EnochRoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:43 pm
The opportunity cost here is what a lot of the OpEds (written, spoken) by women in the press have lamented to her: “don’t confuse your bad date with assault, because it cheapens the movement.”
Then isn't it good this came up, so we can have the discussion? Isn't that what's happening? Men and women (the reasonable ones) are actually talking to each other instead of at each other for once. I haven't even see any women suggest his career should be over, but putting the breaks on him selling himself as some kind of expert in relationships or dating seems pretty reasonable. If you're selling yourself as some kind of expert at dating or relationships, then it's kind of newsworthy if in fact you're just as hopeless at it as everyone else.
My wife and I had a long discussion about the Aziz situation last night. One of her points was that damn near every woman has a story like Aziz's date, in that they were put in the awkward position of having to fend off someone who was pushing the boundaries of what she wanted to do.
We also went through the Megan Ganz/Dan Harmon stuff, which was quite good.
I think that it's common is pretty well-established, I'd be curious to hear what her take on this situation is given that understanding/assumption.
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:43 pm
The opportunity cost here is what a lot of the OpEds (written, spoken) by women in the press have lamented to her: “don’t confuse your bad date with assault, because it cheapens the movement.”
Then isn't it good this came up, so we can have the discussion? Isn't that what's happening? Men and women (the reasonable ones) are actually talking to each other instead of at each other for once. I haven't even see any women suggest his career should be over, but putting the breaks on him selling himself as some kind of expert in relationships or dating seems pretty reasonable. If you're selling yourself as some kind of expert at dating or relationships, then it's kind of newsworthy if in fact you're just as hopeless at it as everyone else.
My wife and I had a long discussion about the Aziz situation last night. One of her points was that damn near every woman has a story like Aziz's date, in that they were put in the awkward position of having to fend off someone who was pushing the boundaries of what she wanted to do.
We also went through the Megan Ganz/Dan Harmon stuff, which was quite good.
I think that it's common is pretty well-established, I'd be curious to hear what her take on this situation is given that understanding/assumption.
I don't believe she thinks anything criminal happened. I think she's bummed that someone whose work she liked would be pushy about sex. She definitely doesn't think Aziz is the victim in this situation. I'm curious how both of us will feel when rewatching Master of None, or watching anything else he does from here.
tennbengal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:47 pm
Yeah. That’s on point.
I've tried - unsuccessfully - to avoid this story as it is so irritating, but my wife went on a rant last night that was pretty much a paraphrasing of the one by Ashley Banfield.
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:02 pm
by Nonlinear FC
I just watched it again... She looks like she wants to come through the screen and strangle "Grace."
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:42 pm
by The Sybian
Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:02 pm
I just watched it again... She looks like she wants to come through the screen and strangle "Grace."
Apparently the author of the article responded to Banfield, attacking her personally, making fun of her hair, age and irrelevance. She hit a homerun in her response. She kept it classy, where she easily could have gone off, but put the author in her place in a strong way.
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:11 pm
by tennbengal
How do I vote for Ashley Banfield for president?
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:36 am
by DSafetyGuy
Here's the author's response to an invitation to come on Banfield's show.
It's an unequivocal no from me. The way your colleague Ashleigh (?), someone I'm certain no one under the age of 45 has ever heard of, by the way, ripped into my source directly was one of the lowest, most despicable things I've ever seen in my entire life. Shame on her. Shame on HLN. Ashleigh could have "talked" to me. She could have "talked" to my editor or my publication. But instead, she targeted a 23-year-old woman in one of the most vulnerable moments of her life, someone she's never f------ met before, for a little attention. I hope the ratings were worth it! I hope the ~500 RTs on the single news write-up made that burgundy lipstick bad highlights second-wave feminist has-been feel really relevant for a little while. She DISGUSTS me, and I hope when she has more distance from the moment she has enough of a conscience left to feel remotely ashamed — doubt it, but still. Must be nice to piggyback off of the fact that another woman was brave enough to speak up and add another dimension to the societal conversation about sexual assault. Grace wouldn't know how that feels, because she struck out into this alone, because she's the bravest person I've ever met. I would NEVER go on your network. I would never even watch your network. No woman my age would ever watch your network. I will remember this for the rest of my career — I'm 22 and so far, not too shabby! And I will laugh the day you fold. If you could let Ashleigh know I said this, and that she is no-holds-barred the reason, it'd be a real treat for me.
Thanks,
Katie
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:42 am
by degenerasian
She sounds perfect for Fox News
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:45 am
by DSafetyGuy
degenerasian wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:42 am
She sounds perfect for Fox News
The "I will remember this for the rest of my career — I'm 22 and so far, not too shabby!" line to me is met with the instant rebuttal of "because you'll fade away into complete and utter uselessness very soon".
Frankly, the author is using this story to catapult herself in the industry, the same thing of which she accuses Banfield. Of course, she's far too stupid to realize it.
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:49 am
by P.D.X.
I had never even heard of the publication that she writes for.
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:57 am
by A_B
degenerasian wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:42 am
She sounds perfect for Fox News
Yeah. Fox news is the perfect place for someone who is trying to shame powerful men.
Based on what I've heard (my wife works for Wynn Resorts) this tracks.
Will be interesting to see the fallout from this. This isn't a Weinstein situation. Steve Wynn is worth several billion dollars and has a pretty tight hammerlock on his board of directors. But could/should hopefully bring him down.
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:34 pm
by rass
Man, between the living hell of being President and the #metoo movement, it's almost like it isn't worth being a billionaire anymore.
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:38 pm
by A_B
$7.5 million? I'd fuck him for that.
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:42 pm
by brian
This one really hits home because it was the spa employees (where she works) that he was preying on. There's a pretty decent chance I know some of these women.
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:27 pm
by Rex
This is like reading an obit for someone you already thought was dead.
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:11 pm
by Pruitt
Rex wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:27 pm
This is like reading an obit for someone you already thought was dead.
Or just reanimated or something. That face doesn't look right.
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:13 pm
by sancarlos
I think he's wearing a mask, there.
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:13 pm
by Johnny Carwash
Guy Smiley, as reimagined by Tim Burton.
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:21 pm
by Pruitt
Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:13 pm
Guy Smiley, as reimagined by Tim Burton.
Nice!
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:07 pm
by The Sybian
Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:13 pm
Guy Smiley, as reimagined by Tim Burton.
That is fucking hilarious. He looks like a bad Madam Tussaud creation, maybe stored in a room that was too hot.
Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:13 pm
Guy Smiley, as reimagined by Tim Burton.
That is fucking hilarious. He looks like a bad Madam Tussaud creation, maybe stored in a room that was too hot.
In all seriousness, when I saw pictures of Wynn yesterday, my initial thought was 'Was he in some horrible disfiguring accident or something?". When I then read that he's just had way too much plastic surgery, I thought "Wait...he wanted to look like that?".
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:23 pm
by brian
He's also blind so it's not like he can really see himself anyway.
(He's actually literally legally blind but is too vain to admit it. When he walks through the halls of his casino he has two security guards on each side who are there less for security and more so that he knows where to walk.)
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:16 pm
by brian
Also. And you didn’t hear this from me, but there’s a couple employees who had the sense to save employee clothing with — shall we say — DNA on them. He’s fucked.
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:10 am
by Johnny Carwash
brian wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:16 pm
Also. And you didn’t hear this from me, but there’s a couple employees who had the sense to save employee clothing with — shall we say — DNA on them. He’s fucked.
He thought he could get away with forcing her to perform Bellagio but it turned out to be a Mirage after he left a Golden Nugget behind.
brian wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:16 pm
Also. And you didn’t hear this from me, but there’s a couple employees who had the sense to save employee clothing with — shall we say — DNA on them. He’s fucked.
He thought he could get away with forcing her to perform Bellagio but it turned out to be a Mirage after he left a Golden Nugget behind.
top shelf
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:57 am
by Pruitt
Thanks to plastic surgery, Wynn and his wife look like an alien version of what humans look like.
brian wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:16 pm
Also. And you didn’t hear this from me, but there’s a couple employees who had the sense to save employee clothing with — shall we say — DNA on them. He’s fucked.
He thought he could get away with forcing her to perform Bellagio but it turned out to be a Mirage after he left a Golden Nugget behind.
Does his name rhyme with Grudeau? Because that really wouldn't surprise me.
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:53 pm
by mister d
Tim Horton.
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:01 pm
by Rex
It's Geddy Lee
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:07 pm
by Ryan
Owen Hart
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:08 pm
by Johnny Carwash
Ascending order of likelihood:
10. Trudeau
9. Wayne Gretzky
8. Alex Trebek
7. Don Cherry
6. the guy from Danger Bay
5. Warren Kinsella
4. Degen
3. Pruitt
2. Red Green
1. trick question; no one from Canada is famous
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:30 pm
by Pruitt
Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:08 pm
Ascending order of likelihood:
10. Trudeau
9. Wayne Gretzky
8. Alex Trebek
7. Don Cherry
6. the guy from Danger Bay
5. Warren Kinsella
4. Degen 3. Pruitt
2. Red Green
1. trick question; no one from Canada is famous
Warren Kinsella - who posted the story - is (for Canada) a publicity hound and shit disturber. Which in american terms means that he'd be on PBS. While his reputation isn't perfect, I don;t think he's making this shit up.
9) Gretzky - Not "powerful" in the way Kinsella would use it.
6) Donnely Rhodes recently died.
3) I have been working at home for 21 years, so unless the girls from the KPop videos that Degen posts can hear me, I'm off the hook.
I really can't guess who this could be. He's not the type of guy to point a finger at any show biz types - politics is his forte. Don't think Trudeau Jr. is the answer here. But I can guarantee one thing - whoever it is will get everyone in The Swamp other than Degen and myself heading to Wikipedia to figure out who it is.
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:35 pm
by Rex
The only Canadian I would describe as powerful is the one responsible for setting the half hour ahead time zone for Newfoundland.
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:25 pm
by Ryan
Rex wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:35 pm
The only Canadian I would describe as powerful is the one responsible for setting the half hour ahead time zone for Newfoundland.
Yep, Dave Coulier
Re: Kevin Spacey's Career?
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:29 pm
by The Sybian
Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:08 pm
Ascending order of likelihood:
10. Trudeau
9. Wayne Gretzky
8. Alex Trebek
7. Don Cherry
6. the guy from Danger Bay
5. Warren Kinsella
4. Degen
3. Pruitt
2. Red Green
1. trick question; no one from Canada is famous
Red Green..., Ha! Nobody is more powerful than 24 time Juno Award winner Anne Murray. I'd say she is going down, but she already did, which is what got her in trouble in the first place.
