the Wings. That (and his play later in that series) is when I decided I loved him.
I wonder if I made fun of him for that in that iteration of The Swamp. It's funny where life takes you sometimes.
95% sure we did.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:45 am
by mister d
I think its safe to bet he's the hockey player I've mocked the most here and 75% of that was about his dopey right half boards visits after goals against.

Re: 2017-2018 NHL Regular Season

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:01 pm
by degenerasian
Burrows



How many games?