The Swamp

Trump will get the last laugh when Macron sees that his palm is still orange a month later.

Oh that's nice of Trudeau despite the childishness of Trump and the way he ac....

Trump’s Family Fortune Originated in a Canadian Gold-Rush Brothel

...hahahhahahahahahha.

Trolling the troll.

That brothel photo is one of the greatest things I have seen in a long time. Which of course led to this, once someone explained the word "irony" to the brilliant grad of Wharton.



Our next federal election isn't until October of next year. But if it were this year, today's events would probably get Trudeau re-elected.

By the end of the week, we will be Allies with North Korea and at war with Canada...

Cue the Superchunk!

Oh what a time...

"Special Place In Hell"

"There's a special place in hell for any foreign leader that engages in bad faith diplomacy with President Donald J. Trump and then tries to stab him in the back on the way out the door," trade adviser Peter Navarro told Fox News.

But, but...

Trudeau's comments only included statements he's previously made, the Prime Minister's Office pointed out in a statement, adding that Trudeau had made those remarks privately to Trump as well.

No matter. Canada's on the shit list and Russia - only kicked out of the G8 because Obama let them invade Crimea, is a friend.

Johnnie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:31 pm

You'll be seeing this shot on "Trump 2020" campaign literature. Look at the brave man standing up to America's so-called allies.

Thanks to Trump, Canada has never been so united.

To understand the craziness of the following quote, imagine Bernie Sanders tweeting out agreement with something Trump proposed...

Doug Ford, the brother of late Toronto mayor Rob Ford and who this week was elected leader of the province of Ontario. “We will stand shoulder to shoulder with the Prime Minister and the people of Canada,” Ford wrote.

Harper too

Stephen Harper went on to say he doesn't understand the White House's trade obsession with Canada.

"Canada is the biggest single purchaser of U.S. goods and services in the world," he noted, stressing that the U.S. runs a trade surplus with Canada. "I don't think even Trump supporters think the Canadian trade relationship is a problem."

Sounds like Canada's having its "Hugh Grant shows up Billy Bob Thornton in Love Actually" moment.

Canada makes a convenient target for low-information Trump supporters (which is largely but not entirely redundant) but the issue as always is the 20 percent of the GOP who aren’t drooling idiots. I realize Trump is popular with his base but he’s not doing anything to convince moderates and the GOP elites to support him in 2020 and that’s what carried the election for him in 2016.

I still don’t see a path to victory for him assuming he’s still in office if he’s alienating 60 percent of the electorate by shitting on our allies.

I'm going to punch the next fucker I see in a MAGA hat in the face. I don't care how much you hate Muslims, don't vote for this type of shit ever again please.

brian wrote: ↑Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:15 pm Canada makes a convenient target for low-information Trump supporters (which is largely but not entirely redundant) but the issue as always is the 20 percent of the GOP who aren’t drooling idiots. I realize Trump is popular with his base but he’s not doing anything to convince moderates and the GOP elites to support him in 2020 and that’s what carried the election for him in 2016.

I still don’t see a path to victory for him assuming he’s still in office if he’s alienating 60 percent of the electorate by shitting on our allies.

He's moved from the "easy" more traditional targets - Muslims, Latino Immigrants, the media - to new targets - NFL players, members of his own cabinet - to even more bizarre targets - Canada, western Europe.

By the time his term is over, who won't be a Trump target? All the charm of Josef Stalin.

Gunpowder wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:39 am I'm going to punch the next fucker I see in a MAGA hat in the face. I don't care how much you hate Muslims, don't vote for this type of shit ever again please.

LIKE

Pruitt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:17 am

brian wrote: ↑Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:15 pm Canada makes a convenient target for low-information Trump supporters (which is largely but not entirely redundant) but the issue as always is the 20 percent of the GOP who aren’t drooling idiots. I realize Trump is popular with his base but he’s not doing anything to convince moderates and the GOP elites to support him in 2020 and that’s what carried the election for him in 2016.

I still don’t see a path to victory for him assuming he’s still in office if he’s alienating 60 percent of the electorate by shitting on our allies.

He's moved from the "easy" more traditional targets - Muslims, Latino Immigrants, the media - to new targets - NFL players, members of his own cabinet - to even more bizarre targets - Canada, western Europe.

By the time his term is over, who won't be a Trump target? All the charm of Josef Stalin.

Yeah, to be clear, Canada doesn't make a logical target especially since the US runs a trade surplus with Canada, but still we're talking about idiots here (anyone who thinks that Canada is in any way, shape or form somehow to "blame" for trade disparity).

The truly, truly, truly scary thing to think w/r/t these MAGA idiots is that the economy is actually booming. Imagine how many people might start believing Trump if we move into a recession. I think the saving grace there is that most moderates and/or relatively intelligent people realize if the economy starts to falter and we move into a recession it's actually going to be Trump's fault.

The #resistance accounts can sometimes as tiring as the pro-Trumpers, but one account who always entertains me with his Trump trolling is Pete Souza (@petesouza), the Obama WH's photographer.

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:55 am

From insanely funny satire to dogma in less than 15 years. Ever feel like the assholes have won?

Every morning I wake up.

It means you gotta keep fighting, Brian. Like this Supreme Court decision today. They made it easier to remove voters from rolls. That means I'm going to be spending time in North and West Philly this summer getting voters re-upped so they vote for Democrats. Fight fire with fucking fire.

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:48 am It means you gotta keep fighting, Brian. Like this Supreme Court decision today. They made it easier to remove voters from rolls. That means I'm going to be spending time in North and West Philly this summer getting voters re-upped so they vote for Democrats. Fight fire with fucking fire.

I hear you. I'm not throwing in the towel, but it's just dispiriting. I know that's the idea, but it just feels like the money and the assholes are always going to win.

I'm completely dispirited.

This tweet thread is well-timed it would seem given the discussion.

I was at a party the other night and had a discussion/debate with a couple pro-Trump guys about tariffs, VATs and import duties. (These guys are corporate execs, not mouth-breathing knuckle draggers.) They were all over me, claiming that because many of our allies already have one or both of the latter two taxes, Trump is just leveling the playing field by applying tariffs against imports from those countries. I argued (among other arguments) that consumption taxes like a VAT or an excise tax are quite different from tariffs because they are applied against all goods, including those manufactured in the same country, and that they aren't directed at specific producers. (Not to mention the offsetting and probably greater detrimental effect on US manufacturers of tit-for-tat reprisal foreign tariffs).

I wish I hadn't been about four drinks in or I could've made my arguments more coherently.

brian wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:11 pm This tweet thread is well-timed it would seem given the discussion.

A good pep talk indeed.

I realize that Schiff is a world class grandstander, but when will Dems realize that appealing to the GOP’s better angels is a complete waste of time? The GOP cares so much about our traditional trans-Atlantic alliances that they blew off a bunch of allies in invading Iraq and literally tried to change the name french fries to “Freedom fries.”

The end is nigh.

I feel like we're missing Hans Blix, James Franco, and Seth Rogen though.

Oh my Jesus.







I don't even need drugs.

I don’t give a fuck anymore.

Hey Johnnie, no more war games in Korea for you. And we got nothing in exchange! Trump truly is a deal-master.

Johnnie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:59 pm Oh my Jesus.

I don't even need drugs.

Wonder why no one took Dennis Rodman seriously?

tennbengal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:45 am Hey Johnnie, no more war games in Korea for you. And we got nothing in exchange! Trump truly is a deal-master.

Friends of mine in Korea right now have been posting photos and video of them being at Ultra Music Festival in Seoul.

I'd venture to say that if I was non-volunteered back to the peninsula for a year it would be all soju all the time regardless.

I just wish Obama was given the same latitude to meet like this.

Edit:

Trump Pledge to Halt Military Exercises Surprises Pentagon and Seoul

“We fly in bombers from Guam,” Mr. Trump said. “I said it when I first started, I said, ‘Where do the bombers come from? Guam. Nearby.’ I said ‘Oh great, nearby, where is nearby?’ Six and a half hours. Six and a half hours. That’s a long time for these big massive planes to be flying to South Korea to practice and then drop bombs all over the place and then go back to Guam.”

“I know a lot about airplanes,” Mr. Trump added. “It’s very expensive. I didn’t like it. What I did say is and I think it is very provocative.”

Oh my Jesus. This is equally hilarious and sad.

All I can think about are the Republican shitstains I used to work with and the reaction I'd give to them. And if they heard this coming from Obama...oh hypocrisy.

The 'trailer' at the beginning is hilarious. Straight from Michael Scott Productions.

eta: no idea how to get it to start at the beginning. hit rewind!

That's awesomely over the top.

It's not that crazy. Vietnam had sanctions lifted in 1995 and look now. Resorts everywhere. Especially in Da Nang and Nha Trang.

If it changes it changes fast.

degenerasian wrote: ↑Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:48 pm That's awesomely over the top.

It's not that crazy. Vietnam had sanctions lifted in 1995 and look now. Resorts everywhere. Especially in Da Nang and Nha Trang.

If it changes it changes fast.

There's zero chance Kim wasn't already fully aware what will happen if he were to open it up. In fact, less than zero. He has no interest in that. He does however have an interest in gaining legitimacy as a dictator. To that end, Trump's served him nicely.

If he opens up the country even a little bit, he has to allow some freedom of information to flow into the country, at least in some small amount to accommodate tourism. Once that happens and the North Korean people learn just how the rest of the world lives, the gig is up for Kim, so yeah. Never gonna happen.

I think you guys are right. But I always hold out hope.
Could Kim be a Deng Xiaoping figure? Ruthlessly took China from nothing in the 80s to economic reforms.
Vietnam took that model and multiplied it ten fold. China still has some restrictions (like great firewall). Vietnam has nothing. Going to Vietnam today is like going to Bangkok.

If things take off, they take off fast. Another example is Myanmar. Opened up in 2015 Smartphone networks there have exploded. Foreign investors are coming in etc..