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I'm assuming it's something like this (just without the ugly 1940s handle) and the screw is in a similar location, and you can't get the handle off to get to it?



I think my main issue is that I can't figure exactly where the break is that would prevent you from accessing the screw.
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I don't think I can pry it off without risking all the shit behind the wall. The normal way to disassemble would be unscrew the handle, unscrew the little screw behind the handle to pull off another piece and then get at the plate. Its definitely not the way I thought it was constructed going in.

Just saw your pic ... the drilling would be coming in through the side, not front to back.
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A_B wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:57 am
Gunpowder wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:53 am I still don't quite understand what is going on here, though.

Can you pry it off around the base of the metal plate (where it meets the shower wall and just pull that part off?
I am lost on the details as well. I totally misunderstood at first, thought I did after, but now still don't know.
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mister d wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:02 am I don't think I can pry it off without risking all the shit behind the wall. The normal way to disassemble would be unscrew the handle, unscrew the little screw behind the handle to pull off another piece and then get at the plate. Its definitely not the way I thought it was constructed going in.

Just saw your pic ... the drilling would be coming in through the side, not front to back.
Ok, I got it now.

https://manualzz.com/doc/27408517/insta ... ier-faucet

Assuming your plan is to just drill out the part where the handle broke off, which seems like the best idea if you can't cut or break that whole part off entirely.

You may also be able to use JB Weld to glue it back on and then try to twist the handle off a day later.
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Oooo, I like that last part as a plan if I fuck up trying to drill it out.
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JB Weld is sick. I'll never use shitty gorilla glue again. Any time I break something I can usually just glue it back together now. Well, epoxy it back together. Whatever.

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Is that one of those epoxy deals where you have to mix 2 things together to activate the stickiness?
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P.D.X. wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:43 am Is that one of those epoxy deals where you have to mix 2 things together to activate the stickiness?
Yep - you can see the mixing in first image on the block of wood.

Sometimes if it doesn't have to be great I'll use Loctite because it's easier but this stuff is generally the best hold by far.


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So today I noticed that there's something wrong with the AC in the house. It's pretty warm today (low 80s, sunny) so it got sort of warm upstairs. The ecobee app on my phone said the AC was set to come on at 73 degrees, and the temp was 75. Actually, it showed that the AC was running. So I went downstairs and realized that yes, the AC was running. I checked a vent, and no air was blowing out of it. I went downstairs to the utility closet/location and realized the fan / blower apparatus wasn't running. Just sort of making a small noise. I went back upstairs to reset the circuit breakers, and no dice. So I raised the temp on the thermostat beyond what the temperature will reach (so the outside unit doesn't come on).

I noticed there's a switch (like a switch on a wall) on the unit downstairs, but I've no idea what that does.

Any advice before I call a repair man?
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That switch is most likely an emergency power off switch. There should be a switch like that on all furnaces/blowers.

Based on what you described, the furnace blower motor died. Considering that’s the mechanism that runs the most for HVAC systems, it’s a common failure point. Recommend calling an HVAC company to take a look and replace it if needed.
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Sabo wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:48 pm That switch is most likely an emergency power off switch. There should be a switch like that on all furnaces/blowers.

Based on what you described, the furnace blower motor died. Considering that’s the mechanism that runs the most for HVAC systems, it’s a common failure point. Recommend calling an HVAC company to take a look and replace it if needed.
I figured it was something like that. Come to think of it, if it were 60-65 degrees from now until December (stranger things have happened), I might not have realized the issue until we had our first cold snap. :idea:
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The water pressure has been getting steadily worse in our shower/bath (one faucet with a diverter) and I noticed that it’s been starting to drip. The entire thing contraption is a good 10+ years old so I do some googling and replacing the shower cartridge is a thing and seems painless.

I get a genuine Delta replacement at HD and after some bumps getting the old one out (doused it with WD40 and CLR) I got it all put back together and…

Just a dribble. I swear to fucking Jerloma that I’ve taken it apart and double-checked 3 times now and I did it right, and it’s the right part. Just tested turning the water on without it in place and the pressure looks good.

I don't think there is anything in the line to the faucet - if I somehow jarred something loose and clogged that wouldn’t the shower just be on?

So the cartridge itself? Should you be able to freely blow through one end of it, or should it not allow that. I removed the front that connects to the handle, so both sides are open. If I shake it the right way I hear something shift inside, and sometimes I can force air through one side and little, but not the other.

It’s a Delta RP46074 if that helps.

WTF? Do I eat another $60 and try another cartridge?
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wouldn't you be able to return the faulty cartridge if it was a cartridge issue? (Aka you wouldn't be out another $60 if you went that route)
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Brontoburglar wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:17 pm wouldn't you be able to return the faulty cartridge if it was a cartridge issue? (Aka you wouldn't be out another $60 if you went that route)
If I’m right, I think sure. But I’d have to bet on myself and buy a new one first because the old one got ruined during the removal process. Or leave the water off again while I go to HD, I guess.

If no one has experience putting lips to c…artridge I’ll probably risk it.
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rass wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:06 pm The water pressure has been getting steadily worse in our shower/bath (one faucet with a diverter) and I noticed that it’s been starting to drip. The entire thing contraption is a good 10+ years old so I do some googling and replacing the shower cartridge is a thing and seems painless.

I get a genuine Delta replacement at HD and after some bumps getting the old one out (doused it with WD40 and CLR) I got it all put back together and…

Just a dribble. I swear to fucking Jerloma that I’ve taken it apart and double-checked 3 times now and I did it right, and it’s the right part. Just tested turning the water on without it in place and the pressure looks good.

I don't think there is anything in the line to the faucet - if I somehow jarred something loose and clogged that wouldn’t the shower just be on?

So the cartridge itself? Should you be able to freely blow through one end of it, or should it not allow that. I removed the front that connects to the handle, so both sides are open. If I shake it the right way I hear something shift inside, and sometimes I can force air through one side and little, but not the other.

It’s a Delta RP46074 if that helps.

WTF? Do I eat another $60 and try another cartridge?
Was anything by chance screwed in too tightly?
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Read that just after I got back from HD $60+ lighter, and was very careful installing the new one to stop as soon as the one component (ring) that gets screwed on wouldn’t budge to the slightest of hand tightening. Still a dribble.

I’m clearly such a dumbass that I can’t even figure out what I’m doing wrong.
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Finally finished my deck railing project. Came out pretty good, considering I'm not really a handy type. Managed to not cut off any fingers, and only had to recut one piece of wood when I didn't get a measure right.
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rass wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:29 pm Read that just after I got back from HD $60+ lighter, and was very careful installing the new one to stop as soon as the one component (ring) that gets screwed on wouldn’t budge to the slightest of hand tightening. Still a dribble.

I’m clearly such a dumbass that I can’t even figure out what I’m doing wrong.
you're not somehow installing it backwards, right? I'm incredibly intrigued now
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That would take incredible dexterity.
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Deck looks great DiS. But the leaves are really piling up. A bit of an eyesore.

Brontoburglar wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:15 pm
rass wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:29 pm Read that just after I got back from HD $60+ lighter, and was very careful installing the new one to stop as soon as the one component (ring) that gets screwed on wouldn’t budge to the slightest of hand tightening. Still a dribble.

I’m clearly such a dumbass that I can’t even figure out what I’m doing wrong.
you're not somehow installing it backwards, right? I'm incredibly intrigued now
There is no backwards. I guess upside down could be a possibility, but seems the downside of that would be the hot water might turn on before the cold.

I've got the dishwasher running right now, and when that's done I guess I'm going to try to figure out how to get a pro to look.
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Trying to get one last cut in before snow starts, but I can't get the mower started. Push mower. Only a year old. It stalled after it started initially, but now the cord is really hard to pull. I followed youtube and I think it's hydrolocked. When I take out the spark plug the cod pulls fine.

Youtube tells me the oil should just spit out the spark plug hole. It doesn't. It's completely dry. I don't want to drag it over to the small engine guys. Anyone ever dealt with this before?
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rass wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:59 am Deck looks great DiS. But the leaves are really piling up. A bit of an eyesore.

Brontoburglar wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:15 pm
rass wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:29 pm Read that just after I got back from HD $60+ lighter, and was very careful installing the new one to stop as soon as the one component (ring) that gets screwed on wouldn’t budge to the slightest of hand tightening. Still a dribble.

I’m clearly such a dumbass that I can’t even figure out what I’m doing wrong.
you're not somehow installing it backwards, right? I'm incredibly intrigued now
There is no backwards. I guess upside down could be a possibility, but seems the downside of that would be the hot water might turn on before the cold.

I've got the dishwasher running right now, and when that's done I guess I'm going to try to figure out how to get a pro to look.
They're all different, but is there any kind of o-ring/gasket that gets seated that may be rotted or otherwise not in right? Not sure what the standard is for that.
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testuser2 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:40 am Trying to get one last cut in before snow starts, but I can't get the mower started. Push mower. Only a year old. It stalled after it started initially, but now the cord is really hard to pull. I followed youtube and I think it's hydrolocked. When I take out the spark plug the cod pulls fine.

Youtube tells me the oil should just spit out the spark plug hole. It doesn't. It's completely dry. I don't want to drag it over to the small engine guys. Anyone ever dealt with this before?
Hmm. No. I've had a bad carburetor that has to be cleaned out but that doesn't down exactly like what you're dealing with. And not to be an asshole, but there is gas in it right? Cause I have definitely made that stupid mistake before and kicked myself. Hopefully you're not a total doofus like me, though.
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A_B wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:57 am
rass wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:59 am Deck looks great DiS. But the leaves are really piling up. A bit of an eyesore.

Brontoburglar wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:15 pm
rass wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:29 pm Read that just after I got back from HD $60+ lighter, and was very careful installing the new one to stop as soon as the one component (ring) that gets screwed on wouldn’t budge to the slightest of hand tightening. Still a dribble.

I’m clearly such a dumbass that I can’t even figure out what I’m doing wrong.
you're not somehow installing it backwards, right? I'm incredibly intrigued now
There is no backwards. I guess upside down could be a possibility, but seems the downside of that would be the hot water might turn on before the cold.

I've got the dishwasher running right now, and when that's done I guess I'm going to try to figure out how to get a pro to look.
They're all different, but is there any kind of o-ring/gasket that gets seated that may be rotted or otherwise not in right? Not sure what the standard is for that.
Anything rubber like that was part of the cartridge itself.
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A_B wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:58 am Hmm. No. I've had a bad carburetor that has to be cleaned out but that doesn't down exactly like what you're dealing with. And not to be an asshole, but there is gas in it right? Cause I have definitely made that stupid mistake before and kicked myself. Hopefully you're not a total doofus like me, though.
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rass wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:29 pm Read that just after I got back from HD $60+ lighter, and was very careful installing the new one to stop as soon as the one component (ring) that gets screwed on wouldn’t budge to the slightest of hand tightening. Still a dribble.

I’m clearly such a dumbass that I can’t even figure out what I’m doing wrong.
Do you mean it's leaking a dribble or the flow is only a dribble? If it's flow check to see if you get both hot and cold. I feel like I had that issue when I did one and had it in backwards.

You can also adjust the mixing. Maybe it got bumped? https://support.deltafaucet.com/s/artic ... 8028366789
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rass wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:59 amI've got the dishwasher running right now, and when that's done I guess I'm going to try to figure out how to get a pro to look.
Not sure if you already have someone and its NJ so nothing is cheap, but we've had good experiences w/ Lesco Plumbing.
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testuser2 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:58 am
rass wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:29 pm Read that just after I got back from HD $60+ lighter, and was very careful installing the new one to stop as soon as the one component (ring) that gets screwed on wouldn’t budge to the slightest of hand tightening. Still a dribble.

I’m clearly such a dumbass that I can’t even figure out what I’m doing wrong.
Do you mean it's leaking a dribble or the flow is only a dribble? If it's flow check to see if you get both hot and cold. I feel like I had that issue when I did one and had it in backwards.

You can also adjust the mixing. Maybe it got bumped? https://support.deltafaucet.com/s/artic ... 8028366789
Flow is a dribble. When it's off, it's off (fixed the slow leak, yay!). And yeah I noodled with that. This morning I've even tried (A) putting the front/top (the part with that setting above, that connects to the handle) of the old cartridge on the back/bottom (the part that actually connects to the plumbing) of a new one and (B) turning it "upside down" and gotten no closer to a flow.
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rass wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:59 amI've got the dishwasher running right now, and when that's done I guess I'm going to try to figure out how to get a pro to look.
Not sure if you already have someone and its NJ so nothing is cheap, but we've had good experiences w/ Lesco Plumbing.
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rass wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:59 am Deck looks great DiS. But the leaves are really piling up. A bit of an eyesore.
Yeah....the raking is a never ending process around here in the fall.
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I stumped Delta, they insisted I had the wrong part and to get the older model cartridge. I tried it only because they promised to reimburse me, and no...

And now the GC is stumped, too. He took everything apart, looked at it, played around, and then took the parts to a supply house to get some advice.

I guess I feel better about my work but not out of the woods on this turning into an actual cost lots of money issue.

I'm wondering if the original contractor who we had do the BR redo back in 2011 or whenever it was did something really weird. Though I think it should be obvious by now, if so.
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rass wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:33 pmI guess I feel better about my work but not out of the woods on this turning into an actual cost lots of money issue.
This is the best. I've had two different projects where the expert who did it explicitly told me I would have fucked it up if I'd tried or kept going, so then I feel better about calling but its also $500+ gone.
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BTW Rass, I mean the shower itself, not the cartridge. When I screwed the plate thing that covers it all back onto the wall too tightly, I'd have a leak.
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DaveInSeattle wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:37 am
rass wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:59 am Deck looks great DiS. But the leaves are really piling up. A bit of an eyesore.
Yeah....the raking is a never ending process around here in the fall.
Spent most of Saturday on the leaves and my leaf pile is epic. We have 7-8 very large trees either in our yard or adjacent. Only 2 still have leaves left, but they are huge trees, so... 2 weeks from now I'll get up on the roof and clear that and the rest of the yard and be done with it.

What's REALLY fucking annoying this year are the acorns. Fucking fuckers.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:39 am
DaveInSeattle wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:37 am
rass wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:59 am Deck looks great DiS. But the leaves are really piling up. A bit of an eyesore.
Yeah....the raking is a never ending process around here in the fall.
Spent most of Saturday on the leaves and my leaf pile is epic. We have 7-8 very large trees either in our yard or adjacent. Only 2 still have leaves left, but they are huge trees, so... 2 weeks from now I'll get up on the roof and clear that and the rest of the yard and be done with it.

What's REALLY fucking annoying this year are the acorns. Fucking fuckers.
My first year in this house, my front yard was covered in acorns 6 inches high. Haven't had too many ever since, and no trees were removed on that side of the house. Completely forgot about that.
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There was an article in the Post about the acorns. Something about the drought conditions are something. I didn't read it out of protest!
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So... GC and his plumbing supply experts are stumped. Best we/they can figure is that the leaky faucet was due to the bad/old cartridge, but the reduction in water pressure was something else. And whatever that something else is, it got worse during the work to take everything apart and replace the cartridge. Debris or something else in the plumbing? Cannot get a good flow to the faucet or the shower as-is.

So demo might start as early as today to take out the portion of the shower wall from the diverter to the faucet and replace the diverter and anything else as needed. Lucked into finding almost a perfect match of tile in stock at HD. And cheap, so if we need to buy extra to cut them all to match the existing size, we will.
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Re: Home Repairs

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rass wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:50 am So... GC and his plumbing supply experts are stumped. Best we/they can figure is that the leaky faucet was due to the bad/old cartridge, but the reduction in water pressure was something else. And whatever that something else is, it got worse during the work to take everything apart and replace the cartridge. Debris or something else in the plumbing? Cannot get a good flow to the faucet or the shower as-is.

So demo might start as early as today to take out the portion of the shower wall from the diverter to the faucet and replace the diverter and anything else as needed. Lucked into finding almost a perfect match of tile in stock at HD. And cheap, so if we need to buy extra to cut them all to match the existing size, we will.
Come on, Rass! You should have demo'd the wall yourself to figure this one out. I used to be too afraid to try to do work on my own, but Youtube and general internet research has been fantastic. I wonder how big an impact that's had on professionals. I like trying to figure out how stuff works and most of the time, it's really simple once you see how it works. Plus I earn lots of points because my wife thinks it's sorcery. Her father is completely useless around the house, even when he was young. The man literally has never changed a light bulb. My MiL does some of that, but they called an electrician to change the lightbulb in a lamp because it wasn't the standard bulb she is used to. I was pissed they didn't call me as we live 15 minutes away. So she asked me to change an outdoor bulb that burned out approximately 45 years ago that they never got around to replacing. That thing was welded into place and they were afraid I'd break it.
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