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Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:44 am
by Nonlinear FC
A_B wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:08 am Fascinated to see how terrible the Belgium-England game is.

Also, had no idea that Barbados once had to defend both goals in a qualification match.
Yeah, the desire to avoid Brazil could make for a weird ass game.

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:33 am
by Rex
what happened to Hamez?

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:39 am
by Nonlinear FC
Hahmez came on as a sub against Japan.

Not sure why

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:49 am
by Sabo
The Japanese keeper made the save of the tournament around the 32nd minute.

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:20 am
by degenerasian
Japan are down 1-0. They played the most ridiculous lineup today, making 6 changes claiming fatigue.

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:37 am
by Nonlinear FC
Nonlinear FC wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:39 am Hahmez came on as a sub against Japan.

Not sure why

Sorry, I didn't realize he came off early in the first.

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:38 am
by degenerasian
Colombia up 1-0 on Senegal. As it stands, Japan would go through on yellow cards over Senegal 3 to 4.

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:41 am
by Nonlinear FC
Trying to figure out a tiebreak between Japan and Senegal...

I think we're down to fair play at that point??

eta - Oh, thanks degen...

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:44 am
by degenerasian
I counted wrong, Japan has 4 yellow cards to Senegal's 6.

for each game, yellow cards are -1, two yellows is -3. straight red is -4.

The only fitting way for this group to end is for Japan to start wasting time, thinking they're safe, only to then get booked.

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:46 am
by Nonlinear FC
degenerasian wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:38 am Colombia up 1-0 on Senegal. As it stands, Japan would go through on yellow cards over Senegal 3 to 4.
I have Japan with 4 yellows. They picked one up today.

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:54 am
by degenerasian
i'm not sure which is the better tiebreaker, fair play or flipping a coin

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:56 am
by rass
degenerasian wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:54 am i'm not sure which is the better tiebreaker, fair play or flipping a coin
Japan might have been compelled to not just be happy to fart away the last 10 minutes or so of a loss if they knew that they only had a 50/50 chance of going through.

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:00 am
by Nonlinear FC
Yeah, on the other hand, seeing yellow cards have an actual impact on going through is somewhat laudable.

That said, I would think goals allowed would be a metric put above Fair Play.

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:03 am
by degenerasian
Nonlinear FC wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:00 am Yeah, on the other hand, seeing yellow cards have an actual impact on going through is somewhat laudable.

That said, I would think goals allowed would be a metric put above Fair Play.
that would be impossible,
after goal difference one has to choose either goals for or goals allowed to be a tiebreaker, not both.

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:06 am
by Nonlinear FC
degenerasian wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:03 am
Nonlinear FC wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:00 am Yeah, on the other hand, seeing yellow cards have an actual impact on going through is somewhat laudable.

That said, I would think goals allowed would be a metric put above Fair Play.
that would be impossible,
after goal difference one has to choose either goals for or goals allowed to be a tiebreaker, not both.
yeah, I was told there would be no math at this debate

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:09 am
by Rex
Well if goal difference is the same and goals for are the same, then goals allowed will also be the same.

Maybe have a provisional PK shootout after draws in the group stage to serve as an additional tiebreaker. Or just accept this as part of life's rich pageant.

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:11 am
by degenerasian
Rex wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:09 am Well if goal difference is the same and goals for are the same, then goals allowed will also be the same.

Maybe have a provisional PK shootout after draws in the group stage to serve as an additional tiebreaker. Or just accept this as part of life's rich pageant.
if Senegal and Japan had played each other today then there might have been a provision that if the game is drawn it goes straight to penalties. Euro has done this before.

But with the teams in different cities. it's not possible.

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:07 pm
by degenerasian
Come on Panama!
Bookmakers BetVictor will be praying Poland and Panama fail to score on Thursday as they bid to avoid a huge bashing to the tune of £663,000.
head of the tournament, punters piled in on a huge 225/1 shot that every team would score twice in the group stages, and only Poland and Panama have failed to do so thus far.
They both play on Thursday, against Japan and Tunisia respectively, and if they manage to score then it will be the first time in the World Cup's history that all teams have scored twice.

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:34 pm
by A_B
They should just change the score to yellow cards until someone scores.

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:22 pm
by degenerasian

Re: World Cup 2018 --Pre and Group Stages

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:41 pm
by Pruitt
Oh England...

That was a fuck up of epic proportions. I mean, it's sweet that every player got on the field in the group stage, but do they really want to play Colombia that badly?