The Swamp

Oh shit, the one I thought was a decent call was not. Clearly shuffling feet. I don't even think the baseline was worth calling.

Wasnt like the kid rose to dunk and the guy slid under him. Hes just lame as hell and didnt bother trying to challenge the shot. NBA refs call that stuff a million times better than the college guys.

Giff wrote: ↑Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:40 am Oh shit, the one I thought was a decent call was not. Clearly shuffling feet. I don't even think the baseline was worth calling.

I think the offensive guy stuck his arm out pretty good, but he was not in what I would call a good defensive position.

I should mention i frigging HATE wisconsin and they get away with that shit all the time and have forever. The Final Four game in 2015 featured some of the most ridiculous calls, and i generally try to give the refs the benefit of the doubt.

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:56 am Wasnt like the kid rose to dunk and the guy slid under him. Hes just lame as hell and didnt bother trying to challenge the shot. NBA refs call that stuff a million times better than the college guys.

Yep. College refs LOVE calling offensive fouls, especially against players and teams they perceive as more athletic. And AB is right about that 2015 Wisconsin team. They got a ridiculously favorable whistle all season long. Coach K basically won the title game by chewing out the refs going into halftime and pointing out that they weren’t calling any fouls on Wisconsin. When they actually started (correctly) calling fouls on Wisconsin in the second half, Duke took the game over.

What you guys haven't mentioned is that he is a scrappy white dude. They always get in position to take the charge.

Joe K wrote: ↑Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:07 am

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:56 am Wasnt like the kid rose to dunk and the guy slid under him. Hes just lame as hell and didnt bother trying to challenge the shot. NBA refs call that stuff a million times better than the college guys.

Yep. College refs LOVE calling offensive fouls, especially against players and teams they perceive as more athletic. And AB is right about that 2015 Wisconsin team. They got a ridiculously favorable whistle all season long. Coach K basically won the title game by chewing out the refs going into halftime and pointing out that they weren’t calling any fouls on Wisconsin. When they actually started (correctly) calling fouls on Wisconsin in the second half, Duke took the game over.

They were averaging like 9 fouls a game or something stupid.

A_B wrote: ↑Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:11 am

Joe K wrote: ↑Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:07 am

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:56 am Wasnt like the kid rose to dunk and the guy slid under him. Hes just lame as hell and didnt bother trying to challenge the shot. NBA refs call that stuff a million times better than the college guys.

Yep. College refs LOVE calling offensive fouls, especially against players and teams they perceive as more athletic. And AB is right about that 2015 Wisconsin team. They got a ridiculously favorable whistle all season long. Coach K basically won the title game by chewing out the refs going into halftime and pointing out that they weren’t calling any fouls on Wisconsin. When they actually started (correctly) calling fouls on Wisconsin in the second half, Duke took the game over.

They were averaging like 9 fouls a game or something stupid.

I looked it up and Wisconsin got called for only 2 fouls in the first half of that title game, compared to 7 for Duke. They got called for 11 (non-intentional) fouls in the second half, compared to 6 for Duke.

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:10 am MI looked rather sleepy in its games leading up to last night. They proceeded to destroy Villanova on the road 73-46.

73-46.

And now a shellacking of a pretty good UNC team.

84-67.

They are so much better on D than even last year's very good defensive team. And they can flex their set-up almost on the fly from big to 5 out wide, so they can play with pretty much anyone.

So, MI is now a basketball school.

I am here for the Michigan/Duke final four or championship game.

Apparently ljam is a huge seton hall fan, you guys.

I gave them almost 100 grand in tuition for college and law school, so yeah.

Well I hope they don’t lose again since you will be receiving some screenshots.

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:19 pm I have them almost 100 grand in tuition for college and law school, so yeah.

Did I know this?

mister d wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:43 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:19 pm I have them almost 100 grand in tuition for college and law school, so yeah.

Did I know this?

I sure didn’t til I got a Facebook message taunting me!

That's pretty funny.

I say this not to brag, but out of amazement. Since the start of last season, UVA is 40-3. It's truly mind boggling.

Shirley wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:00 pm I say this not to brag, but out of amazement. Since the start of last season, UVA is 40-3. It's truly mind boggling.

But that's not people will remember about the team.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:47 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:00 pm I say this not to brag, but out of amazement. Since the start of last season, UVA is 40-3. It's truly mind boggling.

But that's not people will remember about the team.

If the only thing you know about Virginia basketball is the UMBC loss, your opinion couldn't matter less to me.

Shirley wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:38 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:47 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:00 pm I say this not to brag, but out of amazement. Since the start of last season, UVA is 40-3. It's truly mind boggling.

But that's not people will remember about the team.

If the only thing you know about Virginia basketball is the UMBC loss, your opinion couldn't matter less to me.

They’ve obviously been super good for a while. But history doesn’t remember super good as much as it does outlier underdog stories.

A_B wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:52 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:38 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:47 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:00 pm I say this not to brag, but out of amazement. Since the start of last season, UVA is 40-3. It's truly mind boggling.

But that's not people will remember about the team.

If the only thing you know about Virginia basketball is the UMBC loss, your opinion couldn't matter less to me.

They’ve obviously been super good for a while. But history doesn’t remember super good as much as it does outlier underdog stories.

Oh sure, I know that to most folks, the UMBC loss will be something they remember for a long time. I think most actual college basketball fans also know that UVA has been a top ten team for 5-6 years in a row now. As someone who's followed this program for nearly 40 years, that last part matters a LOT more to me. And I'm still not used to it, which is great.

And if they win a title or even get to a few final fours in the next ten years or so, the UMBC loss becomes a funny bit of trivia more than the definition of a program that some people seem to think it is. Same if/when another #1 seed manages to lose, especially if it's a more traditional power that's already won titles.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:47 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:00 pm I say this not to brag, but out of amazement. Since the start of last season, UVA is 40-3. It's truly mind boggling.

But that's not people will remember about the team.

You always bring up UMBC. Theres always twenty five years of terrible play between Ralph Sampson and Malcolm Brogdon.

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:09 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:47 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:00 pm I say this not to brag, but out of amazement. Since the start of last season, UVA is 40-3. It's truly mind boggling.

But that's not people will remember about the team.

You always bring up UMBC. Theres always twenty five years of terrible play between Ralph Sampson and Malcolm Brogdon.

Actually, I don’t recall ever ribbing Shirley about that.

I did it plenty if it matters.

Thought this bump was going to be about Quade Green transferring.

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:49 pm Thought this bump was going to be about Quade Green transferring.

A shitty thing about Calipari’s recruiting system is that players like Green, who would be really good if given time to develop, get pushed aside in favor of the latest highly touted frosh. Ironically, the one time he didn’t do this, it cost him the 2015 title. The Harrisons had no business starting over Booker and Ulis.

Rumor is he's going to seek a waiver which would certainly bode well for a certain local looooooongshot.

I think La Salle is going to be it. He's a good player, and with starter minutes will put up good numbers. And was universally seen as the best off court dude on the team, i think.

Things have started off rocky under Howard but getting a kid like Green with the new coach and the potential facility upgrade could be a program changer. Excited for him to pick fucking Seton Hall so I can run into him in town every few weeks and be reminded of this.

I had forgotten just how useless Clark Kellogg is at the job of color commentator.

If you make another team score in their own basket you should automatically win the national championship.

Sorry about quade.

The Pac 12 is just straight garbage.

A_B wrote: ↑Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:09 pmSorry about quade.

Thank you, AB. Not everyone can handle the challenge of Atlantic 10 basketball.

brian wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:27 am The Pac 12 is just straight garbage.

Steve Alford fired today. He should have stayed at New Mexico. You are never gonna reach the levels UCLA wants you to reach, you make a sweet 16 at New Mexico and you're a god forever.

No one is REALLY paying attention to college basketball this time of year. So the fact that MI is ranked #2 in the country behind Duke right now is a pretty low-key item. The fact that they are in their annual "doldrums of December" where they don't play anyone of note and they only play one game a week contributes to this being so under the radar.

Here's a rather controversial thing for a Wolverine homer to say: They are seriously over-rated right now. I know they are in a weird part of their schedule, but they have played 3 extremely mediocre games in a row now. The last game against Binghamton, despite the double digit margin of victory, was a 3 point game at the 12 minute to go mark.

They are really struggling to hit shots and they have trouble with zone D when this happens.

I'm not saying they aren't a very good team. And they may snap out of it once they get back into playing truly competitive conference games. But their record and ranking is not reflected by their play the last run of games. Not even close.

Rush2112 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:01 pmSteve Alford fired today. He should have stayed at New Mexico. You are never gonna reach the levels UCLA wants you to reach, you make a sweet 16 at New Mexico and you're a god forever.

Can vouch for this being very not true.

I'm sure I'm fantastically late to the party, but when did FOX start using the old NBA on NBC music for college basketball? Surely there is some struggling talented musician out there that can come up with a hip 10 sec jingle instead of harkening back to a time when Charles Barkley was dominant.

Rams Fanny wrote: ↑Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:11 pm I'm sure I'm fantastically late to the party, but when did FOX start using the old NBA on NBC music for college basketball? Surely there is some struggling talented musician out there that can come up with a hip 10 sec jingle instead of harkening back to a time when Charles Barkley was dominant.

I know you're not referring to the John Tesh-penned masterpiece?

Azuibuke out for the year for Kansas. Same injury he had as a freshman but to the other hand.

Fuck Duke.