The Swamp

Saw this today. Maybe it's a Vermonter that moved here a while ago. (Yes, that's an NRA sticker too.)

Obama joins the recent concerted anti-Warren push from wealthy Democratic centrists.

I really, really hope that Warren doesn’t let all this pressure push her into running as a conventional Dem. I don’t think she’s an Obama or Bill Clinton type who can win on the force of charisma while running on a bland platform. Rather, the centerpiece of her appeal is her boldness and willingness to speak truth to power. If she loses that edge, she’s a weak General Election candidate.

(All of the same also applies to Sanders but I’m less concerned about him because he’s long made it clear he DGAF about criticism from the Dem establishment.)

“What do we want?”
“Health care for all!”
“When do we want it?”
“Whenever the rich will allow us to without a fight!”

Itll be Biden. It's clearly headed that way to the detriment of everyone.

Its because I deleted my avatar.

According to that poll, Pete’s mostly gaining voters from Biden, Harris and Warren. The first two make sense, but Warren not so much. They’re really not similar at all on policy grounds. If those numbers are legit, then the recent attempts by corporatist Dems to make Warren seem “unelectable” is having a real effect.

Johnnie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:18 pm Its because I deleted my avatar.

The comments are sad to read.

mister d wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:39 am

Article on it here.

And, on Thursday, former Deadspinner Albert Burneko had some less than ideal thoughts on Pete and the media here.

Wow. So brave.

What a fuckhead.

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:39 am Article on it here.

The pic from that link looks like a phony Forrest Gump in the gospel church.

Marijuana. Still a gateway drug to out of touch shitheads like Joe Biden.

Andrew Yang: As president, I will establish a Department of the Attention Economy

Mr. $10,000 should write for the Onion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... nal&wpmk=1

Fun little exercise.

According to those questions/filters, I am a Buttedgedge - Yang guy.

Sanders
Yang
Booker/Warren

...

Steyer

Warren 9 --> Gabbard 1.

I guess I'm a bit surprised I had Warren 2 over Sanders, but me and Bern disagreed on the SCOTUS question and existing college debt.

Good thing I can't vote - Biden?

Yikes. I am getting old.

Pruitt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:22 am Good thing I can't vote - Biden?

Yikes. I am getting old.

I agreed with Biden on exactly zero of those questions. Surprisingly I got Booker first, then Warren #2 and Sanders t-3rd. But Booker has spent way too much time cozying up to finance for me to back him.

I actually took it again, pretending I was the guy who makes the Riddler's suits, and I got Gabbard

Pruitt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:22 am Good thing I can't vote - Biden?

Yikes. I am getting old.

You CENTRIST!!!!!

Johnnie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:09 am Marijuana. Still a gateway drug to out of touch shitheads like Joe Biden.

Loaded term meant to appease moderates and conservative voters. He's talking to OH, WI and PA when he said that.. IMO, of courxe.

I mean, a lot of the questions are, like... Whatever.

Do I think we should talk about changing the electoral college and increasing the number of justices on the SC? Sure, fine.

Do I think it's vital to health care reform to eliminate private insurance. Not really, but I'm listening.

A lot of this comes down to "do I think you are a reasonable human that isn't saddled with a lot shitty baggage and can't get past." Kind of tough to tease that out in a questionnaire, obvi.

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:00 pm I mean, a lot of the questions are, like... Whatever.

Do I think we should talk about changing the electoral college and increasing the number of justices on the SC? Sure, fine.

Do I think it's vital to health care reform to eliminate private insurance. Not really, but I'm listening.

A lot of this comes down to "do I think you are a reasonable human that isn't saddled with a lot shitty baggage and can't get past." Kind of tough to tease that out in a questionnaire, obvi.

I don't see how private insurance can be eliminated. Canada, which is the model Bernie raves about, is probably 50% private insurance. During the last election, the NDP proposed healthcare "from head to toe" and free pharmaceuticals, and they were considered insane. And that's from a starting position or already having healthcare.

Sanders, Warren, Mayor Pete. Gabbard holding up the rear.

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:00 pm I mean, a lot of the questions are, like... Whatever.

Do I think we should talk about changing the electoral college and increasing the number of justices on the SC? Sure, fine.

Do I think it's vital to health care reform to eliminate private insurance. Not really, but I'm listening.

A lot of this comes down to "do I think you are a reasonable human that isn't saddled with a lot shitty baggage and can't get past." Kind of tough to tease that out in a questionnaire, obvi.

Also, the questions chosen for surveys like this invariably affect the outcome. Had it asked about a wealth tax, financial regulations, Green New Deal or foreign policy (all of which are very important) I highly doubt that I would have ranked Booker first.

I took one of those in 2012 and I got Jill Stein.

Even my libertarian friends were like "WTF?"

I really feel like this was not a comprehensive analysis of who we should all vote for

I'm with you, but I don't know about the rest of these knuckleheads.

Office just down the road from tyler perry studios but ive passed twice today and wouldnt know anything is going on. A seemingly planted marine protester guy cause ive never seen him out there before but thats all. Expected some sort of police presence or delays but nothing. Guess its not really an open venue. Pretty big gates from its army base days.

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:46 pm Office just down the road from tyler perry studios but ive passed twice today and wouldnt know anything is going on. A seemingly planted marine protester guy cause ive never seen him out there before but thats all. Expected some sort of police presence or delays but nothing. Guess its not really an open venue. Pretty big gates from its army base days.

My wife informs me that Miss Universe will be at held at the Tyler Perry Studios on December 8th. Will there be any protests?

Cory Booker with a couple good one liners tonight:

This is great.

Johnnie wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:31 pm

Eh, there is a difference in saying we can't do it vs. saying its a bad idea to do it.

New Hampshire voters to Steyer: Make it stop!

The billionaire candidate is flooding New Hampshire with online ads. One reporter sat through 17 of them in an hour of YouTube viewing.

Pete said some dumb shit. AOC smacked him down.