sancarlos wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:01 am
I’d note that fans in suites usually include several casually-interested folks who came solely because it was event and free to them. So, not representative of the average fan in the building.
Absolutely, I've been in this suite a LOT over the years. Typically the inside area is full of wives who literally don't care there's a game going on. Which is totally fine, it's a quasi-ladies night and the fellas don't have a guilt trip to come home to. (Not a thing for me, luckily, but we don't play the "I hate my spouse" game like a lot of these folks do.. that's a story for another time.)
Most of these were poseurs wearing caps gear, man. It was surreal.
But, to your point, the two biggest offenders were guys in suits (K street-bros) that came in wasted and just got more obnoxious as the game went on. One of them was sitting on a bar stool that's in the spectating area, turning his back to the game, and shouting about the draft.
I wanted to punch him in his larynx.
You can lead a horse to fish, but you can't fish out a horse.
I hope Kane doesn't get suspended for the cross-check. I said to Brian when it happened that I thought the game misconduct was harsh...give him five and let's move on. Seeing more angles today, it looked worse than what I picked up live but i'm not sure they kick him out if the score was 2-1. Maybe it's growing up on the Bos-Har and Mtl-Que playoffs but I like to see some chippyness in the postseason even if it's against my team.
It's the second time Jones got pulled in Vegas. If he has a poor game Saturday, I suspect San Jose will have a goalie with a confidence crisis.
"Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back." -Al Swearengen
With the benefit of the replay, the game misconduct was absolutely warranted but I'd be surprised if he's suspended as well. I think the only thing that saves him is he sounded legitimately contrite in the media after the game.
That said, if the league is serious about legislating hits to the head out of the game, automatically suspending guys for intentionally striking someone in the head (regardless of the context/situation) is eventually going to have to happen. If it were a Vegas guy on the delivering end of that hit I wouldn't be angry if he got suspended for a game (I'd be angry at the player, not the DOPS decision).
So I’m watching the Lightning play the Bruins in game 1 of their second round series (my brother’s in town, and he’s a huge Lightning fan).
Couple of thoughts...The Lightning are not physical. At all. The lineman on the Bruins - Brad Marchand? His demeanor and instigative actions beg for retaliation...Not the retaliation he seeks (the ones that’ll draw a whistle when you retaliate immediately)...But rather, he needs to be sent through the boards routinely. They just don’t play that way however. Meh.
Also, the goalie for the Bruins broke his skate in the 2nd period. He started in on the refs while trying to defend the goal on one leg. Predictably, he allowed a goal soon after. He went nuts on the refs complaining he was interfered with to cause his blade to break off (hint: he wasn’t). When the refs weren’t having any of it, he proceeded to throw the blade (hard) within the vicinity of a couple of refs who began to skate away. How’s that not draw Bettman’s eye? It’d appear to me any of those refs would’ve had grounds to eject him from the game at that point.
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:45 pm
So I’m watching the Lightning play the Bruins in game 1 of their second round series (my brother’s in town, and he’s a huge Lightning fan).
Couple of thoughts...The Lightning are not physical. At all. The lineman on the Bruins - Brad Marchand? His demeanor and instigative actions beg for retaliation...Not the retaliation he seeks (the ones that’ll draw a whistle when you retaliate immediately)...But rather, he needs to be sent through the boards routinely. They just don’t play that way however. Meh.
Also, the goalie for the Bruins broke his skate in the 2nd period. He started in on the refs while trying to defend the goal on one leg. Predictably, he allowed a goal soon after. He went nuts on the refs complaining he was interfered with to cause his blade to break off (hint: he wasn’t). When the refs weren’t having any of it, he proceeded to throw the blade (hard) within the vicinity of a couple of refs who began to skate away. How’s that not draw Bettman’s eye? It’d appear to me any of those refs would’ve had grounds to eject him from the game at that point.
A) Yes, you've correctly assessed the nature of Brad Marchand. A sneaky, nasty (albeit talented) weasel of a human being.
B) I think the referee and league lets a guy blow off steam like Rask did, after an equipment blowout causes him to give up a goal. Now, if he had actually hit the ref with the skate blade, maybe they would have penalized him.
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:45 pm
So I’m watching the Lightning play the Bruins in game 1 of their second round series (my brother’s in town, and he’s a huge Lightning fan).
Couple of thoughts...The Lightning are not physical. At all. The lineman on the Bruins - Brad Marchand? His demeanor and instigative actions beg for retaliation...Not the retaliation he seeks (the ones that’ll draw a whistle when you retaliate immediately)...But rather, he needs to be sent through the boards routinely. They just don’t play that way however. Meh.
Also, the goalie for the Bruins broke his skate in the 2nd period. He started in on the refs while trying to defend the goal on one leg. Predictably, he allowed a goal soon after. He went nuts on the refs complaining he was interfered with to cause his blade to break off (hint: he wasn’t). When the refs weren’t having any of it, he proceeded to throw the blade (hard) within the vicinity of a couple of refs who began to skate away. How’s that not draw Bettman’s eye? It’d appear to me any of those refs would’ve had grounds to eject him from the game at that point.
A) Yes, you've correctly assessed the nature of Brad Marchand. A sneaky, nasty (albeit talented) weasel of a human being.
B) I think the referee and league lets a guy blow off steam like Rask did, after an equipment blowout causes him to give up a goal. Now, if he had actually hit the ref with the skate blade, maybe they would have penalized him.
Except Rask had no beef at all (which was pointed out repeatedly): they do not stop play when your equipment fails and you’re in the midst of defending your goal. Not sure his throwing a kunai is just blowing off steam, but I get what you’re saying.
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:45 pm
So I’m watching the Lightning play the Bruins in game 1 of their second round series (my brother’s in town, and he’s a huge Lightning fan).
Couple of thoughts...The Lightning are not physical. At all. The lineman on the Bruins - Brad Marchand? His demeanor and instigative actions beg for retaliation...Not the retaliation he seeks (the ones that’ll draw a whistle when you retaliate immediately)...But rather, he needs to be sent through the boards routinely. They just don’t play that way however. Meh.
Also, the goalie for the Bruins broke his skate in the 2nd period. He started in on the refs while trying to defend the goal on one leg. Predictably, he allowed a goal soon after. He went nuts on the refs complaining he was interfered with to cause his blade to break off (hint: he wasn’t). When the refs weren’t having any of it, he proceeded to throw the blade (hard) within the vicinity of a couple of refs who began to skate away. How’s that not draw Bettman’s eye? It’d appear to me any of those refs would’ve had grounds to eject him from the game at that point.
A) Yes, you've correctly assessed the nature of Brad Marchand. A sneaky, nasty (albeit talented) weasel of a human being.
B) I think the referee and league lets a guy blow off steam like Rask did, after an equipment blowout causes him to give up a goal. Now, if he had actually hit the ref with the skate blade, maybe they would have penalized him.
Except Rask had no beef at all (which was pointed out repeatedly): they do not stop play when your equipment fails and you’re in the midst of defending your goal. Not sure his throwing a kunai is just blowing off steam, but I get what you’re saying.
I'm guessing that Rask did not understand the rule, and thought the referee had messed up by not stopping play as soon as he alerted him to the equipment problem. Doesn't excuse his tantrum, but perhaps does explain it.
Even if the Sharks luck their way to winning this game or this series it’s obvious they’re the inferior team. I didn’t think so before the series started though it’s obvious now.
brian wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:02 pm
Even if the Sharks luck their way to winning this game or this series it’s obvious they’re the inferior team. I didn’t think so before the series started though it’s obvious now.
The Sharks were clearly inferior in game one. Tonight, they’ve carried the majority of the play, had more scoring chances, and more shots on goal. Win or lose the Sharks have been the better team tonight. All the broadcasters have also said as much.
Perhaps I’m frustrated this afternoon, but as someone who spent a decent chunk of the last round listening to the Flyers radio team, the Caps announcers are almost unlistenable homers.
rass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:41 pm
Perhaps I’m frustrated this afternoon, but as someone who spent a decent chunk of the last round listening to the Flyers radio team, the Caps announcers are almost unlistenable homers.
How are you not listening to the national feed? They were calling Kuznetsov a diver, saying there was an uncalled knee on knee, and calling the controversial goal a goal before it ever got reviewed.
I’m not saying Toronto got the call right but it was VERY tricky. NBCsucks balls as a Caps fan.
You can lead a horse to fish, but you can't fish out a horse.
For what it’s worth I think the NBC announcing teams all just suck regardless of what team you root for. They misidentified players (on both teams) almost a dozen times in VGK/SJ game one.
rass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:41 pm
Perhaps I’m frustrated this afternoon, but as someone who spent a decent chunk of the last round listening to the Flyers radio team, the Caps announcers are almost unlistenable homers.
How are you not listening to the national feed? They were calling Kuznetsov a diver, saying there was an uncalled knee on knee, and calling the controversial goal a goal before it ever got reviewed.
I’m not saying Toronto got the call right but it was VERY tricky. NBCsucks balls as a Caps fan.
SiriusXM's NHL channel had the Flyers broadcast every time I checked in while in the car during the first round and had the Caps crew yesterday. That was just in time for the hit on Dumoulin. They mentioned once that Wilson might have made contact with his head, and then never brought it up again and just kept repeating that Ovechkin's contact was clean, and laughed at how pissed Sullivan was that there was no penalty from the play since the Pens are used to having their way with the officials.
And BTW Wilson absolutely tagged him in the head with his shoulder, but I'm SURE it was an accident.
Well, how about listening to the national feed, where McGuire insisted Ovechkin hit him "with the shaft of this stick." And then when he had to backtrack on that, they insisted (at least 3 times) that Wilson hit him with his elbow.
No, he fucking didn't. He absolutely hit him with his shoulder, and I'm not going to run the excuse train, but saying he did anything like raise his elbow up is bullshit.
If you had to listen to the Caps radio guys.. yeah, they don't even try to pretend they are objective. The play-by-play guy used to be down at Hershey. I can't imagine listening to the home team radio guys anywhere would be much different.
You can lead a horse to fish, but you can't fish out a horse.
I'm on record and I'll stick with it: Any hit to the head like that should be a penalty and should get a hearing, at least. It's not how the rules are currently written and it needs to change.
You can lead a horse to fish, but you can't fish out a horse.
It was definitely a weird play and could have been completely not his fault, but he very clearly raised his shoulder when he saw the contact coming. Trying to hurt people is just in his asshole DNA.
Johnnie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:13 pmOh shit, you just reminded me about toilet paper.
Dumo is apparently at practice and skating with no restrictions* so if you add that to his placement of his head in the path of Wilson's shoulder he's solely responsible for Wilson not being disciplined.
*correction, perusing farther back in time I see that he's wearing a "no contact" jersey
If nothing else, I love this team and this season because it somehow resulted in an opposing fanbase booing the word "night" in the American national anthem. I didn't not see that coming.
