The Indictment Thread (Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part II)

Post by **brian** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:05 am

MMA followed Trump's tweets and Fox News for three months.

Results are pretty much what you would think, but finally puts to death any notion that Trump is using his tweets to distract or that he's somehow playing 3D chess with the media.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:19 am

I mean, I think the sport is boorishly derivative of a time we've long since evolved from as a species, but I guess I'll give it another look?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:47 am

EnochRoot wrote:I mean, I think the sport is boorishly derivative of a time we've long since evolved from as a species, but I guess I'll give it another look?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Pairs well with avatar.

Post by **brian** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:45 pm

https://twitter.com/pixelatedboat/statu ... 7350710272

1) This is hilarious.

2) So many people actually believed it, there was blowback.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:47 pm

Reproving the whole "there's nothing so ridiculous you'd rule it out with total certainty".

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:55 pm

Let me tell you, it took me a while this morning to realize that wasn't real.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:04 pm

The only thing that leads one to think it's a joke is the broadcast tower bit. That's just preposterous, the rest? Fully believable.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:52 pm

2 years of having to take this idiot seriously, and it still gets worse and worse and worse.

blundercrush · Post by **blundercrush** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:26 pm

Having to take him seriously has been properly fixed:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/it-was-an-open-secret/549653/

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:02 pm

Magary's take is goooood.

All of Wolff’s excerpts from Fire & Fury so far (the book was rushed into stores today) read like jayvee fan fiction. They read like a pilot that Steve Bannon himself wrote, pitched to Hollywood, and had rejected 17 times over. They read, in short, like bullshit. And yet…Wolff has audio. He’s got hours upon hours of audio. Not only that, but the book has already caused legitimate upheaval in the administration, opened a permanent rift between President Trump and Bannon, AND it confirms what we have all always known to be true: that the president severely lacks the cognitive ability to do this job, and that he is surrounded at all times by a cadre of enablers, dunces, and outright thieves. As much as I wanna discredit Wolff, he got receipts and, more important, he used them. Wolff got it all. Wolff nailed them.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:14 pm

Charlie Pierce says "President Trump has attempted to obstruct justice, among other things."

Link to the NYT article he references within.

Fun sentence from Pierce:

A White House lawyer determined that it was his duty to mislead the president* so that the president* would not commit a blatant act of obstruction of justice that would imperil his presidency.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:28 pm

What's Trump doing up this late?

And here's foreign policy the way 14 year olds see it:

https://twitter.com/randpaul/status/949001475174354945

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 4003412992

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:40 pm

https://twitter.com/DannyZuker/status/9 ... 8091065344

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:59 pm

Amazon.ca says it will ship in "1-2 months!"

Chapters/Indigo (bricks and mortar chain and a big online seller of books up here) sold out in all stores - shipments in 2 weeks.

Fantastic!

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:16 am

Got a Kindle or Nook? The digital versions should be ready instantaneously. (The digital version is definitely available on torrent sites.)

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:22 am

Johnnie wrote:Got a Kindle or Nook? The digital versions should be ready instantaneously. (The digital version is definitely available on torrent sites.)

Kindle is available in US (just downloaded it. will read next.)

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:37 am

This guy just doesn't know when to turn the other cheek, or when it might be better to just ignore your enemies...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 9463615489

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 5877765120

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 0631256064

"We have nothing to fear, but fear itself." - FDR

"Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, on this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal." - Lincoln

"Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart." - Donald J. Trump

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:20 am

Pruitt wrote:This guy just doesn't know when to turn the other cheek, or when it might be better to just ignore your enemies...

Yeah, someone might want to tell Trump Reagan had Alzheimer's when he was in office, and the accusations of mental issues were confirmed. Someone also might want to remind him he ran for President in 2000 on the Reform Party ticket. Or not, facts don't matter anymore, so fuck it.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:55 am

[20,000 people rush to twitter to change their name to @VeryStableGenius]

Post by **brian** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:59 am

Trump goes full Fredo.

Never go full Fredo.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:11 pm

So many options for a response...

https://twitter.com/DreamOutLoud70/stat ... 7325773824

or this:

https://youtu.be/vYabrQrXt4A

or this:

https://youtu.be/tZZDqwKASbI

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:43 pm

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 0631256064

I think it should just be pointed out to him that Obama actually won the presidency on his first try, just to see the reaction.

Avram · Post by **Avram** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:25 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/949619270631256064

I think it should just be pointed out to him that Obama actually won the presidency on his first try, just to see the reaction.

so did George W Bush and Herbert Hoover (neither would be considered geniuses)

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:46 pm

Avram wrote:
DSafetyGuy wrote:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/949619270631256064

I think it should just be pointed out to him that Obama actually won the presidency on his first try, just to see the reaction.

so did George W Bush and Herbert Hoover (neither would be considered geniuses)

Love to have someone tell him that Bill Clinton did as well!

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:53 pm

Avram wrote:
DSafetyGuy wrote:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/949619270631256064

I think it should just be pointed out to him that Obama actually won the presidency on his first try, just to see the reaction.

so did George W Bush and Herbert Hoover (neither would be considered geniuses)

Hoover's policies as president were failures during the depression, but I don't know why you imply that he wasn't intelligent. Compared to Trump he was Albert fucking Einstein.

Wiki wrote:...his mother died in 1884, leaving Hoover (age nine), his older brother, and his younger sister as orphans... he went to Newberg, Oregon, to live with his uncle Dr. John Minthorn, a physician and businessman whose own son had died the year before. The Minthorn household was considered cultured and educational, and imparted a strong work ethic... Hoover attended Friends Pacific Academy (now George Fox University), but dropped out at the age of thirteen to become an office assistant for his uncle's real estate office in Salem, Oregon. Though he did not attend high school, Hoover attended night school and learned bookkeeping, typing, and mathematics. Hoover entered Stanford University in 1891...He became a successful mining engineer around the globe and retired in 1912. In the First World War, Hoover built an international reputation as a humanitarian by leading relief efforts in Belgium during the war, and in Eastern Europe afterwards. He headed the U.S. Food Administration during World War I. His reputation as a progressive businessman fighting for efficiency and elimination of waste was built by his service as the Secretary of Commerce (1921–1928).

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:00 pm

P.D.X. wrote:Magary's take is goooood.

All of Wolff’s excerpts from Fire & Fury so far (the book was rushed into stores today) read like jayvee fan fiction. They read like a pilot that Steve Bannon himself wrote, pitched to Hollywood, and had rejected 17 times over. They read, in short, like bullshit. And yet…Wolff has audio. He’s got hours upon hours of audio. Not only that, but the book has already caused legitimate upheaval in the administration, opened a permanent rift between President Trump and Bannon, AND it confirms what we have all always known to be true: that the president severely lacks the cognitive ability to do this job, and that he is surrounded at all times by a cadre of enablers, dunces, and outright thieves. As much as I wanna discredit Wolff, he got receipts and, more important, he used them. Wolff got it all. Wolff nailed them.

I haven't trotted it out in awhile, but since Mr. D has pulled out his greatest hit recently...

Fucking morons.

Avram · Post by **Avram** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:44 pm

sancarlos wrote:
Avram wrote:
DSafetyGuy wrote:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/949619270631256064

I think it should just be pointed out to him that Obama actually won the presidency on his first try, just to see the reaction.

so did George W Bush and Herbert Hoover (neither would be considered geniuses)

Hoover's policies as president were failures during the depression, but I don't know why you imply that he wasn't intelligent. Compared to Trump he was Albert fucking Einstein.
Wiki wrote:...his mother died in 1884, leaving Hoover (age nine), his older brother, and his younger sister as orphans... he went to Newberg, Oregon, to live with his uncle Dr. John Minthorn, a physician and businessman whose own son had died the year before. The Minthorn household was considered cultured and educational, and imparted a strong work ethic... Hoover attended Friends Pacific Academy (now George Fox University), but dropped out at the age of thirteen to become an office assistant for his uncle's real estate office in Salem, Oregon. Though he did not attend high school, Hoover attended night school and learned bookkeeping, typing, and mathematics. Hoover entered Stanford University in 1891...He became a successful mining engineer around the globe and retired in 1912. In the First World War, Hoover built an international reputation as a humanitarian by leading relief efforts in Belgium during the war, and in Eastern Europe afterwards. He headed the U.S. Food Administration during World War I. His reputation as a progressive businessman fighting for efficiency and elimination of waste was built by his service as the Secretary of Commerce (1921–1928).

I don't think that either Bush or Hoover are/were stupid. I think both are reasonably inyelligent. They weren't geniuses. Trump claims he is, and isn't even close. He is stupid.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:27 pm

....But, it wasn't his first time trying to run for president.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_ ... aign,_2000

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:40 pm

I’m not going to claim I was the first to make the Fredo comparison, but damn. That’s too apt.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:21 am

DSafetyGuy wrote:I think it should just be pointed out to him that Obama actually won the presidency on his first try, just to see the reaction.

I was just going for the contempt for Obama/have to undo everything his administration did angle.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:27 am

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:57 am

https://twitter.com/wrdcsc/status/950087659103379461

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:15 am

Bannon's Mea Culpa

Trump Jr. good! Manafort bad!

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:07 am

Pruitt wrote:Bannon's Mea Culpa

Trump Jr. good! Manafort bad!

All Republicans don't agree on much but they all love Bannon getting his ass kicked. He's just a despicable lapdog. Will Breitbert fire him and cut all his strings/access?

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:01 am

Doesn't Bannon own Breitbart?

Hey, the man of the people has spoken...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 9247153154

Hmmm, let's see...

200,000 Salvadorans may be forced to leave as Trump ends immigration protection

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:14 am

Pruitt wrote:Doesn't Bannon own Breitbart?

He doesn't. He's the Executive Chairman. The late Andrew Breitbart and Larry Solov co-founded Breitbart. Solov remains the CEO. Breitbart is owned today by Solov, founder Andrew Breitbart's widow, Susie Breitbart, and the Mercers. Breitbart's family owns the largest stake.

They have allowed Bannon to take the company in this extreme direction. It'll be interesting to see what happens now.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:18 am

degenerasian wrote:
Pruitt wrote:Bannon's Mea Culpa

Trump Jr. good! Manafort bad!

All Republicans don't agree on much but they all love Bannon getting his ass kicked. He's just a despicable lapdog. Will Breitbert fire him and cut all his strings/access?

As far as I know, Bannon isn't some extremist version of what Breitbart is supposed to be. Andrew was every bit as much of a lying, racist, sexist sack of shit that Bannon is.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:39 am

Jerloma wrote:
degenerasian wrote:
Pruitt wrote:Bannon's Mea Culpa

Trump Jr. good! Manafort bad!

All Republicans don't agree on much but they all love Bannon getting his ass kicked. He's just a despicable lapdog. Will Breitbert fire him and cut all his strings/access?

As far as I know, Bannon isn't some extremist version of what Breitbart is supposed to be. Andrew was every bit as much of a lying, racist, sexist sack of shit that Bannon is.

I don't think Andrew intended the company to be his own personal tool (aka a lapdog). Yes it was ultra-right wing bashing the left but I can't imagine Andrew would have been this involved in DC politics and latch onto, get hired by and outright campaign for Donald Trump or Roy Moore like Bannon did. That would be like Hillary Clinton hiring Ariana Huffington to campaign for her.

You could be right though if they still keep Bannon after all this.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:56 am

"Executive Time"

So Trump's work day seems to last anywhere between 5-7 hours, which includes lunch.

Only a very stable genius could oversee the problems of the USA and the free world in so few hours!

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:19 pm

degenerasian wrote:I don't think Andrew intended the company to be his own personal tool (aka a lapdog). Yes it was ultra-right wing bashing the left but I can't imagine Andrew would have been this involved in DC politics and latch onto, get hired by and outright campaign for Donald Trump or Roy Moore like Bannon did. That would be like Hillary Clinton hiring Ariana Huffington to campaign for her.

You could be right though if they still keep Bannon after all this.

As far as I can recall, Andrew Breitbart's thing was to do anything he could - truth or honor be damned - to fight liberalism. So latching on to a president who would let him to that? I think he'd do it in a heartbeat. (If he had any of those left.)