The Swamp

A_B wrote:Rumors that Currie has been fired as AD, but nothing from an ironclad source as of yet so don't talk about this at all until we know thanks.

ETA: ESPN confirms. And apparently Phil Fulmer has been sabotaging to finagle the AD job for himself.

This makes all the sense in the world.

Also: fire everybody. Fulmer, Currie, SID, strength and conditioning, EVERYBODY. Leave the equipment staff, maybe. Everybody else out. Clean house and start over.

Let’s focus the embarrassment where it belongs.

chuck [and that’s not on Vol fan, not at ALL]

Jimbo Fisher leaving Florida State for Texas A&M. Shit just got real.

brian wrote:Jimbo Fisher leaving Florida State for Texas A&M. Shit just got real.

Man I don't get that at all.

A_B wrote:

brian wrote:Jimbo Fisher leaving Florida State for Texas A&M. Shit just got real.

Man I don't get that at all.

It's a little puzzling, but who knows what goes on behind the scenes at FSU. And this season might have opened Fisher's eyes to what another difficult season might be like.

Mostly I think though -- just follow the money. Also, not like it's any tougher to recruit at TXAM vs. FSU.

So FSU to probation in 2019?

A_B wrote:

brian wrote:Jimbo Fisher leaving Florida State for Texas A&M. Shit just got real.

Man I don't get that at all.

Best part was his undecorated Christmas tree at the curb today.

I'm sure FSU Twitter will handle this well.

drchuck wrote:

A_B wrote:Rumors that Currie has been fired as AD, but nothing from an ironclad source as of yet so don't talk about this at all until we know thanks.

ETA: ESPN confirms. And apparently Phil Fulmer has been sabotaging to finagle the AD job for himself.

This makes all the sense in the world.

Also: fire everybody. Fulmer, Currie, SID, strength and conditioning, EVERYBODY. Leave the equipment staff, maybe. Everybody else out. Clean house and start over.

Let’s focus the embarrassment where it belongs.

chuck [and that’s not on Vol fan, not at ALL]

ANNNNNNNNDDDD...Fulmer is the new AD.

Jesus. What an unbelievable clusterfuck going on there. Somehow I feel like Butch Jones is just laughing his ass off thinking about the $6 million coming his way (I think that number is about right.)

Will be interesting to see what his next move is by the way consider he's not very well liked by his former players at Central and Cincinnati (I can't speak to Tennessee, but I don't have any reason to think it would be any different).

He's a guy who's never going to be able to stay in a place for very long.

He doesn't have the personality to do TV for a year, I can tell you that.

A_B wrote:He doesn't have the personality to do TV for a year, I can tell you that.

Without a doubt. And believe it or not, he doesn't have any real coordinator experience (he was hired as head coach at CMU after being WR coach at West Virginia). I think he might have been an OC for a year or two at Ferris State (Division II). Guessing he probably lands an OC gig somewhere.

brian wrote:Also, not like it's any tougher to recruit at TXAM vs. FSU.

I don't know about that.

The only way this makes any sense is if Fisher really didn't like the AD or if the school overreacted to this one bad season and he didn't like it.

A_B wrote:ANNNNNNNNDDDD...Fulmer is the new AD.

and they're trying to fire Currie FOR CAUSE?

The book somebody is going to write about this month is gonna be a page-turner, I tell you what.

chuck [when Starkville, Mississippi is the most functional college town in the Southeast...]

Shirley wrote:

brian wrote:Also, not like it's any tougher to recruit at TXAM vs. FSU.

I don't know about that.

The only way this makes any sense is if Fisher really didn't like the AD or if the school overreacted to this one bad season and he didn't like it.

I'll grant it's a somewhat puzzling decision even if you set aside the $75M A&M is paying him, but if Fisher can get four consecutive Top 5 recruiting classes to Florida State he can do it to Texas A&M as well. There is no shortage of elite players in Texas, the Longhorns are (temporarily at least) in a down cycle and other schools like TCU and Houston can be players, but they don't have the name-brand of Texas A&M.

This is an incredible coup for Texas A&M. I predict they win a national championship by 2024.

Either Ohio State or Alabama being the first team out will be peak schaudenfreude either way.

brian wrote:Either Ohio State or Alabama being the first team out will be peak schaudenfreude either way.

Agreed. I also think Clemson would hammer either of those teams if they end up in the #1/#4 matchup.

Clemson/Oklahoma/Georgia/Alabama presumably?

Joe K wrote:

brian wrote:Either Ohio State or Alabama being the first team out will be peak schaudenfreude either way.

Agreed. I also think Clemson would hammer either of those teams if they end up in the #1/#4 matchup.

Clemson wants no part of bama with a month to prepare. Ohio state they will fuck up.

But I think Ohio state will end up benfitting from a confer nice title despite benefitting from not winning one last year.

All of the fox commentators had OSU as the #4 team...that's crazy. ONe or two? ok. But all? The fix is in. Bog 10 gota bigger swinging political dick, even if the SEC has generally had the bigger performance dick.


Yeah. AB-the_drunk. Whatever. Fuck Ohio state.

Y'know, it was ugly as sin, but props to Ohio State for getting that big win over Wisconsin. Pasadena is where the Buckeyes belong, obviously. There is no more appropriate stage for the winner of the Big Ten, even in a down year, than the Rose Bowl.

And honestly, I can't possibly think of a better test for this Ohio State team than Southern Ca...

...wait. What?

FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU WHADDAYA MEAN WE'D PLAY CLEMSON AGAIN

chuck [low-key hoping Alabama makes the playoff so they can deal with Dabo and we can play a proper Rose Bowl...in freakin' ARIZONA]

drchuck wrote:chuck [low-key hoping Alabama makes the playoff so they can deal with Dabo and we can play a proper Rose Bowl...in freakin' ARIZONA]

No, let's correct that. It's not even low-key. The narrative of this stupid playoff is rapidly becoming "Ohio State team with an inexplicable loss backs into the Playoff and is placed in no-win situation against Southern power". I am ALREADY ready to be excluded from this narrative, and the committee hasn't found an excuse for slotting us in amid all the screaming yet. If Ohio State gets in over Alabama, it's bitterly unfair to Alabama. I'm saying it in advance. Nobody give Ohio State alum any crap 'round here.

The solution to this "Alabama or Ohio State?" narrative is simple, because there IS an undefeated team that's been top-5 in advanced metrics all season long and is entertaining to watch and would deliver the Florida market, but the American Athletic Conference doesn't exist in this committee's eyes oho let's find an excuse to keep UCF behind a four-loss team.

chuck [spent his day watching the FCS playoffs yesterday and didn't feel like a sucker because of it, COME ON YOU TURNOVER PLANK]

A_B wrote:Bog 10 gota bigger swinging political dick, even if the SEC has generally had the bigger performance dick.

Yeah. AB-the_drunk. Whatever. Fuck Ohio state.

This should go on AB the Drunk’s Swamp HoF plaque.

My cold take is that although I'd take Alabama at #4, the choice will be eminently defensible either way, and not really worth any anger. With the SEC and FSU having down years, OSU played the tougher slate of games and had better wins. The Committee may also be hesitant to give the SEC two bids in a down year. But it'd also be entirely reasonable for the Commitee to just take the four Power-5 teams who have only 1 loss, as they did last year. And there's appeal in setting up a Clemson-Alabama trilogy and an OSU-USC Rosy Fiesta Bowl (as Chuck pointed out).

I don’t think the SEC should get two teams in a four-team Field until it joins the other major conferences and schedules nine conferences games.

Alabama gets it. Both SEC teams will be underdogs in the semis, I would think.

Joe K wrote:Alabama gets it. Both SEC teams will be underdogs in the semis, I would think.

Thank God. Brink on Sam Darnold and Ronald Jones.

And both those semifinals are just tasty.

chuck [still want UCF to have a shot at Clemson tho]

Also, if the Big 10 being left out pushes the ball forward on the 8-team playoff that would be just perfect, that is good too.

5 conference champs from the big 5, the best non-big 5 team, and 2 at-large teams. Done and done.

Boise! I’m strangely excited about this one. Gonna try to get up there for the game. Never seen CMU play in a bowl other than Detroit.

brian wrote:Boise! I’m strangely excited about this one. Gonna try to get up there for the game. Never seen CMU play in a bowl other than Detroit.

The Freeze Your Ass Off in Idaho Bowl!

(My team plays in the Freeze Your Ass Off in Albuquerque Bowl.)

tennbengal wrote:Also, if the Big 10 being left out pushes the ball forward on the 8-team playoff that would be just perfect, that is good too.

5 conference champs from the big 5, the best non-big 5 team, and 2 at-large teams. Done and done.

Like many, I look forward to all the complaints about which two-loss teams get in and which ones don't in this scenario.

DSafetyGuy wrote:

tennbengal wrote:Also, if the Big 10 being left out pushes the ball forward on the 8-team playoff that would be just perfect, that is good too.

5 conference champs from the big 5, the best non-big 5 team, and 2 at-large teams. Done and done.

Like many, I look forward to all the complaints about which two-loss teams get in and which ones don't in this scenario.

I don't care at that point, really. Win your conference or deal with the vagaries of trying to get in as an at-large. It would, at least, mean that winning the conference absolutely means something. Which would be kinda cool.

DSafetyGuy wrote:

tennbengal wrote:Also, if the Big 10 being left out pushes the ball forward on the 8-team playoff that would be just perfect, that is good too.

5 conference champs from the big 5, the best non-big 5 team, and 2 at-large teams. Done and done.

Like many, I look forward to all the complaints about which two-loss teams get in and which ones don't in this scenario.

Compare it to March Madness where there are complaints about Iowa or whoever getting in over like, Middle Tennessee State, and no one cares because we're talking about the 30th or so best teams in the country so the complaints are diminished.

The complaining now is less than it was, and if you add 4 more teams it will be even easier to dismiss.

What SL said.

Any playoff system that does not give the only undefeated D1 program in the country a shot at the championship is inherently flawed. You shouldn't be made to think / feel like a SJW to recognize this.

(USF alum here. Not a fan of UCF, but right is right)...

EnochRoot wrote:Any playoff system that does not give the only undefeated D1 program in the country a shot at the championship is inherently flawed. You shouldn't be made to think / feel like a SJW to recognize this.

(USF alum here. Not a fan of UCF, but right is right)...

They would be in the playoff under an 8-team scenario.

sancarlos wrote:
(My team plays in the Freeze Your Ass Off in Albuquerque Bowl.)

But the New Mexican food makes it worth it (made a pit stop in ABQ this past week on way to and back from PHX) food was fantastic as always.

If I was better with the search function, I'd go back and just cut and paste what I write every year around this time. I'll keep it short:

Every other sport, particularly all of the other football divisions, has some form of a playoff. It isn't that difficult. If you are worried about the bowls ($), you rotate first and second round games at various bowl less-than bowl venues, then kick it up a notch in the quarters, then rotate the same batch that currently gets the semis and the final.

No one gives a shit about New Year's day games, other than those specific fan bases. Imagine how much more interest ($) would be generated if those games where the quarterfinals (elite 8) on the way to the truly big games a week later.

I see that FSU got Willie Taggart from Oregon to replace Jimbo Fisher.

If you didn't know who they were and you heard those two names, I bet you'd think a delta blues band was taking the stage.