tennbengal wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 11:56 am
That’s insane. Not that you would pay it, but the cost.
The scary part is that once they've done it to one leg, there is a significant chance they'll also do it to the other leg. She was 9 when she hurt her leg. Now, she'll be 11 in August. I really really hope she doesn't hurt the other leg, because at some point, we wouldn't do the surgery.
She's doing great now, but we take care not to let her sprint. So, no more trips to the ocean, where she loved to run herself ragged.
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 1:23 pm
by Pruitt
Poor thing.
All good thoughts for her.
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 2:58 pm
by Brontoburglar
Our vet does ACL surgeries and they quoted us $1500-2K today and said if we went to a "specialist" that it would be between $3500-$4000. I like our vet and I'd rather her get the money than someone else I don't know and the fact that it's considerably cheaper is even better.
I'm fully expecting it to be closer to the $2K number (which I had in my head going into this appointment this morning) so I'm mentally prepared for that. I would not have been mentally prepared for $8-9K.
Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:47 am
yeah those treats may be worth trying. I can't see her acquiescing to a thundershirt. but that may also be worth a try because I would like to sleep
got her to go outside just now after the rain stopped and then she immediately tweaked her back left leg that bothers her so she still hasn't peed. she's got a hell of a bladder
1. dog went 23ish hours between pees yesterday because of the rain. super impressive
2. dog couldn't put any weight on her leg the rest of the day and this morning so
3. we went to the vet and they suspect a torn ACL. anti-inflammatories for two weeks and then x-rays to confirm for a potential surgery
4. I at least got to ask about the thundershirt and other anxiety issues while I was there
5. my vet bill was $69 today
I think I discussed this upthread, but my doggo blew out her ACL and tore her meniscus right at the end of December, 2017, with surgery in early January, 2018. Total cost of surgery, drugs, x-rays and rehab, IIRC, was around $8-9k, and that is after insurance paid some of it.
ETA: Wife corrects me that after insurance recovery, it was a bit less...
Wait ... $8-9K for one ACL repair surgery?
Last year our dog blew out both ... at the same time. I think we paid around $6K for the two surgeries.
Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:47 am
yeah those treats may be worth trying. I can't see her acquiescing to a thundershirt. but that may also be worth a try because I would like to sleep
got her to go outside just now after the rain stopped and then she immediately tweaked her back left leg that bothers her so she still hasn't peed. she's got a hell of a bladder
1. dog went 23ish hours between pees yesterday because of the rain. super impressive
2. dog couldn't put any weight on her leg the rest of the day and this morning so
3. we went to the vet and they suspect a torn ACL. anti-inflammatories for two weeks and then x-rays to confirm for a potential surgery
4. I at least got to ask about the thundershirt and other anxiety issues while I was there
5. my vet bill was $69 today
I think I discussed this upthread, but my doggo blew out her ACL and tore her meniscus right at the end of December, 2017, with surgery in early January, 2018. Total cost of surgery, drugs, x-rays and rehab, IIRC, was around $8-9k, and that is after insurance paid some of it.
ETA: Wife corrects me that after insurance recovery, it was a bit less...
Wait ... $8-9K for one ACL repair surgery?
Last year our dog blew out both ... at the same time. I think we paid around $6K for the two surgeries.
Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:47 am
yeah those treats may be worth trying. I can't see her acquiescing to a thundershirt. but that may also be worth a try because I would like to sleep
got her to go outside just now after the rain stopped and then she immediately tweaked her back left leg that bothers her so she still hasn't peed. she's got a hell of a bladder
1. dog went 23ish hours between pees yesterday because of the rain. super impressive
2. dog couldn't put any weight on her leg the rest of the day and this morning so
3. we went to the vet and they suspect a torn ACL. anti-inflammatories for two weeks and then x-rays to confirm for a potential surgery
4. I at least got to ask about the thundershirt and other anxiety issues while I was there
5. my vet bill was $69 today
I think I discussed this upthread, but my doggo blew out her ACL and tore her meniscus right at the end of December, 2017, with surgery in early January, 2018. Total cost of surgery, drugs, x-rays and rehab, IIRC, was around $8-9k, and that is after insurance paid some of it.
ETA: Wife corrects me that after insurance recovery, it was a bit less...
Wait ... $8-9K for one ACL repair surgery?
Last year our dog blew out both ... at the same time. I think we paid around $6K for the two surgeries.
I should note that there is a completely different procedure recommended nowadays for bigger/heavier dogs. It costs a lot more than the traditional route, but with a much lower likelihood of recurrence. So we went that route. I’m guessing you were able to go the other route.
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 4:19 pm
by Brontoburglar
how heavy/big is your dog? Pen weighed in at 52 lbs today
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 4:21 pm
by sancarlos
Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 4:19 pm
how heavy/big is your dog? Pen weighed in at 52 lbs today
Mine is 55 - so essentially the same.
Also, the price might be a function somewhat to where you live.
Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:47 am
yeah those treats may be worth trying. I can't see her acquiescing to a thundershirt. but that may also be worth a try because I would like to sleep
got her to go outside just now after the rain stopped and then she immediately tweaked her back left leg that bothers her so she still hasn't peed. she's got a hell of a bladder
1. dog went 23ish hours between pees yesterday because of the rain. super impressive
2. dog couldn't put any weight on her leg the rest of the day and this morning so
3. we went to the vet and they suspect a torn ACL. anti-inflammatories for two weeks and then x-rays to confirm for a potential surgery
4. I at least got to ask about the thundershirt and other anxiety issues while I was there
5. my vet bill was $69 today
I think I discussed this upthread, but my doggo blew out her ACL and tore her meniscus right at the end of December, 2017, with surgery in early January, 2018. Total cost of surgery, drugs, x-rays and rehab, IIRC, was around $8-9k, and that is after insurance paid some of it.
ETA: Wife corrects me that after insurance recovery, it was a bit less...
Wait ... $8-9K for one ACL repair surgery?
Last year our dog blew out both ... at the same time. I think we paid around $6K for the two surgeries.
I should note that there is a completely different procedure recommended nowadays for bigger/heavier dogs. It costs a lot more than the traditional route, but with a much lower likelihood of recurrence. So we went that route. I’m guessing you were able to go the other route.
I don't really know what procedure they used. FWIW, my dog was 80 pounds at the time of surgery (they made us cut back on his food so he'd lose weight. Amazing how effective that is).
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 7:55 pm
by Pruitt
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 6:51 pm
by Brontoburglar
Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 2:58 pm
Our vet does ACL surgeries and they quoted us $1500-2K today and said if we went to a "specialist" that it would be between $3500-$4000. I like our vet and I'd rather her get the money than someone else I don't know and the fact that it's considerably cheaper is even better.
I'm fully expecting it to be closer to the $2K number (which I had in my head going into this appointment this morning) so I'm mentally prepared for that. I would not have been mentally prepared for $8-9K.
surgery is scheduled! but not until June 13 as the doc is on maternity leave so it's her first day back. so Pen is on pain pills until then and we're having to figure out how to build a ramp at both my house and my parents' house so she doesn't have to navigate steps to go outside.
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 7:15 pm
by A_B
You people are nuts.
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:21 am
by Brontoburglar
nuts to not want the dog to re-tear her ACL and do the whole thing over again? (she can't use stairs for four weeks post-op)
All of the money I saved by not having expensive pet operations!
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:15 pm
by A_B
I didn’t mean to be an asshole. I just grew up where dogs and cats just disappeared. They sure as shit didn’t have acl injuries. I have a cat and a lizard I love but never have had to spend more than 150 bucks on the cat and the lizards housing has been more than the lizard himself. I get that dogs become family so I’m sorry for pissing off you guys. It’s your money and you can do what you want. My bad.
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 6:52 am
by bfj
A_B wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 7:15 pm
You people are nuts.
Back away slowly. No sudden movements.
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 7:25 am
by Mulligan
I had a lab that tore one ACL before the age of one and then tore her other one the following year. The vet said the surgeries where a minimum of $1,500 per knee and about a 50% chance they would hold. I said she will limp. We kept her on supplements and kept her off steps as much as we could. She made it to 14 years and 11 months and would play fetch till she dropped from exhaustion.
Got a text this morning, neighbor had to put down the best dog that ever lived. My daughter is going to be devastated. For years, she has been periodically on the verge of tears saying she doesn't want Milo to die. He was 16, and had a couple health scares over the past 2 years, so this isn't at all a surprise, but this one hit me harder than I expected.
The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:53 am
I found some old pictures of why I love our neighbors dog. My daughter always loved dogs, but was a bit afraid of them. She would ask to pet dogs, then usually back away and chicken out when owners let her. Milo fixed that problem. We spent a couple nights at our neighbors house during the infamous October snowstorm when we lost power for 10 days, and they had a generator. My daughter was 3, I think. A couple days into our stay, I went downstairs and saw my daughter taking a nap, laying on top of Milo, who was curled up, with his head on her cheek. Wish I had a picture of that. But this was from 5 years ago, when I pet sat for them. She was so proud to hold Milo's leash when we took him for a walk.
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:08 pm
by Pruitt
Oh that's terrible.
Why can't dogs live to be 40?
It just suddenly got so dusty in here
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:10 pm
by rass
RIP Milo. Good boy.
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:29 pm
by sancarlos
Sorry, man.
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:29 am
by Giff
That really sucks, buddy.
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:45 am
by mister d
Hate this fucking thread.
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:13 am
by Giff
If it helps, my sister recently signed a lease at a new place in Santa Cruz and the landlord wanted to assurances their dog was friendly. So my sister showed him a video of my three-year-old walking him last summer and showed how patient he was with her, and he was sold.
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:48 am
by The Sybian
mister d wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 9:45 am
Hate this fucking thread.
I'm always afraid to open this thread, but the possibility of puppy pics keeps me coming back. My neighbor just called me to apologize, as she had a "last day" planned, and wanted me and my daughter there, but the situation didn't allow for it. I'll spare most of the details, as their 10 year old daughter walked into a really bad scene. They aren't sure what happened, but the vet thinks Milo had a seizure, and their extremely submissive 3yo German Shepherd mix freaked out, trying to pull him to safety or wake him up. The submissive pup is still shaken up and buries her head at the mention of Milo's name. She just posted a bunch of pics on FB that are choking me up. Mostly Milo with their daughter through the years, Milo with a huge smile as she has him dressed in costumes, giving him a medical exam, painting his toe nails... When the daughter was 2 or 3, she called Miloto the kitchen, and he new exactly what she wanted. He laid down in front of the kitchen counter, she stood on him so she could reach the cookie jar, while he smiled at her with a look of pride. They clearly had this routine down, and he happily helped.
mister d wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 9:45 am
Hate this fucking thread.
I'm always afraid to open this thread, but the possibility of puppy pics keeps me coming back. My neighbor just called me to apologize, as she had a "last day" planned, and wanted me and my daughter there, but the situation didn't allow for it. I'll spare most of the details, as their 10 year old daughter walked into a really bad scene. They aren't sure what happened, but the vet thinks Milo had a seizure, and their extremely submissive 3yo German Shepherd mix freaked out, trying to pull him to safety or wake him up. The submissive pup is still shaken up and buries her head at the mention of Milo's name. She just posted a bunch of pics on FB that are choking me up. Mostly Milo with their daughter through the years, Milo with a huge smile as she has him dressed in costumes, giving him a medical exam, painting his toe nails... When the daughter was 2 or 3, she called Miloto the kitchen, and he new exactly what she wanted. He laid down in front of the kitchen counter, she stood on him so she could reach the cookie jar, while he smiled at her with a look of pride. They clearly had this routine down, and he happily helped.
Ugh. That must be terrible to go through.
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 12:40 pm
by mister d
The Sybian wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 10:48 amI'll spare most of the details, as their 10 year old daughter walked into a really bad scene.
This is why, even though we still feel guilty Harper was at a border and not at home, I wouldn't change it. Based on the timing, everything would have happened in front of our then 3.5 year old in the living room and I can't imagine the effect that could have had.
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 4:59 pm
by brian
Not a puppy, but we just adopted an 11-year-old pit/lab mix. He's a big, good boy.
The shelter called him Houston and I think we'll stick with that since he answers to it and it's a good name for a dog.
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 5:17 pm
by rass
Pictures mofo, now.
Congrats!
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 5:22 pm
by brian
Literally just got him home, so this is one of the only ones we've taken so far.
Honestly, he's probably a little bigger than I would want, but he had been in the shelter for about a year and just hate to see good dogs sit in there until they die, so we'll give him a good home for as long as he has left. He really is a super friendly dog.
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 6:15 pm
by Steve of phpBB
brian wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 5:22 pm
Literally just got him home, so this is one of the only ones we've taken so far.
Honestly, he's probably a little bigger than I would want, but he had been in the shelter for about a year and just hate to see good dogs sit in there until they die, so we'll give him a good home for as long as he has left. He really is a super friendly dog.
I hope you weren't planning on sitting on the couch, Brian. There's no room for you.
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 6:17 pm
by rass
Aw yeah Houston. What a great looking dog.
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 8:40 pm
by BSF21
Oh man, this stuff just fills my heart. We really hope we can start to foster/adopt senior dogs at some point. Congrats Brian, it’s a really noble cause and he looks like just the best boy. More pictures frequently!
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 9:06 pm
by The Sybian
Congrats, Brian. He looks like an awesome dog. And his tongue puts Gene Simmons to shame!
Re: Man's Best Friend
Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 9:43 pm
by brian
The Sybian wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 9:06 pm
Congrats, Brian. He looks like an awesome dog. And his tongue puts Gene Simmons to shame!
Yeah it’s a specimen isn’t it? I feel like this doug is gonna accidentally break some shit in our house (which is relatively dog-proof) but that’s OK.
