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Blind loyalty to a cult is a hell of a drug.tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:24 pm For fuckssake, just admit it was a stupid fucking thing to have Gronkowski back there for a play in which there was no fucking way it was coming down to a jump ball in the end zone and that the only way that Miami was scoring was on a lateral and run. Jesus Christ.
My mini-rant wasn't aimed at you, Romero.EdRomero wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:08 pm I already said it was stupid but the defense I read is that Tannehill has thrown it 65 yards before (not sure if he could with a bad ankle) and the hail Mary has a higher success rate than the hook and lateral. He should have adjusted for having a QB throwing off a bad foot and having a broken down te.
The entire game was frustrating so it was a fitting ending.
Yeah. Fuck them all (except for my daughter who is a big time Pats fan).Rams Fanny wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:20 pmThis statement should never be uttered by a rational person, or perhaps anyone.
Do coaches change out guys in personnel groupings on the fly like that? Would you even want them to? Seems clear they weren't prepared enough for that situation and should have had multiple packages ready to go depending on the field position for a hail Mary but I wouldn't want individual coaches randomly running guys on and off to try and compensate for something that should have been installed 4 months ago.tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:24 pm For fuckssake, just admit it was a stupid fucking thing to have Gronkowski back there for a play in which there was no fucking way it was coming down to a jump ball in the end zone and that the only way that Miami was scoring was on a lateral and run. Jesus Christ.
A dime defense that doesn’t include Gronkowski...pretty sure that was already in place...HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:12 pmDo coaches change out guys in personnel groupings on the fly like that? Would you even want them to? Seems clear they weren't prepared enough for that situation and should have had multiple packages ready to go depending on the field position for a hail Mary but I wouldn't want individual coaches randomly running guys on and off to try and compensate for something that should have been installed 4 months ago.tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:24 pm For fuckssake, just admit it was a stupid fucking thing to have Gronkowski back there for a play in which there was no fucking way it was coming down to a jump ball in the end zone and that the only way that Miami was scoring was on a lateral and run. Jesus Christ.
What about lawyers in the greater Boston area?Rams Fanny wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:20 pmThis statement should never be uttered by a rational person, or perhaps anyone.
This is a bad take. Bad. I mean, would the defensive backs who play the position professionally be able to handle a slight change to the formations they play every snap during the game?!?!?!? Gosh, I doubt it.HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:31 pm Really don't know. So much football is like that. I don't think you can play dime there. You want another DB or safety in there with the last play team but they like the big jumper. Can you just change out a role without making it worse in the secondary. Mccourty knows what he's doing so maybe not that hard to adjust on the fly but I don't think theres a ton of sandlot going on in the NFL. Even less in the secondary where you get beat on breakdowns as much as speed or technique.
Well, he's an NFL QB and even the weak armed ones can throw 65+ yards. Arm strength in the NFL comes down to velocity over long distances, not distance itself.tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:07 pm Tannehill has no chance to throw that 70 yards. He isn’t Rodgers or Mahomes. It’s okay to admit that what belichick did this time was fucking dumb as shit. Some other coach does that and the entire world is still laughing and pointing fingers. That was insanely dumb from the Pats’ coaching staff.
It is so immature.
I think a lot of it is that when, mistakes are made, they are sometimes defended as though the person making the mistake (in this case Belichick, but other times Brady) is infallible. This is also followed up by aggressive rebuttals when the person who made the mistake performs well in the next game. An example is when there is a reasoned, well-written article talking about Brady's level of play dropping, but fans come with "See?" when he posts a great stat line against a shitty defense in the next game with lots of yards after catch by his receivers. Sorry, I read/follow Mike Tanier on Twitter.
I didn't realize that Josh Gordon was their primary safety, which is what the argument is.
HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:31 pm Really don't know. So much football is like that. I don't think you can play dime there. You want another DB or safety in there with the last play team but they like the big jumper. Can you just change out a role without making it worse in the secondary. Mccourty knows what he's doing so maybe not that hard to adjust on the fly but I don't think theres a ton of sandlot going on in the NFL. Even less in the secondary where you get beat on breakdowns as much as speed or technique.
When? This year? He's hella banged up. I refuse to buy that he was going to heave that from his 25 or so to the end zone. That is beyond low probability. Bullshit.Gunpowder wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:36 amWell, he's an NFL QB and even the weak armed ones can throw 65+ yards. Arm strength in the NFL comes down to velocity over long distances, not distance itself.tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:07 pm Tannehill has no chance to throw that 70 yards. He isn’t Rodgers or Mahomes. It’s okay to admit that what belichick did this time was fucking dumb as shit. Some other coach does that and the entire world is still laughing and pointing fingers. That was insanely dumb from the Pats’ coaching staff.
Here he is throwing damn near 70 yards in the air without really stepping into it and getting hit as he throws (at 0:50):
How this wasn't evident years ago is beyond me. Watching him live (when the Saints went up to Minnesota) is even more staggering in the sheer amount of wide open guys downfield that he doesn't see.
Probably not but if he can get it to the 5 from closer to the 30, it could be tipped into the end zone. That's actually how most teams play that, they try to tip it back for a guy behind the scrum.tennbengal wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:43 amWhen? This year? He's hella banged up. I refuse to buy that he was going to heave that from his 25 or so to the end zone. That is beyond low probability. Bullshit.Gunpowder wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:36 amWell, he's an NFL QB and even the weak armed ones can throw 65+ yards. Arm strength in the NFL comes down to velocity over long distances, not distance itself.tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:07 pm Tannehill has no chance to throw that 70 yards. He isn’t Rodgers or Mahomes. It’s okay to admit that what belichick did this time was fucking dumb as shit. Some other coach does that and the entire world is still laughing and pointing fingers. That was insanely dumb from the Pats’ coaching staff.
Here he is throwing damn near 70 yards in the air without really stepping into it and getting hit as he throws (at 0:50):
DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:39 amI think a lot of it is that when, mistakes are made, they are sometimes defended as though the person making the mistake (in this case Belichick, but other times Brady) is infallible. This is also followed up by aggressive rebuttals when the person who made the mistake performs well in the next game. An example is when there is a reasoned, well-written article talking about Brady's level of play dropping, but fans come with "See?" when he posts a great stat line against a shitty defense in the next game with lots of yards after catch by his receivers. Sorry, I read/follow Mike Tanier on Twitter.
FWIW, Here's what he said. Read the replies if you want to enjoy Patriot fans calling Belichick a moron. For all the crap you guys give Patriot fans (like me) for always defending him, the spoiled Patriot fan who thinks Belichick has cost Tom Brady 15 Super Bowls annoys me much more (especially since the local media has built an industry off of this mindset).Gunpowder wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:44 amProbably not but if he can get it to the 5 from closer to the 30, it could be tipped into the end zone. That's actually how most teams play that, they try to tip it back for a guy behind the scrum.tennbengal wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:43 amWhen? This year? He's hella banged up. I refuse to buy that he was going to heave that from his 25 or so to the end zone. That is beyond low probability. Bullshit.Gunpowder wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:36 amWell, he's an NFL QB and even the weak armed ones can throw 65+ yards. Arm strength in the NFL comes down to velocity over long distances, not distance itself.tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:07 pm Tannehill has no chance to throw that 70 yards. He isn’t Rodgers or Mahomes. It’s okay to admit that what belichick did this time was fucking dumb as shit. Some other coach does that and the entire world is still laughing and pointing fingers. That was insanely dumb from the Pats’ coaching staff.
Here he is throwing damn near 70 yards in the air without really stepping into it and getting hit as he throws (at 0:50):
EDIT: You're probably right. I thought it was a bit closer than that. But I still maintain that just about every NFL starter can throw close to 65+ yards.