Re: 2018 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:34 pm
someone check on Shirley....
I can't believe what I just saw.
I can't believe what I just saw.
It's the sixth version of The Swamp. What could possibly go wrong?
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I’d have been hammered by halftime. If I thought they had a chance of coming back, I’d have dismissed it and drank less but still drank.degenerasian wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:36 pm This is the upset Twitter was made for. We have...
- The 16 seed with an acronym as its name, leading to many puns and memes
- The team mascot being a dog, so more puns and memes
- Tony Bennett is the losing coach, so even more puns and memes
- The guy running UMBC's Twitter must be drunk, and it's amazing
They looked like a beaten team early. Absolutely shocking performance.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:48 pm UVa just fucking lost the plot in the second half. I mean, earlier, sure, but not so much that in the first half you could see them using their athletic prowess to overpower.
But that second half was borderline embarrassing for UVa. Brutal.
I think they have a little chutzpah left over from their AEC run. I believe they had lost to Vermont 23 straight times (it may be 33) and beat them on a 40 ft three....so playing for broke just like Vermont did when they beat Syracuse 15+ years ago.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:31 pm I do feel bad for Dave. It fucking sucks to run into a random buzzsaw. I don't know if UMBC = George Mason. But that team was insane in term of its FG percentage and NO ONE could've stopped them.
Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:31 pm I do feel bad for Dave. It fucking sucks to run into a random buzzsaw. I don't know if UMBC = George Mason. But that team was insane in term of its FG percentage and NO ONE could've stopped them.
But the history involved here... Again, no offense, but this is amazing to watch. And to have a little local flavor adds to the experience.
Hmm. I see that applied in some cases, such as #4 seed Gonzaga going only 400 miles. But, #4 seed Wichita State traveled 1,300 miles. #4 seed Arizona traveled 1,000 miles.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:27 pm And, (way upthread), yes, the tournament tries to "protect" the top four seeds in each regional by keeping them close to home. Frankly, there should have been a way to get both Michigan State and Michigan to play in Detroit.
Obviously UMBC shot really well in the second half, but the ultra slow-paced style of play UVA employs (dead last in tempo, per KenPom) is ideal for creating the conditions for surprising upsets in a single elimination format. Any team can and will have random hot stretches, but the more possessions in a game, the more likely that the better team will emerge on top. Also, a fast paced game would generally favor the deeper and more athletic team which, one would think would always be the 1-seed in a 1/16 matchup. Basically, as I saw pointed out by an NBA writer on Twitter last night, UVA plays, stylistically, like a 16 seed should. That surely helps them vs. teams like UNC and Duke but isn't great when you face a UMBC team that gets in the zone for a half.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:31 pm I do feel bad for Dave. It fucking sucks to run into a random buzzsaw. I don't know if UMBC = George Mason. But that team was insane in term of its FG percentage and NO ONE could've stopped them.
True. And I guess I’m not a typical college basketball fan but every time I’ve had tourney tickets I’ve watched both games of my session. Granted, half he time my team was one of the game but twice I went to Rupp when it was here and uk had to be elsewhere. But apples and oranges for sand Diego v Lexington on college basketball interest
Well, I did say they try to and they protect the higher seeds first. They also have to do more important things like keep conference matchups from not being possible until the Elite Eight unless the conference gets nine teams in, in which case, they keep potential matchups limited to the Sweet Sixteen.sancarlos wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:07 amHmm. I see that applied in some cases, such as #4 seed Gonzaga going only 400 miles. But, #4 seed Wichita State traveled 1,300 miles. #4 seed Arizona traveled 1,000 miles.DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:27 pm And, (way upthread), yes, the tournament tries to "protect" the top four seeds in each regional by keeping them close to home. Frankly, there should have been a way to get both Michigan State and Michigan to play in Detroit.
But, enough on that. I really hope Shirley is ok. I’d be devastated if I was in his shoes.
It seems to me rather one dimensional of Bennett to be essentially producing an offense capable of executing one style of play, because as you mentioned: the reason you want to get out there and run v inferior opponents is because they’re never deep enough, and probably don’t have the legs to match at the start anyway.Joe K wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:43 amObviously UMBC shot really well in the second half, but the ultra slow-paced style of play UVA employs (dead last in tempo, per KenPom) is ideal for creating the conditions for surprising upsets in a single elimination format. Any team can and will have random hot stretches, but the more possessions in a game, the more likely that the better team will emerge on top. Also, a fast paced game would generally favor the deeper and more athletic team which, one would think would always be the 1-seed in a 1/16 matchup. Basically, as I saw pointed out by an NBA writer on Twitter last night, UVA plays, stylistically, like a 16 seed should. That surely helps them vs. teams like UNC and Duke but isn't great when you face a UMBC team that gets in the zone for a half.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:31 pm I do feel bad for Dave. It fucking sucks to run into a random buzzsaw. I don't know if UMBC = George Mason. But that team was insane in term of its FG percentage and NO ONE could've stopped them.
Yup. I don’t think Roy Williams is a great tactician by any stretch but his teams are usually tough outs in the tourney because they consistently push the pace and few teams have the horses to keep up with UNC talent for 40 minutes of up-tempo basketball.EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:42 amIt seems to me rather one dimensional of Bennett to be essentially producing an offense capable of executing one style of play, because as you mentioned: the reason you want to get out there and run v inferior opponents is because they’re never deep enough, and probably don’t have the legs to match at the start anyway.Joe K wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:43 amObviously UMBC shot really well in the second half, but the ultra slow-paced style of play UVA employs (dead last in tempo, per KenPom) is ideal for creating the conditions for surprising upsets in a single elimination format. Any team can and will have random hot stretches, but the more possessions in a game, the more likely that the better team will emerge on top. Also, a fast paced game would generally favor the deeper and more athletic team which, one would think would always be the 1-seed in a 1/16 matchup. Basically, as I saw pointed out by an NBA writer on Twitter last night, UVA plays, stylistically, like a 16 seed should. That surely helps them vs. teams like UNC and Duke but isn't great when you face a UMBC team that gets in the zone for a half.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:31 pm I do feel bad for Dave. It fucking sucks to run into a random buzzsaw. I don't know if UMBC = George Mason. But that team was insane in term of its FG percentage and NO ONE could've stopped them.
It’s what made Calhoun’s UConn teams so tough to play, too. Well, that and they always seemed to have the best guard on the floor.Joe K wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:57 amYup. I don’t think Roy Williams is a great tactician by any stretch but his teams are usually tough outs in the tourney because they consistently push the pace and few teams have the horses to keep up with UNC talent for 40 minutes of up-tempo basketball.EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:42 amIt seems to me rather one dimensional of Bennett to be essentially producing an offense capable of executing one style of play, because as you mentioned: the reason you want to get out there and run v inferior opponents is because they’re never deep enough, and probably don’t have the legs to match at the start anyway.Joe K wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:43 amObviously UMBC shot really well in the second half, but the ultra slow-paced style of play UVA employs (dead last in tempo, per KenPom) is ideal for creating the conditions for surprising upsets in a single elimination format. Any team can and will have random hot stretches, but the more possessions in a game, the more likely that the better team will emerge on top. Also, a fast paced game would generally favor the deeper and more athletic team which, one would think would always be the 1-seed in a 1/16 matchup. Basically, as I saw pointed out by an NBA writer on Twitter last night, UVA plays, stylistically, like a 16 seed should. That surely helps them vs. teams like UNC and Duke but isn't great when you face a UMBC team that gets in the zone for a half.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:31 pm I do feel bad for Dave. It fucking sucks to run into a random buzzsaw. I don't know if UMBC = George Mason. But that team was insane in term of its FG percentage and NO ONE could've stopped them.
The other sideA bettor at Las Vegas sportsbook operator CG Technology on Friday placed a $20,000 money-line parlay on three heavy favorites in the NCAA tournament for a chance to win a net $870.
The bet: North Carolina, Purdue and ... Virginia.
You’re sort of missing my point. As I mentioned in my post, UVA’s slow paced style is a very good strategy against more athletic ACC teams like Duke and UNC. But playing that way makes it more likely to lose to a less talented underdog like UMBC. It’s the inverse to what drives me nuts about Ty Lue’s coaching against the Super Warriors. It’s a good strategy for the Cavs to play fast against their Eastern Conference opponents, but it’s suicidal to try to beat the Warriors in a game played in the 120s.HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:28 am Carolina ain't the example. Sure if you get the pick of recruits you can run people off the floor. But it's a much tougher call if you generally have less or equal talent and athletism vs your league. Huggins generally gets it done, even then it's still more defense oriented than Roy and those results are good not necessarily great. Shaka smart? But yeah. You need to do both or at least have it in the bag.