The Swamp

Is this a joke? The need to invent white martyrdom is all-consuming for this crowd. It's Fox's lifeblood.

SA is definitely a situation ripe for another bloody racial conflict, so yeah it should be watched. But 1. there's no way this is happening even close to the degree that I'm sure some news outlets have pushed, 2. I highly doubt anybody is being murdered, and 3. suddenly you care about racially motivated government policies in South Africa? After most of the black people there have been relegated to fuckin' tin shacks infested with giant kid-eating rats that burn to the ground anytime someone throws a match? The Central Park 5 should put out an ad about Trump and four of his co-conspirators.

It's literally a white supremacist fantasy. He's now amplifying literal made-up scare tactics from white nationalists.

tennbengal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:01 am It's literally a white supremacist fantasy. He's now amplifying literal made-up scare tactics from white nationalists.

Interestingly but predicatably, it was pointed out that this was literally the first time Trump mentioned Africa in a tweet.

Pruitt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:55 amInterestingly but predicatably, it was pointed out that this was literally the first time Trump mentioned Africa in a tweet.

And the fact that it didn't involve Toto is the real tragedy.

A privately financed anti-Trump billboard went up in my town this week.

The freakout on local social media is sad, and predictable, and sadly predictable.

rass wrote: ↑Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:45 am A privately financed anti-Trump billboard went up in my town this week.

The freakout on local social media is sad, and predictable, and sadly predictable.

The comments under that article are sadly predictable too.

We're close to entering the "Will the Trump kids turn on dad, or vice versa" stage of things. Which is when this shit is really gonna become amazing.

rass wrote: ↑Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:45 am A privately financed anti-Trump billboard went up in my town this week.

The freakout on local social media is sad, and predictable, and sadly predictable.

Well, free speech is what the leader wants...

degenerasian wrote: ↑Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:38 am We're close to entering the "Will the Trump kids turn on dad, or vice versa" stage of things. Which is when this shit is really gonna become amazing.

They won't turn on dad, but he will leave them to the wolves if necessary to save himself.

Exclusive: Ex-Trump World Tower doorman releases 'catch-and-kill' contract about alleged Trump affair

Trump knocked up the house keeper. The National Enquirer stopped it from going public.

This story dropped at 11:15 pm on a Friday. Hooo boy.

QAnon Theorist Meets Trump

This is so, so fucked up.

Looks like an adult minion from Despicable Me.

Johnnie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:21 am Exclusive: Ex-Trump World Tower doorman releases 'catch-and-kill' contract about alleged Trump affair

Trump knocked up the house keeper. The National Enquirer stopped it from going public.

This story dropped at 11:15 pm on a Friday. Hooo boy.

Plot twist: The secret love child is Stephen Miller.

And not that it will be a surprise, but the pettiness of this man is simply jaw-dropping.

So he put out a condolence tweet to the McCain family last night (complete with an exclamation point!)

Today, he retweeted four messages that take on the media, Hillary, Jeff sessions and others - just so the top of his feed is not about anything other than him.

Pruitt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:38 pm

Perfect. Like the Crooked Media guys say, Trump's WH is like the plot of House of Cards with the cast of Veep.

McGahn Leaving White House "in Fall"

Significant?

Pruitt wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:06 am McGahn Leaving White House "in Fall"

Significant?

Probably not. Most anything he knows is probably covered by attorney/client privilege but it apparently puts the lie to Trump's claims that he didn't care that McGahn submitted to being interviewed by Mueller's team.

“fudging”

brian wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:08 am

Pruitt wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:06 am McGahn Leaving White House "in Fall"

Significant?

Probably not. Most anything he knows is probably covered by attorney/client privilege but it apparently puts the lie to Trump's claims that he didn't care that McGahn submitted to being interviewed by Mueller's team.

Trump doesn't have attorney/client privilege with McGahn. McGahn's duty is to the Office of the President, not to Trump. I think an argument can be made that information that damages the Presidency if withheld can be revealed to protect the Office, even if the Man doesn't consent. Also, any communication that furthers the commission of a crime is not privileged. I think Trump used his personal attorneys, not McGahn for the commission of crimes, and from everything that has leaked, McGahn objects when Trump commits crimes and violates norms of the Presidency, but Trump doesn't always (ever?) take McGahn's advice.

The most interesting thing about McGahn announcing he is leaving office, is that he was completely unaware he was announcing this until Trump tweeted it. I do think this is significant, as Trump is trying to bring in someone loyal to him, or at least willing to green light whatever he wants to do. It's also significant that Trump wanted to make it seem like McGahn decided to leave, not that he was being fired. Trump has done this several times, and not just announcing resignations without discussing it with the person, but in hiring. He has announced people accepting posts when he not only didn't offer the post, but never even discussed the possibility of an appointment. Imagine suddenly getting bombarded with texts, tweets and calls because the President announced you accepted a post, and the WH never even contacted you.

rass wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:18 am“fudging”

From what I read, the entire interview has been available online since the day it occurred.

So the frenzy of unhinged tweets this morning....is there any doubt that Trump is going to do something crazy/stupid this weekend? Most likely during the McCain funeral?

I wish I could bet on something like that.

Or there is some major Mueller related news coming.

I'm lucky that this doesn't affect me, but this sucks.

Damn, this thread got to the middle of the 2nd page.

Anyhoo, this is fucking wild:

I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration

The Times today is taking the rare step of publishing an anonymous Op-Ed essay. We have done so at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure. We believe publishing this essay anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective to our readers.

But as the top comment in the Reddit thread states:

tldr; I'm a Republican and want to do Republican things so we're doing them anyway while we make the rest of the country and world suffer this dangerous man. We would literally pay any amount of blood for another dollar of tax cuts.

So yes. Adults are in the room and people are aware this is a bonkers situation no one wants to stop, but shitty people are there to right the ship.

Yuuuuuuup. "We all know this is bad, but the alternative, which is putting a stop to it is worse. For us."

I actually wondered after the election that one of the instances of the GOP turning on Trump would be once he gets his 2nd judge nominated.

They could be readying up to shove him off the cliff.

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:37 pm I actually wondered after the election that one of the instances of the GOP turning on Trump would be once he gets his 2nd judge nominated.

They could be readying up to shove him off the cliff.

With 2 months to November... interesting.

Pruitt wrote: ↑Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:49 pm

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:37 pm I actually wondered after the election that one of the instances of the GOP turning on Trump would be once he gets his 2nd judge nominated.

They could be readying up to shove him off the cliff.

With 2 months to November... interesting.

That would be the Machiavellian move for the GOP if AND ONLY IF they thought that would drive moderate base turnout more than looney bin turnout and I’m no longer convinced that’s true.

I’m sure that’s what they thought for a long time.

“This guy is crazy and dangerous but we can get a couple of Supremes and some tax cuts out of this and we can cut him loose” but they didn’t count on 90 percent of their base being racist, batshit crazy fucknuggets.

brian wrote: ↑Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:07 pm I’m sure that’s what they thought for a long time.

“This guy is crazy and dangerous but we can get a couple of Supremes and some tax cuts out of this and we can cut him loose” but they didn’t count on 90 percent of their base being racist, batshit crazy fucknuggets.

"It is to be hoped that the leaders of this movement will place the nation above the party." - Franz von Papen re: Nazis 1933. Or maybe Paul Ryan 2016.

brian wrote: ↑Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:07 pm I’m sure that’s what they thought for a long time.

“This guy is crazy and dangerous but we can get a couple of Supremes and some tax cuts out of this and we can cut him loose” but they didn’t count on 90 percent of their base being racist, batshit crazy fucknuggets.

The GOP very intentionally created the mythological boogie men and heroes to rally the fucknuggets and feed their insanity. Back to The Southern Strategy of pulling in Dixiecrats by feeding into racist beliefs, by creating the Right to Life movement whole cloth to unify Catholics (and eventually Evangelicals) who largely voted Dem, to Christian Oppression (War on XMas, gay marriage ruining Christianity), Muslim immigrants causing a scourge of violence, rape and Sharia Law all across Europe, they are coming for your guns!... The GOP knew the only way to get people to vote against their interests was through fear-mongering, and they culled a base of racist crazies driven batshit crazy by 50+ years of fueling their fears. It just reached a tipping point where the powers behind the power could no longer control the flames they lit.

The takes around the internet of this Op Ed are enthralling to take in collectively.

Fox News is losing its collective shit.

David Frum calls it a Constitutional crisis. (I'm inclined to agree when he boiled it down to Wait, you mean to tell me you aren't invoking the mechanism to fix this because that would be the Constitutional crisis? What the fuck?)

Piece after piece calling the writer a coward. (A random Reddit user coined the individual Derpthroat.)

What's also fascinating is that the media is calling bullshit on this anonymous person soundly. They aren't playing around, it seems.

There literally is a Deep State and it's Trump's people, not some freemason secret Democrat organization.

Plus, and here's another twist, the word 'lodestar' is making it seem like Pence wrote the article. But that seems like a deliberate coincidence to throw the scent off of who actually wrote it.

And Woodward's book, the Kavanaugh hearing, and Trump's literal co-conspirator ties to felonies in the immediate backdrop plus the Mueller investigation and looming elections hovering over all of this makes it even more amplified.

This seems like an acid trip that won't end.

Johnnie wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:58 pm I'm lucky that this doesn't affect me, but this sucks.

Trump the socialist?

Just as a point of reference, the socialist NDP have been in power and me being a provincial employee have had my salary frozen all 3 of those years. Can't even keep up with inflation.

That's why next election I hope they burn.

Time for your daily dose of "something you would never have believed possible 24 months ago."

Not sure which is the more (cynically) enjoyable option: that Pence wrote the op-ed or that someone else did but purposely dropped a hint to make it look like Pence was the author.

Someone said the funniest possible source is Barron and that person was right.

Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:33 am Time for your daily dose of "something you would never have believed possible 24 months ago."

Interesting timing...

Justice Department to announce hacking charges against North Korean operative

Also...

On Thursday, the Treasury Department also is expected to announce sanctions on North Korea individuals linked to the malicious activities.

Cory Booker threatening to do something besides providing a good quote, huh?



(Or the threat was just a good quote.)