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mister d wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:57 am Panarin has already committed to NYR.

brian wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:16 am

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:57 am Panarin has already committed to NYR.

Probably. And Karlsson will probably re-sign for 8 years after the trade deadline in SJS, but money can change things pretty quickly so those guys might want to listen to offers where they'll save $10M in taxes over the life of the deal.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:40 am

brian wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:16 am

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:57 am Panarin has already committed to NYR.

Probably. And Karlsson will probably re-sign for 8 years after the trade deadline in SJS, but money can change things pretty quickly so those guys might want to listen to offers where they'll save $10M in taxes over the life of the deal.

I think Erik Karlsson and the Sharks already have a handshake deal in place that they will formalize when he can sign a max deal.

brian wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:59 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:40 am

brian wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:16 am

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:57 am Panarin has already committed to NYR.

Probably. And Karlsson will probably re-sign for 8 years after the trade deadline in SJS, but money can change things pretty quickly so those guys might want to listen to offers where they'll save $10M in taxes over the life of the deal.

I think Erik Karlsson and the Sharks already have a handshake deal in place that they will formalize when he can sign a max deal.

I basically said as much.

But at this point, he'd be doing himself a disservice to not go to FA and at least listen to all of the offers from other teams like Tavares did.

The two main reasons to sign a long extension early is comfort with a team/franchise and security, especially related to injury. He'll only be getting about 30 to 40 games of security for the latter and while I'm sure he likes it fine in San Jose and the long-term prospects for winning are good there as well, it's hard to imagine he's already all-in on the former yet either.

An 8-year deal in San Jose at $12M AAV is worth about $4-5M less total than a 7-year deal in Vegas or Tampa at $11M AAV. Plus he's still "only" in his age 36 season after that point. If he and his agent are smart, they'll just let it go to July 1 and see what happens. For what it's worth, I would say the same thing if it had been Vegas that swung the deal without a long-term extension being involved. If he were playing on Vegas right now without the extension, he'd still be foolish not to get an offer from all 31 teams on July 1 if he's not going to get hardly any security from a devastating injury outside of one that happens during the playoffs.

brian wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:34 pm I don't know the answer to this, so it's an actual question not a rhetorical question, but couldn't SJ have done a sign-and-trade with him and Ottawa to get the 8-year term without having to wait until after the trade deadline.

degenerasian wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:49 pm I don't believe anyone has ever done a sign and trade in the NHL cap-era.

What would be the advantage other than the extra year? For example, could the Islanders have signed Tavares to 8 years then trade him to Toronto? What would they get? a draft pick? The way team manipulate contracts, they're front loaded anyways.

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rass wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:54 amThough I really don’t know where Oshie thought he was going there.

rass wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:52 am Yes. But Malkin didn’t even change direction. And absolutely Malkin knew he was coming and what his slight movement was going to do. It was just odd because you’re used to seeing that when guys are going different directions and one clips the other as they pass.