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Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:30 pm
by brian
Honestly I thought about it but only because I figured at that insane a price there might be value. But didn’t pull the trigger.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:41 pm
by brian
If it was anyone other than Verlander starting for Houston I might have done it. Hard to bet against that guy. For me.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 5:29 am
by tennbengal
brian wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:41 pm
If it was anyone other than Verlander starting for Houston I might have done it. Hard to bet against that guy. For me.
He was on the mound when the Orioles won that game where they were +420.
For shits and grins one of the attorneys I work with parlayed that one with one other whenever day that was a few weeks back and ended up with a $3600 payout on a $100 or so dollar bet, apparently.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:27 am
by A_B
tennbengal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 5:29 am
brian wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:41 pm
If it was anyone other than Verlander starting for Houston I might have done it. Hard to bet against that guy. For me.
He was on the mound when the Orioles won that game where they were +420.
For shits and grins one of the attorneys I work with parlayed that one with one other whenever day that was a few weeks back and ended up with a $3600 payout on a $100 or so dollar bet, apparently.
VERLANDER BETS ON BASEBALL!
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:44 am
by rass
A_B wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:33 pm
You are not allowed to experience tigers joy at this point in the season. But surely you put ten buuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks on your boys.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:51 am
by brian
Tigers are almost as big of an underdog for today's game as well (+440 at South Point).
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:49 pm
by A_B
There is no LLwS thread but this dude for Louisiana that is 13-19 this tournament and hit a grand slam has a sweet swing. Obviously hard to project twelve year olds but man he is so on plane all the time.
ETA: Roussel or something similar.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:46 pm
by Rams Fanny
Did it not occur to anybody at MLB to test how this weekend's white uniforms would look on TV at least at night? From a distance they are unreadable which defeats the purpose. Also they have a strange gray/pinkish hue due to lights. I can't imagine they will be much better in the daytime.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:57 pm
by brian
It’s a good idea executed poorly which is MLB in microcosm.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:22 pm
by degenerasian
The white ones look like a blank coloring book someone forgot to draw in, and the black ones look like someone dressing up as a thief late at night.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:48 pm
by Rams Fanny
It also varies game to game whether the home team is wearing white which is frustrating watching multiple games.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 2:25 pm
by sancarlos
Iconic Yankees and Dodger uniforms scrapped in favor of something from beer league softball. Not a fan.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:49 pm
by Rex
The Royals are worth $1 billion?
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:41 pm
by Rams Fanny
Rex wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:49 pm
The Royals are worth $1 billion?
Someone wants to buy the Royals?
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:37 pm
by brian
The Kansas City Royals? The one in Missouri?
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:15 pm
by A_B
Wait what. One trillion?
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:15 pm
by A_B
sancarlos wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 2:25 pm
Iconic Yankees and Dodger uniforms scrapped in favor of something from beer league softball. Not a fan.
Spy vs spy weekend was terrible.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:42 pm
by mister d
Rex wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:49 pm
The Royals are worth $1 billion?
Revenue sharing alone was estimated at >$200MM in 2018.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:52 pm
by sancarlos
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:42 pm
Revenue sharing alone was estimated at >$200MM in 2018.
Yeah, but... you're a finance guy. You know that revenue does not necessarily equal equity value.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:15 pm
by teeteebee
sancarlos wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:52 pm
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:42 pm
Revenue sharing alone was estimated at >$200MM in 2018.
Yeah, but... you're a finance guy. You know that revenue does not necessarily equal equity value.
Depends upon how they are applying the multiple in their model. Top line or bottom.
Finite # of teams.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozania ... lues-2018/
Slightly dated article but avg team value was $1.645b. I wouldn’t buy a team in KC but someone will. And they’ll pay a billion or more.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:16 pm
by mister d
I imagine there are very few investments where you’re all but promised 2x your purchase price over a decade even if you do everything else you can to fail. Just a continuation of why no big 3 will ever show their books.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:21 pm
by teeteebee
https://www.forbes.com/teams/kansas-city-royals/
Clicked through a few links from the article above to get to the 2019 update and ultimately the team valuation detail page.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:25 pm
by teeteebee
12.5% CAGR based on 2000 purchase at $96m and a 2020 exit at $1b.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:26 pm
by teeteebee
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:16 pm
I imagine there are very few investments where you’re all but promised 2x your purchase price over a decade even if you do everything else you can to fail. Just a continuation of why no big 3 will ever show their books.
How about ten-fold over two decades?
But let’s be honest, this thing isn’t worth $10b in 20 years.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:47 pm
by brian
Everyone who bought at the top of a bubble thought they were a genius.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:36 am
by Giff
Wonder if Yahoo! is talking about that story?
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:08 pm
by A_B
Why again does the Big Hurt get excluded from most steroid discussion? That's the exact same body type as Bonds had, basically.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:13 pm
by Giff
It's especially infuriating when one of your top 2 favorite players of all-time is Jeff Bagwell.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:14 pm
by Joe K
Thomas got a football scholarship to Auburn* and was huge for his entire career. Bonds was skinny for years before he put on like 50 pounds of muscle.
*Of course, the fact that Thomas was part of an SEC football program certainly helps AB’s point.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:16 pm
by govmentchedda
Early Bonds was way skinnier than Big Hurt.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:16 pm
by A_B
I get that he's naturally a bigger guy, but by the end he sure looked bigger in the same ways bonds looked bigger.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:39 pm
by EnochRoot
A_B wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:16 pm
I get that he's naturally a bigger guy, but by the end he sure looked bigger in the same ways bonds looked bigger.
Thomas was always a hulking figure though. Bonds looked wiry when he was the game's best OF in Pittsburgh. Then he had his "hold my beer" moment when he was forced to pay attention to Sosa and McGwire's great 1998 PED-infused HR race.
Maybe Thomas was using PEDs then and was just smart enough to stay out of the Mitchell Report or do business with the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative. But he was always a massive guy.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:39 pm
by mister d
And only one of them still hawks "supplements".
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:47 pm
by A_B
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:39 pm
A_B wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:16 pm
I get that he's naturally a bigger guy, but by the end he sure looked bigger in the same ways bonds looked bigger.
Thomas was always a hulking figure though. Bonds looked wiry when he was the game's best OF in Pittsburgh. Then he had his "hold my beer" moment when he was forced to pay attention to Sosa and McGwire's great 1998 PED-infused HR race.
Maybe Thomas was using PEDs then and was just smart enough to stay out of the Mitchell Report or do business with the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative. But he was always a massive guy.
Did you watch the video? He's tall, but I wouldn't say hulking by any stretch.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:55 pm
by EnochRoot
A_B wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:47 pm
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:39 pm
A_B wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:16 pm
I get that he's naturally a bigger guy, but by the end he sure looked bigger in the same ways bonds looked bigger.
Thomas was always a hulking figure though. Bonds looked wiry when he was the game's best OF in Pittsburgh. Then he had his "hold my beer" moment when he was forced to pay attention to Sosa and McGwire's great 1998 PED-infused HR race.
Maybe Thomas was using PEDs then and was just smart enough to stay out of the Mitchell Report or do business with the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative. But he was always a massive guy.
Did you watch the video? He's tall, but I wouldn't say hulking by any stretch.
Maybe I worded it incorrectly. Thomas was built ready for the additional muscle that would make him into the Big Hurt. You can see it in his chest and shoulders in that video.
Bonds had a much smaller frame. His chest and shoulders looked closer to that of well, a fleet-footed outfielder than a linebacker.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:52 pm
by degenerasian
Hes like Dave Winfield big.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:45 pm
by brian
Skaggs autopsy came in and he ODed on fentanyl and oxy.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:58 pm
by EnochRoot
brian wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:45 pm
Skaggs autopsy came in and he ODed on fentanyl and oxy.
And his parents are alleging it was an Angels employee that was supplying him the drugs.
Oh, and the Coroner called the drug overdose “accidental”.
Glad he cleared that up for us.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:21 pm
by mister d
If this is a trainer just handing shit out, go after them. But if this is someone who is buying for the group, be it a clubbie or another pitcher or something, ruining them is bullshit.
Re: MLB Regular Season 2019
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:58 pm
by sancarlos
mister d wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:21 pm
If this is a trainer just handing shit out, go after them. But if this is someone who is buying for the group, be it a clubbie or another pitcher or something, ruining them is bullshit.
I agree with that. I remember when Billy Martin's widow went after his drinking buddy for all he was worth when Martin died in their drunken crash. Martin was an inveterate alcoholic and certainly wasn't forced to join his friend in the truck.