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Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:53 pm
by mister d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZItPjUqdiYBy far my favorite Yankee loss of all-time. Knocks the Red Sox out of the playoffs minutes into the day my 1st kid was born.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:39 pm
by govmentchedda
Was at a concert at a local small venue and everyone was craning their necks back to the TV behind the bar to keep track of this. I seem to remember the band getting kinda pissed about so many fans being distracted. Can't remember the band, but I think they had a female lead singer. Gonna see if I can figure out who it was.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:44 pm
by govmentchedda
Langhorne Slim at the Crowbar.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:45 pm
by Steve of phpBB
There's rampant speculation among Cubs Twitter that the Cubs are working on a trade with the Orioles to get Machado, and the Cubs would trade Javier Baez or Addison Russell as part of such a deal. Both of those guys have several years of team control left, while Machado only has one year.
Most of the folks on Twitter are aghast that the Cubs would consider such a trade, especially if it includes Baez.
Am I crazy to think the Cubs should jump at the chance to trade Baez for one year of Machado? I love watching Baez play; he brings such joy to the game. But still, he has a terrible eye, is basically a league-average hitter, and while he makes a lot of flashy plays, the metrics I've seen don't seem to like him all that much as a shortstop.
I think Russell has a higher upside than Baez, but still, I'd probably be willing to see the Cubs trade Russell, too - even though he's the guy whose jersey I bought when I finally voided my "don't get personalized jerseys" rule.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:13 pm
by mister d
You sprint to do either trade. Machado is a top ~7 position player.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:31 pm
by Steve of phpBB
mister d wrote:You sprint to do either trade. Machado is a top ~7 position player.
That's my thought. But then I noticed that he seemed to have a down year last season. Do you think that's anything to be concerned about, or just random variance?
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:41 pm
by wlu_lax6
Yeah just want to you want to read when you are just getting comfortable with the idea that maybe the O's can get some talent for Manny.
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2182 ... six-months
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:01 pm
by mister d
Steve of phpBB wrote:That's my thought. But then I noticed that he seemed to have a down year last season. Do you think that's anything to be concerned about, or just random variance?
I’m not at all objective when it comes to Machado but (so?) I wouldn’t be worried.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:41 am
by MaxWebster
literally the moment I realized i was no longer a Red Sox fan (after ~35yrs!?)...when i realized i was laughing madly at how that day finished up and actually clapping.
mister d wrote:
By far my favorite Yankee loss of all-time. Knocks the Red Sox out of the playoffs minutes into the day my 1st kid was born.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:57 pm
by A_B
Cutch to the Giants.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:08 pm
by sancarlos
A_B wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:57 pm
Cutch to the Giants.
With the addition of McCutcheon and Longoria, the Giants have to be the favorite to win the 2013 pennant.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:57 am
by Brontoburglar
sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:08 pm
A_B wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:57 pm
Cutch to the Giants.
With the addition of McCutcheon and Longoria, the Giants have to be the favorite to win the 2013 pennant.
I mean, it is an even year so it's time for the Giants to win a World Series.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:18 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:57 am
sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:08 pm
A_B wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:57 pm
Cutch to the Giants.
With the addition of McCutcheon and Longoria, the Giants have to be the favorite to win the 2013 pennant.
I mean, it is an even year so it's time for the Giants to win a World Series.
Wait ...
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:17 pm
by sancarlos
Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:18 pm
Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:57 am
sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:08 pm
A_B wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:57 pm
Cutch to the Giants.
With the addition of McCutcheon and Longoria, the Giants have to be the favorite to win the 2013 pennant.
I mean, it is an even year so it's time for the Giants to win a World Series.
Wait ...
Steve, We're pretending 2016 was just an aberration from the 2010-2012-2014 pattern.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:49 pm
by Giff
sancarlos wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:17 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:18 pm
Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:57 am
sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:08 pm
A_B wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:57 pm
Cutch to the Giants.
With the addition of McCutcheon and Longoria, the Giants have to be the favorite to win the 2013 pennant.
I mean, it is an even year so it's time for the Giants to win a World Series.
Wait ...
Steve, We're pretending 2016 was just an aberration from the 2010-2012-2014 pattern.
Can we do that for the whole year or is this baseball exclusive?
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:44 pm
by mister d
The Giants will absolutely over-perform their roster moves. I'm done thinking they won't.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:48 pm
by mister d
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:38 pm
by EnochRoot
Somebody retired earlier this year and basically alluded to the fact he was going to get in his boat and go chase the southern cross. Or rather, that was the gist of it.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:46 pm
by mister d
Poor Yelich. Atleast its not Oakland or Tampa, I guess.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:44 pm
by Steve of phpBB
mister d wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:46 pm
Poor Yelich. Atleast its not Oakland or Tampa, I guess.
Milwaukee seems to me like they will be pretty good - and they will have fun with rivalry games against the Cards and Cubs.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:55 pm
by mister d
Sure, but if you're listing out baseball destinations ...
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:20 pm
by EnochRoot
So Machado is going to get his wish this coming season to play SS for the Orioles, which of course (I knew) they'd accommodate his request in order to drive up their asking price at next season's trade deadline.
Beckham will presumably slot over to 3B...
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:03 pm
by mister d
I imagine this is a farwell to SS of sorts knowing that Gregorius has it locked down for his future team.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:27 am
by EnochRoot
mister d wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:03 pm
I imagine this is a farwell to SS of sorts knowing that Gregorius has it locked down for his future team.
I don’t want Manny Machado’s personality anywhere near the Yankees’ clubhouse.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:52 pm
by brian
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:19 pm
by brian
Heh.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:44 pm
by mister d
The one year farewell tour seems just about the worst way to do this.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:54 pm
by brian
mister d wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:44 pm
The one year farewell tour seems just about the worst way to do this.
Not to mention continuing to sell gear with the logo in Ohio for forever basically. The Indians and MLB managed to fuck up what should have been a easy PR win.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:58 pm
by mister d
brian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:54 pm
mister d wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:44 pm
The one year farewell tour seems just about the worst way to do this.
Not to mention continuing to sell gear with the logo in Ohio for forever basically.
The Indians and MLB managed to fuck up what should have been a easy PR win.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:52 pm
by brian
This is the dumbest pace of play idea ever.
Extra inning games aren't the biggest issue. They could easily trim five minutes from games between easy changes to the time between pitching changes and limiting visits to the mound. Honestly, in this day and age we could probably treat a visit to the mound like a timeout in hockey. You get one a game and after you use it, it's gone. (This would mean the manager wouldn't have to walk out to the mound for a pitching change which would also save time.)
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:58 pm
by mister d
Truly hate anything that fucks with the game itself.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:38 pm
by brian
The more I think about it, how ridiculous is it to make an old man walk 40 yards just to make a substitution? Can you imagine that shit in basketball?
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:00 pm
by Steve of phpBB
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:58 pm
Truly hate anything that fucks with the game itself.
Exactly.
However - Did you read the article that compared the game times from a 1984 blowout to one from this year? I can find the link. The real problem seems to be the length of time between pitches. Do you consider a pitch clock to be fucking with the game? Because I can't see any other way to address that, other than things like limiting pitching changes (so pitchers have to go longer and thus throw less hard) - which would also fuck with the game.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:04 pm
by mister d
I don't, but given how pitchers, relievers especially, are max-effort at all times now I see the risks there. A better PA gets heavy tradeoff or fights it altogether.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:07 pm
by brian
I don't want them to have to limit pitching changes I just think visits to the mound are unnecessary.
Like I said if you want to get the gang together for a minute, then you get one timeout a game and you can get together on the mound for 45 seconds or whatever, but that's it. If you want to make any pitching changes after that it has to be done immediately after an AB and done from the dugout.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:09 pm
by A_B
brian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:07 pm
Like I said if you want to ... gang... AB ...do...
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:10 pm
by brian
With baseball you essentially get unlimited timeouts and that's dumb as shit.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:11 pm
by Ryan
brian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:07 pm
I don't want them to have to limit pitching changes I just think visits to the mound are unnecessary.
Like I said if you want to get the gang together for a minute, then you get one timeout a game and you can get together on the mound for 45 seconds or whatever, but that's it. If you want to make any pitching changes after that it has to be done immediately after an AB and done from the dugout.
I'd go for this, but only if the trade-off is that hockey coaches have to shuffle over to the crease to change goalies (and point to the backup goalie, and hold the puck and rub it for a while he gets there)
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:14 pm
by L-Jam3
brian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:10 pm
With baseball you essentially get unlimited timeouts and that's dumb as shit.
If Andy Reid was a baseball manager he'd still find a way to fuck that up.
Re: 2017-18 MLB Offseason Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:18 pm
by Ryan
John Farrell did fuck it up