The Swamp

Hmm shouldnt the Trump supporters know who Barry Sanders is and the Bernie supporters not?

Pruitt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:56 am

Just wait until noted socialist Michael Faulk runs in 2028.

Since Barry Sanders is black they're just gonna be pissed anyway. Garth should have worn a Stafford jersey.

I never really know what anyone is talking about anymore because it's all Tweets but yesterday...were there swampers in here actually defending the DNC in that NY Times story where all the delegates blatantly admitted they were conspiring against Bernie?

Nothing to worry about until there's something to worry about, J-Lo. Calm down and have a sparkling water or something!

The worst part of the Garth/Barry jersey is that it's tucked in.

lol, i know you guys don't watch this, but Hannity and De Blasio both trash Bloomberg. and then they disagree about Bernie of course.

[+] spoiler

There you go on de Blasio. There's absolutely no excuse for a self-styled progressive to go on Hannity's show for commentary.

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:49 am There you go on de Blasio. There's absolutely no excuse for a self-styled progressive to go on Hannity's show for commentary.

You just don’t like BdB because he celebrated the Red Sox 2018 title with John Henry & co.

Jerloma wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:14 am I never really know what anyone is talking about anymore because it's all Tweets but yesterday...were there swampers in here actually defending the DNC in that NY Times story where all the delegates blatantly admitted they were conspiring against Bernie?

No one was defending that bullshit. People were, to varying degrees, defending the existence of a moderate wing of the Democratic Party.

Jerloma wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:14 am I never really know what anyone is talking about anymore because it's all Tweets but yesterday...were there swampers in here actually defending the DNC in that NY Times story where all the delegates blatantly admitted they were conspiring against Bernie?

"conspiring"

"Democratic Leaders (Independently But All In the Same Way and Towards the Same End) Willing to Risk Party Damage to Stop Bernie Sanders" - NY Times

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:32 pm "Democratic Leaders (Independently But All In the Same Way and Towards the Same End) Willing to Risk Party Damage to Stop Bernie Sanders" - NY Times

To me, "conspiring" means something nefarious. It's not really nefarious for Democratic party leaders to work to prevent the nomination of someone who isn't a Democrat and who they believe is less likely to win in November.

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:19 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:32 pm "Democratic Leaders (Independently But All In the Same Way and Towards the Same End) Willing to Risk Party Damage to Stop Bernie Sanders" - NY Times

To me, "conspiring" means something nefarious. It's not really nefarious for Democratic party leaders to work to prevent the nomination of someone who isn't a Democrat and who they believe is less likely to win in November.

Especially if you're talking about situation where Sanders and Candidate XYZ are roughly neck and neck. If Sanders is far and away ahead of the rest of the field, there's no excuse to try and stack the deck against him and it will in fact be extremely counter-productive. I think most reasonable people understand the difference between the former and latter scenario even if most Sanders loyalists won't/don't.

Where does "inserts Chris Coons into a head to head race when all the current candidates fade away" fall? Bullshit or fair play?

Regardless of what a few random people said to the New York Times, it's not a realistic scenario and again I think most reasonable people understand that.

Sooo ... bullshit?

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:55 pm Sooo ... bullshit?

If you're saying the people who floated that to the NYT are full of shit or bullshit, then yes I agree.

I'm saying humor me and say the create a situation where a Dem loyalist is added later on. Bullshit or fair play?

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:10 pm I'm saying humor me and say the create a situation where a Dem loyalist is added later on. Bullshit or fair play?

It’s absolutely bullshit and will (deservedly) cost the Dems the election if they do it.

Is it Hillary?

Ha. If you want to see me go back on my "I'm sure I'll show up for the Dem no matter what" stance, that'll do it.

TEH BROS AND BOTS!

Bernie Bots are completely ridiculous to think corporate media has a bias.

Biden's speech after this victory was the most articulate and passionate I've seen him in this campaign. He looked viable as a candidate in that moment.

It's still looking rough for him going into Tuesday, but this was as ideal an outcome as he could have hoped to achieve.

degenerasian wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:43 pm Biden's speech after this victory was the most articulate and passionate I've seen him in this campaign. He looked viable as a candidate in that moment.

It's still looking rough for him going into Tuesday, but this was as ideal an outcome as he could have hoped to achieve.

Also Warren went after Sanders in her speech tonight. I think she’s running to be Biden’s VP, which is disappointing.

Is Warren willing to be anyone's VP?

degenerasian wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:32 pm Is Warren willing to be anyone's VP?

She hasn’t gotten any delegates since Iowa and the Super Tuesday polling does not look good for her, at all. So her path to victory looks pretty nonexistent. The fact that her criticism is focused on Bloomberg and Sanders, and not Biden, makes me suspect that she’s angling for his VP spot. And I’m honestly not sure he could finish a term. The cognitive decline is real.

So that Clyburn endorsement was vital. Biden win big.

Luckily he doesn't get to build on that momentum much and Bernie should come out on top everywhere after Super Tuesday.

Looking forward to when Klobmentum finally goes the fuck home, but I suspect she'll try to stick around to Minnesota despite Bernie beating her there.

That's a lot.

"You see, potato salad is excellent. But what is it usually missing? Sweetness. You know what packs a lot of sweetness into a small bite? Raisins. And I'm not saying anyone should be doctrinaire about that unless they've actually experienced it."

Huzzah.

He’s gonna endorse Biden right? To get veep?

(Pence having time debate a gay guy would be great tv)

This is getting interesting.

Is this the soonest an Iowa (co)winner has exited?

It’s lining up for Bernie vs Biden and the cries of anguish from Bernie supporters while Warren stays in the race are going to be sweet sweet nectar.

I'm surprised Steyer and Buttigieg didn't at least wait until the Super Tuesday results to quit.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:01 pm I'm surprised Steyer and Buttigieg didn't at least wait until the Super Tuesday results to quit.

They want their votes and percentages to go to Biden.